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Redirects for discussion (RfD) is the place where potentially problematic redirects are discussed. Items usually stay listed for a week or so, after which they are deleted, kept, or retargeted.

  • If you want to replace an unprotected redirect with an article, do not list it here. Turning redirects into articles is wholly encouraged. Be bold!
  • If you want to move a page but a redirect is in the way, do not list it here. For non-controversial cases, place a technical request; if a discussion is required, then start a requested move.
  • If you think a redirect points to the wrong target article, this is a good place to discuss what should be the proper target.
  • Redirects should not be deleted just because they have no incoming links. Please do not use this as the only reason to delete a redirect. However, redirects that do have incoming links are sometimes deleted, so that is not a sufficient condition for keeping. (See § When should we delete a redirect? for more information.)

Please do not unilaterally rename or change the target of a redirect while it is under discussion. This adds unnecessary complication to the discussion for participants and closers.

Before listing a redirect for discussion[edit]

Please be aware of these general policies, which apply here as elsewhere:

The guiding principles of RfD[edit]

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  • The purpose of a good redirect is to eliminate the possibility that readers will find themselves staring blankly at "Search results 1–10 out of 378" instead of the article they were looking for. If someone could plausibly enter the redirect's name when searching for the target article, it's a good redirect.
  • Redirects are cheap. They take up little storage space and use very little bandwidth. It doesn't really hurt things if there are a few of them scattered around. On the flip side, deleting redirects is also cheap because recording the deletion takes up little storage space and uses very little bandwidth. There is no harm in deleting problematic redirects.
  • If a good-faith RfD nomination proposes to delete a redirect and has no discussion after at least 7 days, the default result is delete.
  • Redirects nominated in contravention of Wikipedia:Redirect will be speedily kept.
  • RfD can also serve as a central discussion forum for debates about which page a redirect should target. In cases where retargeting the redirect could be considered controversial, it is advisable to leave a notice on the talk page of the redirect's current target page or the proposed target page to refer readers to the redirect's nomination to allow input and help form consensus for the redirect's target.
  • Requests for deletion of redirects from one page's talk page to another's do not need to be listed here. Anyone can remove the redirect by blanking the page. The G6 criterion for speedy deletion may be appropriate.
  • In discussions, always ask yourself whether or not a redirect would be helpful to the reader.

When should we delete a redirect?[edit]


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Further information: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Common outcomes and Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving over a redirect

The major reasons why deletion of redirects is harmful are:

  • a redirect may contain non-trivial edit history;
  • if a redirect is reasonably old (or is the result of moving a page that has been there for quite some time), then it is possible that its deletion will break incoming links (such links coming from older revisions of Wikipedia pages, from edit summaries, from other Wikimedia projects or from elsewhere on the internet, do not show up in "What links here").

Therefore consider the deletion only of either harmful redirects or of recent ones.

Reasons for deleting[edit]

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See also: Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion § Redirects

You might want to delete a redirect if one or more of the following conditions is met (but note also the exceptions listed below this list):

  1. The redirect page makes it unreasonably difficult for users to locate similarly named articles via the search engine. For example, if the user searches for "New Articles", and is redirected to a disambiguation page for "Articles", it would take much longer to get to the newly added articles on Wikipedia.
  2. The redirect might cause confusion. For example, if "Adam B. Smith" was redirected to "Andrew B. Smith", because Andrew was accidentally called Adam in one source, this could cause confusion with the article on Adam Smith, so the redirect should be deleted.
  3. The redirect is offensive or abusive, such as redirecting "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" to "Joe Bloggs" (unless "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" is legitimately discussed in the article), or "Joe Bloggs" to "Loser". (Speedy deletion criterion G10 and G3 may apply.) See also § Neutrality of redirects.
  4. The redirect constitutes self-promotion or spam. (Speedy deletion criterion G11 may apply.)
  5. The redirect makes no sense, such as redirecting "Apple" to "Orange". (Speedy deletion criterion G1 may apply.)
  6. It is a cross-namespace redirect out of article space, such as one pointing into the User or Wikipedia namespace. The major exception to this rule are the pseudo-namespace shortcut redirects, which technically are in the main article space. Some long-standing cross-namespace redirects are also kept because of their long-standing history and potential usefulness. "MOS:" redirects, for example, are an exception to this rule. (Note also the existence of namespace aliases such as WP:. Speedy deletion criterion R2 may apply if the target namespace is something other than Category:, Template:, Wikipedia:, Help:, or Portal:.)
  7. If the redirect is broken, meaning it redirects to an article that does not exist, it can be immediately deleted under speedy deletion criterion G8. You should check that there is not an alternative place it could be appropriately redirected to first and that it has not become broken through vandalism.
  8. If the redirect is a novel or very obscure synonym for an article name that is not mentioned in the target, it is unlikely to be useful. In particular, redirects in a language other than English to a page whose subject is unrelated to that language (or a culture that speaks that language) should generally not be created. (Implausible typos or misnomers are candidates for speedy deletion criterion R3, if recently created.)
  9. If the target article needs to be moved to the redirect title, but the redirect has been edited before and has a history of its own, then the title needs to be freed up to make way for the move. If the move is uncontroversial, tag the redirect for G6 speedy deletion, or alternatively (with the suppressredirect user right; available to page movers and admins), perform a round-robin move. If not, take the article to Requested moves.
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    If the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject.

Reasons for not deleting[edit]

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However, avoid deleting such redirects if:

  1. They have a potentially useful page history, or an edit history that should be kept to comply with the licensing requirements for a merge (see Wikipedia:Merge and delete). On the other hand, if the redirect was created by renaming a page with that name, and the page history just mentions the renaming, and for one of the reasons above you want to delete the page, copy the page history to the Talk page of the article it redirects to. The act of renaming is useful page history, and even more so if there has been discussion on the page name.
  2. They would aid accidental linking and make the creation of duplicate articles less likely, whether by redirecting a plural to a singular, by redirecting a frequent misspelling to a correct spelling, by redirecting a misnomer to a correct term, by redirecting to a synonym, etc. In other words, redirects with no incoming links are not candidates for deletion on those grounds because they are of benefit to the browsing user. Some extra vigilance by editors will be required to minimize the occurrence of those frequent misspellings in the article texts because the linkified misspellings will not appear as broken links; consider tagging the redirect with the {{R from misspelling}} template to assist editors in monitoring these misspellings.
  3. They aid searches on certain terms. For example, users who might see the "Keystone State" mentioned somewhere but do not know what that refers to will be able to find out at the Pennsylvania (target) article.
  4. Deleting redirects runs the risk of breaking incoming or internal links. For example, redirects resulting from page moves should not normally be deleted without good reason. Links that have existed for a significant length of time, including CamelCase links (e.g. WolVes) and old subpage links, should be left alone in case there are any existing links on external pages pointing to them. See also Wikipedia:Link rot § Link rot on non-Wikimedia sites.
  5. Someone finds them useful. Hint: If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do. You might not find it useful—this is not because the other person is being untruthful, but because you browse Wikipedia in different ways. Evidence of usage can be gauged by using the wikishark or pageviews tool on the redirect to see the number of views it gets.
  6. The redirect is to a closely related word form, such as a plural form to a singular form.

Neutrality of redirects[edit]

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Just as article titles using non-neutral language are permitted in some circumstances, so are such redirects. Because redirects are less visible to readers, more latitude is allowed in their names, therefore perceived lack of neutrality in redirect names is not a sufficient reason for their deletion. In most cases, non-neutral but verifiable redirects should point to neutrally titled articles about the subject of the term. Non-neutral redirects may be tagged with {{R from non-neutral name}}.

Non-neutral redirects are commonly created for three reasons:

  1. Articles that are created using non-neutral titles are routinely moved to a new neutral title, which leaves behind the old non-neutral title as a working redirect (e.g. Climategate → Climatic Research Unit email controversy).
  2. Articles created as POV forks may be deleted and replaced by a redirect pointing towards the article from which the fork originated (e.g. Barack Obama Muslim rumor → deleted and now redirected to Barack Obama religion conspiracy theories).
  3. The subject matter of articles may be represented by some sources outside Wikipedia in non-neutral terms. Such terms are generally avoided in Wikipedia article titles, per the words to avoid guidelines and the general neutral point of view policy. For instance the non-neutral expression "Attorneygate" is used to redirect to the neutrally titled Dismissal of U.S. attorneys controversy. The article in question has never used that title, but the redirect was created to provide an alternative means of reaching it because a number of press reports use the term.

The exceptions to this rule would be redirects that are not established terms and are unlikely to be useful, and therefore may be nominated for deletion, perhaps under deletion reason #3. However, if a redirect represents an established term that is used in multiple mainstream reliable sources, it should be kept even if non-neutral, as it will facilitate searches on such terms. Please keep in mind that RfD is not the place to resolve most editorial disputes.

Closing notes[edit]

Details at Administrator instructions for RfD

Nominations should remain open, per policy, about a week before they are closed, unless they meet the general criteria for speedy deletion, the criteria for speedy deletion of a redirect, or are not valid redirect discussion requests (e.g. are actually move requests).

How to list a redirect for discussion[edit]

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STEP I.
Tag the redirect(s).

  Enter {{subst:rfd|content= at the very beginning of the redirect page you are listing for discussion and enter }} at the very end of the page.

  • Please do not mark the edit as minor (m).
  • Please include in the edit summary the phrase:
    Nominated for RfD: see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion]].
  • Save the page ("Publish changes").
  • If you are unable to edit the redirect page because of protection, this step can be omitted, and after step 2 is completed, a request to add the RFD template can be put on the redirect's talk page.
  • If the redirect you are nominating is in template namespace, consider adding |showontransclusion=1 to the RfD tag so that people using the template redirect are aware of the nomination.
  • If you are nominating multiple redirects as a group, repeat all the above steps for each redirect being nominated.
STEP II.
List the entry on RfD.

 Click here to edit the section of RfD for today's entries.

  • Enter this text below the date heading:
{{subst:Rfd2|redirect=RedirectName|target=TargetArticle|text=The action you would like to occur (deletion, re-targeting, etc.) and the rationale for that action.}} ~~~~
  • For this template:
    • Put the redirect's name in place of RedirectName, put the target article's name in place of TargetArticle, and include a reason after text=.
    • Note that, for this step, the "target article" is the current target of the redirect (if you have a suggestion for a better target, include this in the text that you insert after text=).
  • Please use an edit summary such as:
    Nominating [[RedirectName]]
    (replacing RedirectName with the name of the redirect you are nominating).
  • To list multiple related redirects for discussion, use the following syntax. Repeat line 2 for N number of redirects:
{{subst:Rfd2|redirect=RedirectName1|target=TargetArticle1}}
{{subst:Rfd2|multi=yes|redirect=RedirectName2|target=TargetArticle2}}
{{subst:Rfd2|multi=yes|redirect=RedirectNameN|target=TargetArticleN|text=The actions you would like to occur (deletion, re-targeting, etc.) and the rationale for those actions.}} ~~~~
  • If the redirect has had previous RfDs, you can add {{Oldrfdlist|previous RfD without brackets|result of previous RfD}} directly after the rfd2 template.
  • If appropriate, inform members of the most relevant WikiProjects through one or more "deletion sorting lists". Then add a {{subst:delsort|<topic>|<signature>}} template to the nomination, to insert a note that this has been done.
STEP III.
Notify users.

  It is generally considered good practice to notify the creator and main contributors of the redirect(s) that you nominate.

To find the main contributors, look in the page history of the respective redirect(s). For convenience, the template

{{subst:Rfd notice|RedirectName}} ~~~~

may be placed on the creator/main contributors' user talk page to provide notice of the discussion. Please replace RedirectName with the name of the respective creator/main contributors' redirect and use an edit summary such as:
Notice of redirect discussion at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion]]

Notices about the RfD discussion may also be left on relevant talk pages.

  • Please consider using What links here to locate other redirects that may be related to the one you are nominating. After going to the redirect target page and selecting "What links here" in the toolbox on the left side of your computer screen, select both "Hide transclusions" and "Hide links" filters to display the redirects to the redirect target page.

Current list[edit]

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June 14[edit]

Partisan movement[edit]

Retarget to Partisan or Partisan (military). My impression is that "Partisan movement" is a generic concept that does not imply Yugoslavia. For example, it could refer to Italian partisans, among others. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:12, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:36, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Cat poison[edit]

There's no content about cat poisons in the article, and very little about toxicity of foods to cats in either this article or Cat food. There's a couple sentence stub in the article history, but I doubt it would survive AFD in its current form, so I think this can just be deleted, because I don't see a good retargeting option that I can think of. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 21:40, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Could potentially redirect to Cat health#Toxic substances Traumnovelle (talk) 22:15, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Okay, I just missed that. Redirect to Cat health#Toxic substances. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 22:32, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Retarget as per Traumnovelle and Skarmory. Anyone looking for what might be poisonous to cats via searching "cat poison" would be well served by this new target. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 09:06, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Pkiro Wrokestling[edit]

This title is not a plausible error for "professional wrestling", to put it mildly. My searches for "Pkiro Wrokestling" didn't turn up any meaningful results, though weirdly a Facebook account mentions it.

However, it would appear that this redirect has "non-trivial page history". Its original content is identical to a past version of the main article (01:06, 12 April 2008). My guess is that the user who created it was upset that their "professional wrestling is fake" version of the article had been reverted and decided to surreptitiously create a fork by messing up with the title. Anyway, while I agree that pro wrestling is not a genuine sport, delete this redirect for being patently implausible and for not having page history worth preserving. Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 18:29, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Delete. Any substantial page history it has is, as noted, already preserved in the history of Professional wrestling. It's not a genuine sport because it's a theatre performance. Full-contact, no-holds barred, theatre. Calling it fake is like going to a stage play and calling Macbeth fake, like yeah, it is, but is that really the point?? 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:46, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Stone Temple Pilots (1994 album)[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: Withdrawn.

List of celebrities in The Simpsons[edit]

The title seems ambiguous over whether it should refer to guest stars in the series (in which case it would redirect to List of The Simpsons guest stars (seasons 21–present)) or in-universe fictional characters who are celebrities (the current purpose of the redirect). Xeroctic (talk) 15:23, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Football at the 2016 Summer Olympics – Women's CAF qualification[edit]

I call for a deletion of this title as it isn't/wasn't its proper name for it. Created by now-inactive user who was at first unsure about a proper titling of this article. Intrisit (talk) 15:22, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Megabucks (slot machine)[edit]

There is no mention of "Megabucks" at the target, meaning that this redirect is confusing or unnecessary. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:44, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Kelvin Lim[edit]

This redirect should be deleted, as all it serves is to redirect the Singaporean Basketball player Kelvin Lim to the completely unrelated criminal Kelvin Lim Hock Hin. There is no relation mentioned anywhere online or on Kelvin Lim Hock Hin's page. JubaTuba (talk) 05:59, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Delete, this is a WP:PTM and nom clearly lays out how it could be harmful. I will note that unless someone makes an actual page for Kelvin Lim, this issue will still persist in a form-- the search results pulled up by searching Kelvin Lim will still likely have Kelvin Lim Hock Hin at the very top of the list due to it being a partial title match. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 06:20, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[]
The nom has not established notability of the basketball player. There's no case for REDLINK, since this is a valid alternate spelling of the name for the criminal. It is his "English name" in the Singaporean context. If the basketball player gets an article, then this can be revisited. -- 64.229.90.32 (talk) 07:30, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Keep - per 64.229.90.32 and NelsonLee20042020. "Kelvin Lim" is a name that Kelvin Lim Hock Hin used - it's listed in "Other names" in the infobox, and he is referred to as just "Kelvin Lim" 5 times in the body of the article. Whether or not there's also a basketball player who has a similar name the redirect is valid and correct. If the basketball player ever becomes notable enough to get an article and it's also asserted that they are recognised by the name "Kelvin Lim", then maybe a disambiguation page can be created - but for now it's fine as-is. BugGhost🪲👻 11:16, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[]


June 13[edit]

Talk:COVID-19/Current consensus[edit]

Not a useful redirect Wow (talk) 23:38, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Kazakh Guide Association[edit]

Bear with me. This was originally an article by the now-blocked editor User:Kintetsubuffalo, which was deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kazakh Guide Association. After deletion it became a redirect to Scouting and Guiding in Kazakhstan, pretty much a disambiguation page with only one blue link, to Organization of the Scout Movement of Kazakhstan. That Scouting and Guiding in Kazakhstan would be a redirect to the Organization article is fair--but the rest of that content is just not of encyclopedic value, and the "Guide Association" material has only this as sourcing, a primary Girl Scout document which doesn't even mention the association. So I have turned Scouting and Guiding into a redirect (in three steps, explaining why), but this is not a valid search term/redirect. The very existence of the term is already questionable: Google offers nothing but things derived from Wikipedia. Drmies (talk) 22:07, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Delete this as per WP:REDLINK and WP:2R. Scouting and Guiding in Kazakhstan being pruned down to a redirect is valid; Kazakh Guide Association then becoming a redirect to Organization of the Scout Movement of Kazakhstan isn't, given they're presumably two different organizations. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 22:46, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Matriotism[edit]

"Matriotism" not mentioned in target, let alone the British flavour. Matriotism itself redirects to Cindy Sheehan, where it is also not mentioned. This article claims she "founded a movement" called matriotism, but redirecting to her (American) article would not be appropriate for this redirect in any case.

Possibly Matriotism should be retargeted to Frances Payne Adler, the coiner of the term, and then British matriotism retargeted there as well? But that's a bit of a stretch. Overall, in favor of deletion of this redirect (and retargeting Matriotism). Rusalkii (talk) 20:09, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

@Rusalkii: I have taken the liberty of adding Matriotism to this nomination. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 21:20, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Peanut butter burger[edit]

I cannot find any references referring to the target as such. However, on third party search engines, I did find recipes for burger sandwiches containing peanut butter and a ground beef patty, which is not what the target article is about. Steel1943 (talk) 20:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Not sure what you mean. It's the Elvis sandwich. The article is about that. They sold peanut butter burgers at Sonic Drive-In for a while there. It was just a variant of the Elvis sandwich. Here is where the article discusses peanut butter burgers. Noah Tall (talk) 05:34, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[]
I don't know about you but around here peanut butter burgers have nothing to do with Elvis. It's your standard burger, but you replace the sauce/mayonaise/condiments with peanut butter. E.g. [4] "PEANUT BUTTER BURGER: Fresh beef patty, peanut butter (on both buns), lettuce, tomato, onions, pickles, cheddar cheese, and bacon."
Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:34, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[]
I'm not so sure, Noah. Here's an article about the Sonic peanut butter burger, and it clearly has a ground beef patty and no bananas in sight. Also, the "discussion" in the article regarding peanut butter burgers is a single sentence, which could be easily removed from the article without breaking the flow of the article, only states that "burgers done Elvis style have become increasingly popular in the United States", and whose only source given is this recipe for an Elvis burger. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 09:21, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Fourth mode of transport[edit]

No mention of modes of transport being numbered on the target page. the phrase "fourth mode of transport" doesn't appear to have a common specific referent, though there do seem to be four common modes of transport generally talked about. google gives lots of quizzes about "what are the four modes of transport", but they don't seem to have any particular canonical order. "Fourth mode of transport" has only 3 hits, all of which talk about adding a fourth mode to some existing network. Rusalkii (talk) 20:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Intruder alert[edit]

Well, giving this some thought, I do not think this is correct. The phrase is not mentioned in the target article, and most likely readers searching this term are intending to either find some topic related to Alarm or a quote from some media ... which the latter can be difficult to pinpoint since there is apparently a lot of media that reference an "intruder alert" either in context or a quote. Steel1943 (talk) 19:56, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

insert berzerk joke here per the discussion three entries below this one. also delete as too widespread for a primary topic but too unremarkable on its own for a disambig cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:12, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Delete as per nom. Worth noting that Intruder is a DAB page, and probably wouldn't be a good target for this redirect. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 21:09, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Ruby and Sapphire[edit]

it pains me to say this, but the pokémon games don't seem to be the primary topic for mentions of those two specific minerals together. torn on retargeting to garnet (steven universe) as she's a fusion of the characters known as ruby and sapphire, to the list of steven universe characters as it includes ruby and sapphire, or just deleting, but will lean towards retargeting to the list cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:53, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

2024 Dublin Bay North by-election[edit]

Under WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTALBALL. As Spleodrach said, this by-election may never happen. Until it does, we don't need a page for this, or for the other vacancies which may be confirmed by this evening. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 19:53, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Intruder Alert! Intruder Alert![edit]

"intruder alert" currently redirects to trespasser. don't think this line is or can feasibly be primarily associated with berzerk quite like... all the other lines. google's results are confusing, but mostly seem to point to assorted movie lines and an achievement in a lego batman game. a little torn on voting for retargeting or deletion, but will lean towards retargeting cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:31, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Technical music[edit]

Not mentioned in the target article. The target article mentions used of technology, but the use of the word "technical" is not exclusive to technology. In addition, if the word "technical" is meant to refer to technology, then arguably the most technological-heavy music genre is Electronic music. Probably best to delete this vague redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 18:50, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

delete as vague, as this could refer to techno, electronic music, literally any song more complex in structure or production than a nursery rhyme, and jazz cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:35, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Bienver metal[edit]

Not mentioned in the target article, leaving it unclear what these redirects are meant to refer. Third party search engines do not seem to know what this means either ... given the top results I receive when looking up this phrase relate to Justin Bieber. Steel1943 (talk) 18:06, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Delete per OP — Czello (music) 18:07, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Delete per nonsensical topic. Thanks,NeuropolTalk 18:09, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Under the influence of alcohol[edit]

Unlikely search query Mondtaler (talk) 17:17, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 17:19, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Electric Turbo[edit]

The Porsche Taycan 'Turbo' models don't actually have a turbocharger, it's just a namesake for a higher-performance model of a car. In that sense, it's kinda misleading. I did a google search, and 'electric turbo' doesn't seem to be a common nickname for the Taycan Turbo models either. Now, looking at retarget options, there does exist electric supercharger (I know technically there's no such thing as an "electric turbo" but that's what {{R from incorrect name}} is for), but having a look at that article, there also exists electrically-assisted turbocharger, so I'm not sure where to retarget it to. — AP 499D25 (talk) 06:27, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Retarget or disambiguate?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 17:18, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Szökés[edit]

For some reason, the Hungarian name of a TV show was redirected there in 2007, without explanation. It's obviously unused, nor are other language names for the same TV show redirected, and there is practically no reader traffic. Diacriticless variants were created next year by bots as well. Joy (talk) 17:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Conjunctival pallor[edit]

while this is a key symptom of anemia, this redirect does not lead to the actual topic, rather a cause of the symptom Thanks,NeuropolTalk 13:08, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Weak delete Is there another disease that causes conjunctival pallor? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:03, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]
It's only really observed in anemia, but this is because it is mostly looked for when diagnosing anemia. Thanks,NeuropolTalk 14:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Anaemia isn't a disease, it's a symptom of many diseases. I am not aware of any condition that causes it aside from anaemia but I still see it as a bad redirect. Traumnovelle (talk) 22:28, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Anagrams as establishment of priority[edit]

Scientists of the early modern period often encoded key discoveries as anagrams to establish priority before publication. These should all target Anagram#Establishment of priority, or they should all target the relevant topics they encode: Rings of Saturn#History for the first two, and Hooke's law for the latter. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:26, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

I'm a bit confused. You created Aaaaaaacccccdeeeeeghiiiiiiillllmmnnnnnnnnnooooppqrrstttttuuuuu only to immediately RfD it? Tercer (talk) 18:37, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]
I'm guessing nom's thought process was, "Well, I made this redirect, but I'm not sure if it should point where Smaismrmilmepoetaleumibunenugttauiras points or if it should point analogously to where Ceiiinosssttuv points (which would be Rings of Saturn#History), so I'll just bundle my new redirect in with these two confused redirects as an RfD". 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:40, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Yeah the target seemed to be the biggest question. I think we should simply make the target wherever the nature of the anagram is best explained. Further needed wikilinks are there. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 06:38, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Retarget/keep all three to Anagram#Establishment of priority, where the purpose of these anagrams-- how they're constructed, what they mean, and why they were made- are discussed at length. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:52, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Hurt (Witt Lowry song)[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: speedy delete

June 12[edit]

Orange star[edit]

Retarget to K-type main-sequence star per WP:DIFFCAPS and WP:PTOPIC: the star type is far more important and has more long-term significance. Cremastra (talk) 21:41, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Doug Lawrence[edit]

Per the page view comparison of the current target, the nominated redirect, and Doug Lawrence (jazz) (which I have since moved to Doug Lawrence (musician), which is now included in the page view analysis), it really does not seem as though readers searching "Doug Lawrence" are intending to locate Mr. Lawrence. I'd recommend disambiguate since it is not clear that readers are looking for the jazz musician either. Steel1943 (talk) 20:29, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[]

French-speakers outside of Quebec[edit]

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

The redirect has a different target than it had during the RFD in 2019, but still has the same problem: The redirect is not exclusive to Canada as there are French speakers around the world, like in ... France and Louisiana, neither part of Canada. Steel1943 (talk) 18:23, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[]

In Canadian French, "Francophones hors Québec" refers specifically to French speakers that live in a Canadian province or territory that is not Quebec.[5] It does not apply to those living in other countries. That being said, this is en.wiki, and I don't know if English-language sources use "French-speakers outside of Quebec" in this sense. 162 etc. (talk) 19:13, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Ragnarock music[edit]

Not mentioned in the target article, leaving it unclear what this redirect is meant to refer or identify. The closest subject I could find for this title is Ragnarock, but given that is an article about a record label whereas this redirect has seemingly always targeted a page about music genres, I do not believe readers would be trying to find the record label when searching the redirect's title. Steel1943 (talk) 18:02, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Redirect to Ragnarok (disambiguation)#Music as per Nurg, seems like the most useful target BugGhost🪲👻 11:17, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Untitled Beetlejuice sequel[edit]

Delete per WP:UFILM. The target subject no longer untitled, and the article was moved to its current title in February 2024, 4 months ago, which is greater than WP:UFILM's 30-day minimum. Steel1943 (talk) 12:39, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[]

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Raisi[edit]

A quick explainer on the history of this redirect: Initially, Raisi had been a redirect to Raisi, Razavi Khorasan (an article about a tiny village). Later on, I moved the article to its present title, intending to disambiguate the base title. However, I then noticed that Raisi (disambiguation) already existed, so I made a request at WP:RM/TR, which was promptly fulfilled. Thus, Raisi became a dab page, with Raisi (disambiguation) a redirect to it. In the last chapter of this saga, IP user 2601:646:8003:6B20:894E:7841:319C:88CA redirected the page to Ebrahim Raisi, so the page Raisi (disambiguation) was automatically retargeted as well. However, since it has (disambiguation) in the title, it's eligible for deletion under G14 if kept as is.

I see two (or maybe three) options out of this strange pickle:

  • Firstly (and what I advocate), we could restore the dab page at Raisi, and retarget Raisi (disambiguation) to Raisi. This restores the previous status quo.
  • Secondly, we could have Raisi as a redirect to Ebrahim Raisi, and Raisi (disambiguation) be the dab page. I have at least two issues with this: firstly, that Ebrahim Raisi might not pass ten year test, despite his newfound fame due to his death. Plus, here's also the technical history of attribution when dabbing Raisi (disambiguation). However, if there's enough support for it, I could see this work.
  • Thirdly, and the option I'd oppose the most, we keep Raisi, speedy delete Raisi (disambiguation), and handle disambiguation via some sort of massive hatnote(s) on the article Ebrahim Raisi. The reason I'd oppose this so much is because the hatnote(s) would have to be enormous - the previous dab page had ten entries, plus one see also.

Anyways, yeah, this is complicated.

Duckmather (talk) 22:06, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Option 1: Restore Raisi as a disambiguation page. Ibrahim Raisi was not primarily known by that name, so WP:DABPARTIAL applies. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 23:47, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Oh, I just noticed that old content of the Raisi disambiguation page lists even more people, and has for a couple of years before this recent incident. [6] had no edit summary whatsoever and should have been reverted first. --Joy (talk) 11:20, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[]

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Roman Catholid Diocese of Down and Connor[edit]

Unlikely misspelling of "Catholic" not commonly found in the world, or in comparable redirects to any other of thousands of diocese with articles in Wikipedia. BD2412 T 23:50, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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  • Keep - Plausible typo as demonstrated by Ca above, which makes it a valid redirect. I likewise reject pandora arguments, as redirects are WP:CHEAP. The questions should be "Is this ambiguous? Is it harmful? Will it cause confusion? Is it implausible?" and the answer is no to all. Fieari (talk) 23:30, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[]

IRC +10414[edit]

Procedural listing; a previous RfD was closed with a consensus to retarget, but InTheAstronomy32 has reverted this. SevenSpheres (talk) 18:44, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Metal (group)[edit]

Could also refer to subtopics of Chemical element or Periodic table. However, I'm thinking the best course of action is delete since I do not believe retargeting this redirect to Metal (disambiguation) is a feasible resolution since there doesn't seem to be sufficient entries there that relate to this redirect, and I'm not sure if they belong there either. Steel1943 (talk) 15:36, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[]

बालवीर[edit]

A redirect in Hindi language, I don't think anyone is going to search Baalveer in hindi on English Wikipedia. M S Hassan (talk) 09:50, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Wikipedia:Michael Aarons[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: Speedy delete (G6) as unambiguously created in error

Bible Videos[edit]

List of films of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints#Bible Videos doesn't seem like the appropriate target for such a broadly-named redirect. ~Awilley (talk) 04:35, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[]

disambiguate. keeping would feel like if "music video" redirected to iosys, or if "fast food" redirected to mcdonald's. there's really no point in redirecting a basic concept like this to a single entity cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 02:36, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[]

June 11[edit]

Rich young man[edit]

This phrase is rather generic, and is at least ambiguous with the concept of the Trust Fund Baby. BD2412 T 13:32, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Keep but with hatnote pointing to Trust Fund Baby per above --Lenticel (talk) 02:36, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[]

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2025 United Kingdom general election[edit]

Redirect was originally set up as a redirect to Next United Kingdom general election at a time when it could have been held in either 2024 or 2025. Now that it has been announced that the next election will be held in 2024 and with the United Kingdom having five year terms, it is very unlikely there will be a 2025 election. Propose deleting. Broanetar (talk) 04:08, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Delete as per nom. 2025 is not 2024. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 06:17, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[]

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Keep, for now - there's been headlines that mention a 2025 UK election, such as: [11], [12], [13], but they are all referencing same topic of the 2024 election, just with a different/questioning date of it arriving. It's reasonable to think there are people who believe it's happening in 2025. After the election has happened, I would fully support deleting the redirect but for now while there's still potential confusion, the redirect should stay. Agreeing with Tavix re: the List of United Kingdom general elections#21st century redirect, it's unlikely the searcher wants information about any other election. BugGhost🪲👻 09:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Toyotathon[edit]

Not mentioned in the target. Mia Mahey (talk) 20:31, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Delete as per WP:REDLINK. From what I can tell, this is some sort of annual year-end sales event from the company. Sources can be found as to its existence (including Forbes); that being said, we don't currently have any information concerning this event in our Toyota article; nor has there been information on it since the June 2007 creation of this redirect. The fact that the name "Toyotathon" contains the name "Toyota" severely cuts the plausibility of someone searching "Toyotathon" and being happy with information on Toyota at large-- if they wanted information on Toyota at large, they'd search for Toyota. No, if they search "Toyotathon", they want information about that event, info we don't have. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:54, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

American Evacuation Day[edit]

Not mentioned at target article. Only appears in the article for June 11 which is not a date listed anywhere in the target article. DrowssapSMM 20:09, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

The Stand Off[edit]

This is not mentioned in the target article. Third party searches are not really helping matters to identify what subject these redirects are meant to refer either. On one hand, searching "The Stand Off Netflix" on some third party search engines returns results for miniseries Waco: American Apocalypse; however, I was not able to find any information stating that miniseries was known previously as "The Stand Off". In addition, there is also the subject at Standoff (film), made in 2016 ... but, there is also a different film which we apparently do not have an article for, which was also made in 2016, called "The Standoff" [15] starring Olivia Holt. Probably best to delete these unless a strong connection can be made between these redirects and at least one of the aforementioned subjects (or one that has yet to be created.) Steel1943 (talk) 17:43, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Upon further research, seems the subject of these redirects is not the miniseries Waco: American Apocalypse. According to an article written a few years back [16], apparently, the subject is about a screenplay (probably intended to become a film) written by Mark Heyman, but in that article, there is no mention of a subject by the name of the nominated redirects. Steel1943 (talk) 19:48, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]
  • Weak retarget to the dab at Standoff where two films are listed. "Stand off" is obviously a very plausible search term for most things listed at the dab page, "Stand Off" equally so for at least the media productions and the Canadian community. Similarly "The Stand Off" and "The Standoff" are both completely plausible search terms for the other, but what about for things without the definite article? My gut feeling is that it's not impossible for someone to misremember the name of the media productions, but I'm not familiar with any of them hence the "weak". Thryduulf (talk) 22:06, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Mika Model (film)[edit]

Yet another potentially failed WP:CRYSTAL. Per third party search engines, seems as though Netflix bought the rights to produce a film based on the short story Mika Model around 2019, but then after that news ... nothing else really since on third party search engines. In addition, Mika Model is currently a redirects towards Paolo Bacigalupi, the author of the short story; However, the only mention of "Mika Model" on Paolo Bacigalupi is mentioning the short story exists, not even identifying what the short story is about, and there is no mention of a film by the name "Mika Model" there either. Steel1943 (talk) 17:23, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Mimi from Rio (film)[edit]

Delete per result of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 6#Mimi from Rio. (Unfortunately, I just noticed the existence of this redirect; if I had noticed it back then, I would have bundled with the previous discussion.) Steel1943 (talk) 17:17, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Lady Business[edit]

Besides the target section not existing, this does not seem like a plausible synonymous phrase for the target article's subject. Elsewhere on Wikipedia, there seems to be a mention of a television series named Lady Business which ran in either 2012 or 2013, a fanzine named Lady Business, an episode of Nurses (Canadian TV series), and reversing the words results in a band named Business Lady; however, the TV series and the fanzine do not have articles, and the band's name is the words reversed. Steel1943 (talk) 17:11, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Ryland Adams[edit]

Following the relevant AfD discussion that was closed with a decision to Delete the Ryland Adams article, and rejecting the motion to create a Merge or Redirect link instead, a Redirect was nonetheless created, in direct violation of the decision. The Gnome (talk) 15:53, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Keep. Reading the discussion, while the ultimate result was outright deletion, nobody really made any headway towards actually refuting the idea of merging, and nobody brought up the idea of turning it into a redirect to existing material whatsoever. Either way, once such a deletion takes place, there's really nothing stopping someone from making a new article or redirect unless the thing gets salted, and equally, nothing but page protection can stop someone from grabbing text that used to be on a deleted page and adding it to another article as a posthumous "merge" (besides, well, how easy it is to GET said info)-- and not only should we only reach for the protection tools if a pattern develops of disruptive editing at a specific title/article, but also, said protection tools don't ever guarantee that something is locked in stone for all eternity, as someone can still always argue for a change somewhere.
As for the actual redirect itself, it redirects to the current place on Wikipedia that we have information on the subject. I'd say it's a good redirect. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 16:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]
You are essentially re-judgint a discussion closed with an explicit reasoning. The closer did not bother with any alternative suggestions made, and they did not have to. A closure that does not address any and all suggestions made does not mean that contributors can use that as an excuse to bypass the decision. We might as well ignore all decisions outright. As to what might happen if the decision remains implemented, we cannot proceed under criteria of fear. We have adequate measures in place to address and confront miscreants. As to "arguments," we can only say, bring them on, by all means. -The Gnome (talk) 18:23, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]
I... what!?!?
  • re-judging a discussion closed with an explicit reasoning
user:Liz closed this with simply "The result was Delete." There was no followup comment whatsoever-- no "We should also salt this", no "Don't make a redirect/merge", no "Don't recreate the article even if you find good sources", nothing. This can, and should, simply be interpreted as, "The article in its current state should not be on Wikipedia. If someone would like to take the resulting WP:REDLINK and do something else with it, feel free." That is a normal, valid method of interpreting an AfD result like this.
  • We might as well ignore all decisions outright.
Oh no, feel free to do that. Decisions should never be flat ignored. However, that doesn't mean that they should be given more weight than necessary. The article as it stood was deleted. It's not here anymore. The "article" currently in its place is just a redirect.
  • As to what might happen if the decision remains implemented,...
...that's why we're here, this is a redirect in RFD--
  • ...we cannot proceed under criteria of fear. We have adequate measures in place to address and confront miscreants.
--And here's where you lose me entirely. Fear!? Miscreants?!?! Who the heck is holding a gun up to your head!?? This is just a redirect! ( 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:40, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]
P.S. Note that the connection to the Target Article is simply a personal relationship between the two individuals one decidedly non-notable; a tenuous reason for keeping a name extant in Wikipedia. -The Gnome (talk) 18:23, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Kahru[edit]

article about Iran village (not a city like said!) called Gahru even doesn't mention "Kahru". And Kahru to be reserved to Estonian village Kahru, Rõuge Parish Estopedist1 (talk) 15:14, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Retarget according to nom. None of the Romanization of Persian mixes up the letters <k> and <g> for the same sound. Ca talk to me! 11:50, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Valinor Hills Station[edit]

There's no indication that this is referred to as a "station", either officially or unofficially, by anyone. I'm not sure whether or not a plain "Valinor Hills" redirect would be more suitable. It doesn't seem very useful, but it would make more sense at least. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 14:03, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[]

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Internet Phone Operating System[edit]

Listing this separately from #Apple Internet Phone Operating System as beside similar issues with this being an unlikely search term, lacking a specific brand makes it more likely to cause confusion. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 12:20, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Delete - No clear target. The creator may have been under the impression that the "i" in iPhone is short for "internet", which it isn't - and from searching it doesn't look like this is a common mistake. Could arguably be retargeted to Mobile operating system, but that article isn't strictly related to the internet - there are mobile operating systems that don't have internet connectivity. BugGhost🪲👻 13:36, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Apple Internet Phone Operating System[edit]

Implausible search term, this exact term has not been used in sources. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 12:17, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Bush Derangement Syndrom[edit]

The redirect pages Bush Derangement Syndrome and Bush derangement syndrome already exist, though when I type "Bush derangement" into the search bar, only the redirect with the misspelt title is listed, and I have to finish typing "syndrome" into the search bar in order for either of the correctly-spelt redirects to appear. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 11:59, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Drake LaRoche[edit]

Redirects to an article where there is no mention of him. Lost in Quebec (talk) 10:28, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

He was mentioned on there, until that was removed. He should be mentioned, considering that he received wide coverage in connection with his father's retirement in 2016. This was not incidental naming, but news articles directly about Drake LaRoche.
See: The Athletic (2021), NBC (on the "Drake LaRoche saga"), Sports Illustrated, Washington Post, CBS Sports, Sports Illustrated, again, etc. D. Benjamin Miller (talk) 01:31, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Hendrik Sal-Saller[edit]

has SIGCOV, hence we need a red link to show that standalone article is missing in enwiki Estopedist1 (talk) 10:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

  • Weak keep as a {{R from member}} since deleting the redirect would hinder navigation, even considering WP:RETURNTORED. That, and if the nominator sees the potential to create an article, nothing is really stopping them from overwriting the redirect with an article. Steel1943 (talk) 19:38, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Kristian Taska[edit]

has SIGCOV, hence we need a red link to show that standalone article is missing in enwiki Estopedist1 (talk) 10:01, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Blagger[edit]

This was flagged up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation#Searching for "Blagger" currently redirects to a page with no mention of the word. by user:Oathed with the comment seems weird that it doesn't link or disambig to Blagger (video game). Not sure how to mark a page for "Disambig page needed". At the very least this does need a hatnote to the video game, but I'm not acutally sure the video game isn't the primary target. Neither the present target nor Pretexting (linked as the main article) use the term. The only other uses I'm finding (Blaggers ITA (formerly known as The Blaggers) and The Blaggers Guide would be at most see-alsos on a dab page.
The video game article was created at this title but moved in March 2018 by Zxcvbnm with the summary "Merge, in order to disambiguate" but they just changed the redirect target and added a hatnote. The hatnote was removed without explanation by an IP in 2020, but the mention of "blagging" had been removed in July 2018 as part of a cull of unreferenced information by Michaelgt123. None of "blag", "blagging" or "blagger" has ever been included in the Pretext article. Thryduulf (talk) 20:27, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[]

The redirect made at least some sense at the time it was created. The article Pretext, as it appeared at the time, was about the general well-understood meaning of a "pretext"; a reason given in justification of a course of action that is not the real reason. It had only a single paragraph describing the social engineering trick.
Meanwhile, the article Social engineering (security), as it appeared at the time, in the section Pretexting, said "Pretexting..., also known in the UK as blagging". So that made at least some sense as a target (although even then, I think the video game article would have been a more appropriate target).
The video game seems pretty clearly to be the primary use for "Blagger"; if the "blagging" text is re-added to the Social engineering (security) article (as it probably should, there seems to be sufficient documentation of that, e.g., [17] at the BBC), it can be dealt with by ordinary disambiguation (hatnote or a Blagger (disambiguation) page, as appropriate). TJRC (talk) 02:39, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Delete, move Blagger (video game) to it, then add a hatnote. "Blagging" is an informal term in UK that has similarities to social engineering, but it's not quite the same thing - it's just a phrase that sort of means "bullshitter", someone who can make up lies quickly - social engineers will blag, but not all blaggers are social engineers. For example most improv comedians are good blaggers, but that doesn't mean they are doing anything nefarious. Seeing as Blagger (video game) exists, it should be the primary topic. BugGhost🪲👻 13:53, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

The Big One (earthquake)[edit]

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Previously discussed at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 December 28#The Big One (earthquake). However, multiple sources prove that "The Big One" does not only refer to the anticipated mega-quake in Los Angeles, but also refers to a similar feared one that can devastate Metro Manila, the Philippines. Here are some of the reliable sources that prove "The Big One" is not just a U.S. thing: from Rizal Medical Center, from DOST, from Inquirer.net, from Manila Bulletin, from a World Bank blog, from Philippine Star, and from Manila Standard Today. This redirect should be made as a disambiguation page. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 08:27, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Chhota Bheem 1[edit]

The redirects doesn't make any sense. M S Hassan (talk) 07:38, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

@M S Hassan: I made these redirects (when I was going through the list of Indian film series), as a chronological search aid for theatrical films in order of release for the series.
These, 1 and 5, should be targetted to the relevant articles (for the 2012 and 2024 film) respectively. Cheers. Gotitbro (talk) 08:54, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

2024 Sonsio Grand Prix at the Indiapolis Motor Speedway[edit]

Delete - Unplausible search target/cleanup after target article was initially created here (due to a newer editor being unaware they could overwrite the old redirect at the target). ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)  03:55, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Unused already-merged Bio_coatrack et al[edit]

Merged into {{coatrack}} since [18]. Their names falsely imply that they will still display a more biology-related notice. In reality, they are just unused redirects. Only mentions are basically Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Template_redirects and other lists. 184.146.170.127 (talk) 03:59, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

This should be completely uncontroversial, but from a purely clerical standpoint template redirects should be at RfD and not TfD. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 11:01, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Agreed, though I'll chime in here in favor of delete in case it's not moved/reopened as an RfD. We don't need weird redirects lingering around that are not in actual use.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  12:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]
We don't need weird redirects lingering around that are not in actual use if only that would actually happen more here :) Gonnym (talk) 07:57, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Moved the above from Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 June 10#Unused already-merged Bio_coatrack et al as the correct venue. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:10, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Delete. The template does not give any "bio" (biography? biology?) specific details. Gonnym (talk) 07:59, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

2022 Ohio abortion of a 10-year old[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: withdrawn

Virgini[edit]

Would Virginia really be the primary topic of this misspelling? It's a phonetic misspelling of Virginie, and Virginis, Virginio and Virginity are also possibilities. -- Tavix (talk) 02:01, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Notcoin[edit]

not mentioned at target. ltbdl (talk) 01:53, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

June 10[edit]

Factory owner[edit]

Comparing the current target of this redirect, the former targets Bourgeoisie and Means of production, and Factory which doesn't seem to mention "owner(s)" ... it does not seem that there is a specific article readers may be attempting to locate when searching this phrase. Steel1943 (talk) 23:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Hummingbird Salamander (film)[edit]

Another failed WP:CRYSTAL based on Netflix acquiring rights to make a film (in 2017), but then nothing really found in third party search engines after that. Seems as though the film would have been based on the subject at Hummingbird Salamander; however, the aforementioned article currently does not contain information about a film, leaving it currently a "not-so-good" target to retarget this redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 23:35, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Dorothy & Alice[edit]

Seems like failed WP:CRYSTAL. Per third party search engines, looks as though Netflix acquired rights to produce a film by this name, but then ... not finding anything else on third party search engines. In addition, the only place where the phrase "Dorothy & Alice" is mentioned on Wikipedia is Allelon Ruggiero, but not in the content of the article but rather a reference. Steel1943 (talk) 23:25, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Comment: @Steel1943: I've removed duplicates of the same nom entries, unless there are others of the same line! Intrisit (talk) 19:54, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]
...Which I have reverted per my edit summary on my revert. Steel1943 (talk) 20:19, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

The Waffle House has found its new host[edit]

I have not found a mention of the "new host" thing in the target article, though I had first learned about it from a MatPat video a while ago. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 21:33, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Keep I added a properly cited mention to the section. 👍 Ca talk to me! 01:41, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

EMBO journal & reports[edit]

XY redirect. The subject is The EMBO Journal or EMBO Reports, not both. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:07, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Further thoughts on the page history?
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merge history or simply delete?
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Barood (2003 film)[edit]

If this film does exist, should probably "Delete per WP:REDYES". Either way, it's a bit misleading and WP:UNDUE and WP:SURPRISEing that this film redirect targets one of potentially multiple notable people that could be associated with the film. Steel1943 (talk) 21:02, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

For a while after I nominated this redirect, I was thinking this redirect may represent a WP:HOAX, but ... it seems the only source I could find about the subject of this redirect is https://letterboxd.com/film/barood-2003/watch/ . I could not find any other sources, but the subject of the redirect definitely seems to represent a different subject than Barood (2004 film). Steel1943 (talk) 21:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Terrible Secret of Space[edit]

Original page covered a non-notable meme and was redirected in a 2005 VfD to The Laziest Men on Mars, who wrote music that was a popular bit of the meme. That page was itself redirected to All your base are belong to us in 2023 ([19]). The end result is that this page for a non-notable meme now redirects to an entirely different meme. Technically this is "mentioned" on Eye Drops but given the lack of content on that page I think it's unlikely to be useful as a redirect and recommend deletion. Dylnuge (Talk • Edits) 20:20, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Papa Emeritus 2[edit]

Papa Emeritus redirects to Ghost (Swedish band)#Papa Emeritus section and already covers Papa Emeritus II.

I wonder if the initially capitalized redirect contradicts with Papa emeritus (Bishops in the Catholic Church#Pope emeritus). LEILA FERRAZ (talk) 19:32, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Wikipedia:TRIVIALMENTION[edit]

Usually, people are looking for WP:TRIVIAL, which has seen more attention, has more information, and details guidelines instead of just restating them. While searching these redirects will probably include the target page as a result even without this redirect, it will not bring out WP:TRIVIAL. Thus, I think it'll be most helpful to navigation to retarget both of these redirects to WP:TRIVIAL.

I've also talked about the confusion a bit on the article creator's talk page. I believe that this is a good compromise instead of using a hatnote as I've previously advocated for. Aaron Liu (talk) 15:32, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

I don't understand the request. WP:TRIVIAL is a redirect, and redirecting WP:TRIVIALMENTION there would create a double redirect. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:35, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Of course, I mean retargetting it to where that redirect points to. Aaron Liu (talk) 15:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Emigration from North Korea[edit]

This may refer to multiple topics. I propose to retarget it to Category:North Korean diaspora. GZWDer (talk) 12:51, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Support per nom. The pages included in the category more throughly covers the topic. Ca talk to me! 12:23, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Carpenters[edit]

I reverted a bold change of target from Carpentry to The Carpenters, but the idea deserves discussion. A disambiguation page is also an option. What do others think? Certes (talk) 11:31, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Disamb makes the most sense, the terms seem co-primary for this redirect. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:58, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]
@Randy Kryn:, please embolden your "Disamb" word so as to help the closer decide the cumulative outcome of this entry. Intrisit (talk) 19:54, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Nicktoons (TV network)[edit]

This title is a bit considerable considering the international versions of Nicktoons. But I'll also consider the other side of it towards deletion if the title is unmerited now. What do you think? Intrisit (talk) 11:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Nicktoons (TV channel)[edit]

This title is ambiguous considering the international versions of it so it could be a DAB page. American Wikipedians may dispute this; that's why I've listed it here, since this title hasn't hasn't fallen into one before. Intrisit (talk) 11:12, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

㌽[edit]

Why would the English Wikipedia redirect to non-English Wiktionary entries? Fram (talk) 10:27, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Eh? The target is an English Wiktionary entry. Thryduulf (talk) 11:00, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Wiktionary entries for non-English words or terms. Wiktionary starts with the languages an entry is in (the heading), and the only such heading here is "Japanese". For comparison, the entry for "bread"[21] has headings "English", "Middle English", "Old English", and "Spanish", so that is an English Wiktionary entry. Fram (talk) 11:08, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Keep. Because English Wiktionary explains in English the meaning of the Japanese word that forms the character. I don't know that there is any exact meaning of point (disambiguation) that is represented by ㌽, so I leave the readers to find out what works in their case. --Error (talk) 11:55, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]
But why would we have redirects to explain words in other languages? We could add millions of redirects if we do this, for every word in every language. Fram (talk) 12:04, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Keep. We have articles and redirects for characters (not words), because people want to know what they mean and look them up in Wikipedia. In this case the English Wiktionary entry is better than anything we have locally, so the soft redirect is the most helpful to readers. Thryduulf (talk) 12:25, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Why would we allow redirects for foreign-language characters because people want to know what they mean, but not for words because people want to know what they mean? What makes characters so special? Fram (talk) 12:31, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Because characters and words are not the same thing. The reason we don't have redirects for foreign words is expressed best at WP:RFOREIGN, those considerations don't occur for single characters. Thryduulf (talk) 12:47, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]
That's a non-answer if ever I saw one. Why A and not B? "A and B are not the same, and here we explain why not B". Well yes, but you argue to keep A, and don't give a reason why the arguments would be different. Further, the page you list to is about internal redirects, not about redirects to Wiktionary or the like. You also claim that "those considerations don't occur for single characters", but most of the arguments in the "Rationale" section of that page apply just as well to single characters. Fram (talk) 12:56, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]
To editor Fram:: Is your objection to redirects to Wiktionary, redirects from non-Latin characters or redirects from CJK characters? --Error (talk) 14:24, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Redirects from characters, words, ... not in use in English and without an article here. Fram (talk) 14:33, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]
is there a reason the target is a search, and not the thing that would be searched? if not, retarget to wikt:㌽. otherwise, keep cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:47, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]
That's how interwiki soft redirects work (my guess is that it's so that you get search results rather than an error if the target page doesn't exist, but you get taken to the page if it does) so your suggested retarget is the current target. Thryduulf (talk) 21:04, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Can you please wait before you create more similar redirects. You have now added ㍀ and ㍁, but if this one gets created, then adding more of the same onbly creates more work afterwards. Fram (talk) 12:16, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

There are some kanji categorized as Category:Kanji, Category:Kyōiku kanji. I think that Category:Simplified Chinese radicals‎ and Category:Kangxi radicals list most of the radicals. There are few redirects there, either because they don't exist or they are not categorized. Category:Specific_kana lists all of them, it seems. Picking one at random, ra has seven redirects from specific Unicode characters, all of them seem reasonable to me. --Error (talk) 16:46, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Strictly speaking this is not true: Wiktionary does not describe this "character" (it isn't a character), nor how it is used. For example it does not mention that in vertical writing (where I suspect such use may be more common) the four elements of the character-space, written l-r, t-b, would be ン　ポ　ト　イ (because actually they would have to be written t-b, r-l). In other words the actual appearance shown in the Unicode CJK compatibility box is not necessarily how the "character" would appear in actual use. And there is no obvious evidence of this "character" actually being in use [as opposed to "mention"] in an Internet search. If there is an established principle that WP does not provide links to Wikt for just any foreign word, the argument for needing a redirect for non-standard representations of such words strikes me as infinitely weak. Imaginatorium (talk) 05:07, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Template:WikiProject Open Access/OAFD[edit]

Cross namespace redirect that existed for 22 minutes. Gonnym (talk) 10:13, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Druisk[edit]

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

This redirect is simply incorrect. It stems from a misinterpretation of a redirect in a paper encyclopedia printed over 100 years ago. Druysk is an agrotown in Vitebsk Oblast, Belarus, near Braslaw. It is situated over 200 km away from Kaunas, Lithuania. The mixup arose because the Jewish Encyclopedia (1906) contains the following entry:

DRUISK. See Kovno.

However, this just refers to the fact that Druysk belonged to the Kovno Governorate of the Russian Empire, an administrative division which covered a fairly large area, including Braslaw and its environs. For confirmation of this fact, one may consult this 1864 map of Kovno Governorate. Druysk (Друйскъ) is in fact the easternmost labelled locality on the whole map, found within the yellow-green (i.e., primarily Orthodox) region centered around Braslaw (Браславъ).

The Jewish Encyclopedia does this with other localities as well. For example, the entries for Dusyaty (Dusetos; Russian: Дусяты Dusyaty) and Eiragoly (Ariogala; Yiddish: אייראַגאָלע Eyragole) also redirect the reader to Kovno, and the entry for Eishishki (Eišiškės) points to Wilna.

What's even more confusing is the online version of the Jewish Encyclopedia hosted on StudyLight.org, cited in the previous RfD discussion, which includes full entries for these redirect entries that just transclude the content of the redirect target, without any indication that this is what's happening. Thus, the entry for Druisk is identical to the entry for Kovno, except for the header; the same applies to Eishishki and Wilna, and so forth.

Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, I would like to solidify the argument for deletion by showing that other written sources that talk about “Druisk” are in fact referring to the city in present-day Belarus and not using it as a synonym for Kaunas.

  • Cholawsky, Shalom (1998). The Jews of Bielorussia During World War II. Routledge. ISBN 9057021935.
    "Druisk" is mentioned alongside other towns in Belarus (e.g. Braslav, Glebokie, Dolhinov) and eastern Lithuania near the Belarusian border (e.g. Swienciany, Podbrodzh). None of these locations are near Kaunas.
  • Lokotko, Aleksandr; et al. (2013). Tourist Mosaic of Belarus. Belaruskaya navuka. ISBN 978-5-457-63663-7.
    “Druisk” is described as being in the region of Braslaw, listed alongside other nearby Belarusian localities such as Opsa and Ukolsk. Again, this description definitely does not apply to Kaunas.

By the way, in the course of researching this, I also noticed that Eiragoly → Eiguliai is probably another incorrect redirect. As mentioned above, this refers to Ariogala (here's a source to support the identification), not the Eiguliai neighborhood of Kaunas whose name is pretty different anyway. I hypothesize that the author of this redirect also created it based on the Jewish Encyclopedia, but in that case tried to make sense of it by finding a part of Kaunas with a somewhat similar name.

98.170.164.88 (talk) 07:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

June 9[edit]

ClockworkSoul/Templates[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: Speedy deleted per WP:CSD#G7

Historic church[edit]

Anyone using this term is likely looking for the general topic of historic church buildings rather than this specific church. Historic building is itself a redirect to List of heritage registers. I'm ambivalent regarding whether this redirect should also point there or just be deleted. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:25, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[]

  • Don't keep as is This is a {{R from move}}, the target article was created at this title and stayed there for 7 weeks but that was back in 2006. While it will surprised nobody to learn that "historic church" appears in many, many articles it surprised me to learn that the redirect and its target are the only times it appears in the title of pages in the article namespace. I'm honestly torn between retargetting to the list of heritage registers (on the grounds that it's better to keep the revision history where we can, and that is a better target than the current one) or deleted (on the basis that it's too generic a title to be a good disambig and the heritage registers list is two steps removed from the search term so not the most helpful). I don't support keeping it as it is, but that's about the only thing I'm sure of. Thryduulf (talk) 23:08, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[]
  • Comment -- History of the church exists (as a redirect to History of the Church). Historical church does not exist. Church history and Church History both exist, but as separate pages! — Godsy (TALKCONT) 19:43, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

First f Great Western[edit]

An extremely unlikely search term and a typo that even cannot be accidentally done. Just note that First Great Western was the former name of the current Great Western Railway JuniperChill (talk) 21:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC) [edited 09:50, 29 May 2024 UTC][]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Which pages should be deleted, if at all?
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Keep all - As Thryduulf points out the "First f" redirect is likely based on the logo, that looks exactly like a stylised "First f Great Western", which someone could think is the name of the company. "First Greater Western" is the real name of the company, as said above. I've found some reference to "First Great Western Express" being at some point a rebrand of some First Great Western service. Redirects are cheap and it's clear what topic they are aiming for. BugGhost🪲👻 18:57, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Pituophis melanoleucus melanoleucus[edit]

The subspecies of P. m. melanoleucus is distinct from P. melanoleucus; for example, see P. melanoleucus's range vs. P. m. melanoleucus's range. As a result it is harmful to have a redirect from one to the other; this would imply that they are the same. ReadItAlready (talk) 13:22, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[]

  • Keep as the Pituophis melanoleucus article is currently the best place to direct readers for information on P. melanoleucus ssp. melanoleucus. It distinguishes the subspecies of this snake and even describes differences in the ranges of the subspecies. ― Synpath 03:46, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Daniel Edwards (name) (disambiguation)[edit]

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

The target is not a list of articles that might otherwise be called "Daniel Edwards (name)". Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:39, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Bharatiya Janata Party's appointment of Narendra Modi as Prime Ministerial candidate for the 2014 Indian general election[edit]

This title is way too long. It's irrelevant and not appropriate for normal search for the short and up to the point target — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 09:39, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[]

The Hollies' Greatest Hits (1968 West German album)[edit]

I can't find anything in Enwiki about a 1968 album, here, or at The Hollies discography (which in any case would be a better target). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:27, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Retarget per Thryduulf - looks like that's the intended article BugGhost🪲👻 09:07, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]
  • Delete. Hollies' Greatest is a British album released by Parlophone. Per the edit history, the West German album was released by Hansa Records. The track listings are also different, which all but confirms these are different pressings. -- Tavix (talk) 16:12, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Kangal (dog) (disambiguation)[edit]

There is only one article about "Kangal" in the context of dogs: Kangal Shepherd Dog, to which Kangal (dog) and Kangal Dog now redirect. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:16, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Redirect per nom BugGhost🪲👻 19:00, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Glory Hallelujah[edit]

Fairly common phrase (I thought of Battle Hymn of the Republic); redirect to this relatively obscure song would likely be surprising. May merit a disambig page instead. Rusalkii (talk) 00:27, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Disambiguate or retarget?
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Mandie (name) (disambiguation)[edit]

The target is not a list of articles that might otherwise be called "Mandie (name)". Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:53, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Erdschias-Gebiet[edit]

Delete per WP:RLOTE and the fact that Anatolia is not known in German as "Erdschias-Gebiet." Mia Mahey (talk) 01:46, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[]

June 8[edit]

Bui Quoc Huy[edit]

Redirect is protected, discussion created on behalf of 2600:6C44:117F:95BE:9460:4DA2:ADC1:9976. Their request was the following: Bui Quoc Huy and Bùi Quang Huy are 2 different names in Vietnamese. They're not interchangeable names. Bui Quoc Huy page should not be a redirect page. It should be deleted and applied article creation protection afterwards due to persistent sock activities in the past. Those socks have been trying to write a PR article on Bui Quoc Huy for years in Vietnamese Wikipedia too. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Smagzine for more information. This page is a direct result of a sock master. It was later turned into a redirect page. Tollens (talk) 19:30, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I'm relisting this as it hasn't been previously noted that the page has an extensive edit history and was discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bui Quoc Huy which concluded in favour of this redirect.
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@Discospinster, Doomsdayer520, Onel5969, and Seraphimblade: pinging the participants and closer of the AfD. Thryduulf (talk) 17:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Template:Wikiproject WikiProject Colombian Departments[edit]

Double "WikiProject" in the name. Not a plausible search nor a shortcut. Gonnym (talk) 14:16, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Delete Implausible search term. I guess it is ineligible for speedy deletion since it is over a decade old. Ca talk to me! 16:23, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Template:WikiProject WikiProject Religious Buildings, Architecture and Monasticism[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: speedy deleted by MSGJ

Hornless unicorn[edit]

Unicorns are not real. The article makes no mention of unicorns. It would be impossible for a hornless unicorn to be a horse because that would require a fictional creature variant to be real, which it is not and never will be. The target page does not mention unicorns in the slightest. Anyone that specifies "unicorn" instead of "horse" is likely looking for a unicorn related subtopic, instead of the general WP:SYNTH explanation for horse. Unicorn, Unicorn horn, or deletion are all preferable outcomes for this title which currently exists unmentioned at the horse page. Utopes (talk / cont) 19:44, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Discussion is leaning delete but consensus could be clearer.
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It quite literally violates all of those policies almost immediately in each's first paragraph. You're saying that original research isn't original research as long as it's not derogatory? Per WP:OR policy, "On Wikipedia, original research means material for which no reliable, published source exists." Pseudo-science isn't derogatory either, but it sure is filled with original research most of the time. Is there a derogatory-clause that makes certain types of OR more acceptable than others as long as its nice enough? Per WP:V policy, "All material in Wikipedia mainspace must be verifiable from a reliable source". If you can find a reliable source that hornless unicorns are horses (and by extension that unicorns exist for hornless versions to exist), and can insert that into the article or even as a note on the redirect itself, that would actually be miraculous. WP:FRINGE is generous because that means that there's people out there studying a division of Unicorn Biology and can give a basis that hornless unicorns are indeed horses, but indeed per the WP:FRINGE guideline, "Wikipedia is not and must not become the validating source for non-significant [fringe theories]". What other reputable source is saying that hornless unicorns and horses are basically the same thing, if not Wikipedia? Wikipedia is not meant to spread "common sense" about what's left after taking the horn off of a unicorn, but only spread information that has been reported on by reliable sources. Wholly inappropriate redirect without mention. If you think it's a search term that's fine but it's current target is a major pseudo-scientific no-go across several layers. Utopes (talk / cont) 23:01, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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June 7[edit]

Various old redirects by Ecksemmess[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

Shivani Pawar ( Indian Wrestler )[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

Simone (singer)[edit]

Disambiguate Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: disambiguate

Partisan movement[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 14#Partisan movement

Aeia[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

P♯[edit]

Previous target P Sharp was PRODded. No mention of anything related to P♯ in the current target. Either delete or retarget to ♯P. Nickps (talk) 13:14, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Pelican Island (Western Australia) (disambiguation)[edit]

There is only one article about a Penguin Island in Western Australia, Pelican Island (Kimberley coast), so delete. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:07, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Jog Road[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

Discrimination against women[edit]

Retarget Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: retarget

Office Shūji Abe[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

GWR network[edit]

Where could this possibly lead to? The original GWR (current target), the modern one, GWR (disambiguation), Great Western Railway (disambiguation). Who knows... Otherwise, it can be deleted since its too ambiguaious JuniperChill (talk) 12:39, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Further thoughts on the retargeting proposal?
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Oh, do not cry. Be good children and we will all meet in Heaven.[edit]

There are numerous variations of what the subject apparently said on his death bed, with only some close to this topic title. That said, I can't see how two full sentences would ever be a useful search term and it isn't even the one used in the subject's article. I'd question it even if the quote was closer to what is most commonly reported. Bungle (talk • contribs) 17:26, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[]

With respect to where the sense of the quote probably came from:
The most authoritative secondary source is Remini. His in-depth three volume biography as saying: Where is my daughter and Marion, God will take care of you for me. I am my God’s. I belong to him, I go but a short time before you, and I want to meet you all in heaven, both white and black. Then a bit later...What is the matter with my Dear children, have I alarmed your Oh, do not cry—be good children and we will all meet in heaven.
Remini's primary source is a letter written by Andrew Jackson Jr. to Alfred Nicholsen, which was written 9 days after Andrew Jackson, Sr.'s death. A version of this letter is available in JSTOR from the 1947 Tennessee Historical Quarterly.
An early alternative is from Jackson's first biographer, Parton, who published his work in 1860, 15 years after Jackson's death. He quotes Hannah Jackson as stating: Be good children, and we will all meet in heaven. Wtfiv (talk) 22:29, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Redirects misusing the sharp symbol[edit]

These redirects use the Sharp symbol from Unicode to stand for the WP:FORBIDDEN character #. Not only is this semantically wrong, but it also doesn't help with search results because the two characters are not considered equivalent. Delete the above per WP:RFD#D8. If people think such redirects are needed, they can be recreated using the fullwidth ＃ instead. This is common practice as can be seen if one types the regular # in the search box and actually does what it's supposed to. Nickps (talk) 18:35, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Hirzayi[edit]

Recent implausible misnomer (I get zero Google search results for "hirzayi"). Move redirect created because of a recent reverted move by confirmed sock Al Shaykh Al Kasuri of blocked user SheryOfficial. The article was at this title for 1 hour and 20 minutes on 3 June, and the title did not previously exist as a redirect (see lack of entries on the deletion log). (Speedy deletion declined when I tagged it as G5, R3 with an explanation similar to the above.) SilverLocust 💬 06:17, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[]

The social brain hypothesis[edit]

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Ford Pinto Pangra[edit]

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Xi variant[edit]

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Science Update[edit]

Not mentioned at the target article, leaving the connection between the redirect and the target subject unclear. Steel1943 (talk) 05:14, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[]

Seems to be related to a website called Science Update. Their about page states that they are an "re-incarnation" of an AAAS-produced radio show of the same name. Ca talk to me! 09:02, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[]
Few minutes of searching around on old newspapers in newspapers.com did not give anything substantial, though I did find a Boston Globe Issue. With the Common Sense Media source, a mention might be able to be added. Ca talk to me! 13:33, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Elephant population[edit]

Procedural nomination for speedy deletion candidate, as requested at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 May 17. jp×g🗯️ 03:07, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[]

Keep Simple search term leads to a section that has detailed information about the search term. This is textbook redirect usage. Ca talk to me! 09:06, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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I've changed Proboscidean to elephant, which matches the title. -- Tavix (talk) 21:07, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Under the influence of alcohol[edit]

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Xavier Ribes[edit]

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Electric Turbo[edit]

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Nonius connector[edit]

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"Alcohol expectations" and "Alcohol expectancies"[edit]

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June 5[edit]

Wikipedia:BOOKLINKS[edit]

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Tom (programming language)[edit]

Tom and List of programming languages only lists one programming language called Tom or TOM – Tom (pattern matching language) – so I suggest retarget, delete, delete. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:47, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[]

mwwv converse∫edits 16:10, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[]
WP:PANDORA should not be used; see user:Lunamann/Please, put Pandora back in the box
That said, support these actions; save for the citing of WP:PANDORA, all of this seems correct to me. (WP:CONSISTENT can support the deletion of TOM computer language on its own.) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 20:35, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Macra (rivers)[edit]

As far as I can see, there's only one river known (in Roman times) as Macra, and that's Magra (and even that claim is unsourced). I've removed a claim at the translated page Maira (river) because it isn't present in the source of the translation [[28]]. And anyway Macra (river) is red, so delete both these redirects. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:31, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Karli Smith[edit]

Victims of a shooting generally do not have articles unless they become notable in their own right. It isn't appropriate to associate a search term of their names with an event which took their life. The individuals would already appear in search results on the event article without the need of an explicit redirect. I am unsure if there is specific policy around this, as WP:VICTIM merely mentions outright articles specifically. Bungle (talk • contribs) 09:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[]

well other victims of shootings typically get redirected to the shooting article. Sandy Hook Elementary school shooting for example. Victims such as Allison Wyatt, Grace McDonnell etc have redirects. Elizzaflanagan221 (talk) 12:28, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[]
Your argument that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is poor and is not in itself a reason why the aforementioned should be kept as redirects. We have to ask for what benefit and purpose does an article or redirect serve in its existence? I don't see any value in these redirects and as the victims are all deceased, cannot decide themselves if they'd want their identities associated with such an atrocity. I don't see any policy specific to this circumstance, which is probably why there is no agreed precedent. Bungle (talk • contribs) 13:24, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[]
well like i said, most articles on mass tragedy events have redirects with the victims names. If you think its morally wrong or u dont agree with it, you should make this a bigger discussion and not just solely on the FedEx shooting. Elizzaflanagan221 (talk) 17:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[]
I hear what you're saying, but a poor existing precedent (generally speaking) isn't necessary justification to pursue further of a similar nature. That is the reason I brought them to rfd, as it's a community decision, not solely my own view. As for the bigger discussion, maybe it is warranted, but it's quite a minefield and this only concerns these redirects yet to be reviewed. If the consensus is to keep, then it's a moot point anyway, though in such a scenario i'd hope to see a better rationale than "others exist too". Bungle (talk • contribs) 21:54, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[]
Existing precedent is the primary source of policies and guidelines, assuming that the policies Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines and Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not are to be believed. If we have no written rule against it, and it is frequently done, then it probably is the community's normal practice to do this. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:18, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[]

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  • Delete. I'm surprised there isn't a clear policy on this. We should be guided by WP:RPURPOSE. If the victim's name is widely known enough that "Killing of EXAMPLE" is a plausible article title and existing redirect, then I accept a redirect from "EXAMPLE" as well, because it is a plausible way that a reader might search for the relevant article, eg. Philando Castile, Jeff Doucet. Otherwise, I think we should avoid these redirects. I hold this position even, and maybe even especially, if the person is approaching notability for an article in their own right for reasons unrelated to their death. If there are other relevant articles on their life apart from their death, we don't want to usurp those by redirecting rather than showing search results. Daask (talk) 22:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Stubby (Pokémon)[edit]

funny, but i found nothing suggesting that this was ever even speculated to be its name cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[]

it just occurred to me that "stubby" is an actual word
which means i should look for any mention of a bidoof with that nickname, which is worse than looking for a pokémon with that name for its species cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[]
Checked Bulbapedia. According to them, while there are no in-game trades featuring a Bidoof named Stubby in any generation, in the Sinnoh games, you can enter a Super Contest and end up facing down a Pokemon with the nickname "Stubby."
The issue is that Stubby is a Barboach, not a Bidoof. This is true in both Gen 4 and Gen 8. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 21:04, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Delete - Doing some edit history sleuthing it looks like the original redirect came from pokemon fans reading a (blurry pre-release leaked?) photo of bidoof, and seeing the word "stubby". See Talk:Bidoof#Bidoof and Stubby. The Bidoof article was briefly moved over to Stubby, then moved back when the name "Bidoof" was officially confirmed. Seeing as the redirect was based on WP:OR, it doesn't seem to be getting any use, and the fact there's another pokemon related to the name "stubby" (as Lunamann pointed out above), it should be deleted. BugGhost🪲👻 09:30, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Magburn[edit]

fan speculation for its english name, on the same vein as laxbe which i nominated a little under (or was it over?) a month ago. unlike laxbe, i found a few results, but they pretty solidly established this as a fan name that was dropped in favor of its admittedly inferior official name cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[]

Keep if a reference to this as a fan-name is added. If it has a few results it seems to be a decently plausible search target, however niche. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:13, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Arzeus[edit]

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Zoznam.sk[edit]

A redirect to Seznam.cz seems inappropriate given that these are two completely different websites. Zoznam.sk looks more like a tabloid than independent source, and I can't find any evidence that both sites are owned by the same agency/publisher. I would suggest to delete and leave as an empty page until someone did a research about the site with proper references. Clara A. Djalim (talk) 10:12, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Croangunk[edit]

implausible misspelling? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:27, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Bunkin Bonuts[edit]

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Untitled Guy Ritchie project/film[edit]

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Untitled Beetlejuice sequel[edit]

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LGBTP[edit]

See page history. It's clearly not the creator's intention but this redirect implies Wikipedia considers the title to be an alternative term for LGBT, which is extremely undesirable to say the least. J947 ‡ edits 02:55, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Redirect as per lizthegrey only if the information Liz mentions is added to the article. If not, delete as per Maplestrip/Mable. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 13:26, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[]

References

  1. ^ "Fact check: The LGBTQ community is not adding "P" to their acronym". Reuters. 2 June 2020. Retrieved 5 June 2024.
  2. ^ Caldera, Camille (30 July 2020). "Fact check: LGBTQ community rejects false association with pedophiles". USA TODAY. Retrieved 5 June 2024.
  3. ^ Artavia, David (30 July 2020). "Trolls Push Fake Acronym 'LGBTP' to Associate Gays With Pedophilia". www.advocate.com. Retrieved 5 June 2024.

Geegle Earth[edit]

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Technogypsie[edit]

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Raisi[edit]

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INDIA[edit]

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Surfjam Steve[edit]

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Kakaka[edit]

Kakaka isn't necessarily an evil laugh, as much as kekeke or jajaja aren't. It is an onomatopoeia of kkk in Brazil, derived from quá-quá-quá, according to Wiktionary. Soares2000 (talk) 17:05, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Sweartgar[edit]

Delete: This is supposed to be a variant of Sverker, a name for two Swedish kings. However, no reliable sources seem to use this name. From the article Sverker I of Sweden, this was deleted already in 2013 due to lack of sources. There have been similar issues with other articles related to names of medieval Swedes, see e.g. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richardice of Sweden. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 12:16, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Stressed out[edit]

This redirect has targeted Psychological stress, Stressed Out (disambiguation) and Stressed Out, the Twenty One Pilots song. Its was pointing to the DAB from 2019 until last month and I changed it back to the DAB today. In terms of the discussions it seems there is a consensus that the Twenty One Pilots song is primary for the title case version per WP:DIFFCAPS, see discussions at Talk:Stressed Out and an older one at Talk:Stressed Out (A Tribe Called Quest song)#Requested move 26 November 2015. In terms of Psychological stress I understand we aren't a dictionary but at the same time it could be argued that its safest to disambiguate the lower case. In terms of the options, option A, target Twenty One Pilots song, option B, target DAB, option C, target Psychological stress. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:31, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Pussy in bio[edit]

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Khogyani (article disambiguation)[edit]

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Valinor Hills Station[edit]

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Rich young man[edit]

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2025 United Kingdom general election[edit]

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Gastrosexual[edit]

Not mentioned. Retarget to wikt:gastrosexual if there's no mention anywhere else. --MikutoH talk! 04:51, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Population 0[edit]

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June 3[edit]

Roman Catholid Diocese of Down and Connor[edit]

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WWE Day 1[edit]

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Glasgow Seltic[edit]

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Rani Mukerji Chopra[edit]

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Alia Bhatt Kapoor[edit]

Subject is not known by the name "Alia Bhatt Kapoor". A redirect such as this should not exist for married women who haven't changed/added their husband's name after marriage. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 18:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[]

The question isn't what they are "commonly" known as. We should not assume that a married women should take her husband's last name, and that extends to poorly researched sources that call her by that name simply because she's married. It's highly misogynistic, unless ya'll create the same redirects for Ranbir Kapoor Bhatt or Virat Kohli Sharma. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:23, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[]
It's not for me to assume whether a woman or man has taken up her/his spouse's last name. When sources write something down we simply follow, and redirects are meant to ease the navigation process. Unfortunately, "Ranbir Kapoor Bhatt" doesn't yield any results anywhere, but "Alia Bhatt Kapoor" does and if someone decides to look that name up here after coming across it somewhere else, the redirect will take them to the actual article. Keivan.fTalk 19:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[]
Sources can call an actor many things. In this source, Kareena Kapoor Khan is called KKK, as do other sources such as this and this. Does that mean KKK should redirect to her article? Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[]
Of course not, because obviously Ku Klux Klan is the primary topic. However, if the name they are using for the person is inherently unique, then I don't see why it can't serve a purpose as a redirect. Keivan.fTalk 19:37, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[]
Why does it have to be unique? KKK (actress) is unique enough for a redirect. All I'm saying is that there are many ways to call a celebrity, doesn't mean they should all be redirects, especially when it comes to giving women identities that's not theirs, which is exactly what's problematic in the case of "Alia Bhatt Kapoor". Krimuk2.0 (talk) 19:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Battles of Bohorodychne and Krasnopillia[edit]

Editor-coined term for a since-merged series of events. Not in usage anywhere outside of Wikipedia mirrors. SaintPaulOfTarsus (talk) 21:55, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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'Umar ibn Sahlan as-Sawi[edit]

I am not good at Islamic naming or there about but I can find any clue with this particular redirect. It is also a near close and unlikely when searched on web browsers. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:16, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Frances and Richard Lockridge[edit]

Frances Lockridge now has her own page separate from her husband Bookworm-ce (talk) 14:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[]

Would alternatively support proposal by Tavix. Unlike, for example, Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein II, who have extensive detail in their individual articles, independent of the Rodgers and Hammerstein collaboration, Frances Lockridge and Richard Lockridge are indeed proper candidates for a Frances and Richard Lockridge joint biography entry. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 17:02, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[]
Having created the Frances Lockridge article, merging the pages seems like an OK alternative, although Richard's career continued for a decade or two after Frances' death. I just would prefer not to have a joint page directing to Richard specifically, or have only Richard have his own page but not give Frances her own, which would feel dismissive of Frances. —Bookworm-ce (talk) 13:59, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[]
I'm not sure why we would need three pages where one is sufficient. -- Tavix (talk) 15:31, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[]
One may turn out to be sufficient, but I don't personally feel comfortable opining on that matter in this discussion; as (to me) it's more of an article content question than one regarding redirects, and due to the fact that the two pages in question aren't aware that a merger is being considered at this RfD. If the consensus at (e.g.) WP:PAM is to merge the articles, this proposed dab page would no longer exist - however, prior to such a merger (if one occurs), this disambiguation page would serve as a navigational aid. My view is therefore that RfD could dabify this redirect, but without prejudice to a merger discussion (which would, in my view, be better suited to make that determination). All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 15:51, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[]
Articleify into an article about their collaboration under a pen name. The articles with their individual biographies can be kept if they meet GNG outside of their collaboration, otherwise a full merge could work. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 18:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[]
There are a bunch of proposals here that involve outcomes outside the scope of RfD, and hence we can't force anyone to do any of those. What the RfD closing admin should do is delete and allow the merge/articlefy proposals to be done if someone actually does them. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:38, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Steve Lacy (musician)[edit]

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ELMatronmaker/sandbox2[edit]

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Substantial[edit]

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Pole (Venezuela)[edit]

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IRC +10414[edit]

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Kontra Code[edit]

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June 1[edit]

2023-24 Major Clubs Limited Over Tournament[edit]

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LATAM[edit]

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1930–31 Notre Dame Fighting Irish men's basketball team[edit]

Redirect should be deleted so editors know which seasons still need to be made, otherwise every season would be a redirect. poketape (talk) 21:45, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Wikipedia:Disney Jr.[edit]

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Wikipedia:ALEXA[edit]

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Matthew Hardwick[edit]

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The Mii Channel Theme[edit]

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Propaganda bullhorn[edit]

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British intelligence services[edit]

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List of canon law legal abbreviations[edit]

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Numbers (Mellowhype Album) "Numbers" (Mellowhype)[edit]

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Hangkong[edit]

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May 31[edit]

Nu variant[edit]

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Sangerpedia[edit]

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Face cancer[edit]

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Astounding[edit]

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P♯[edit]

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イ・エヌ・ブロンシュテイン[edit]

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Connecticut Book Awards[edit]

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New England Book Awards[edit]

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Oggcast[edit]

Whatever mention that was in the podcast article was removed in 2020 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=942832128 Okmrman (talk) 20:31, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Article-ify using information that ended up removed from the Podcast article by user:Danbloch in 2020 as per the edit pointed out by user:Jay. The reason that the section on Oggcasts was removed from the article was due to WP:BALASP, not because the information was non-notable. I also wouldn't be opposed to using said info to add enough information to Ogg or Vorbis to justify a Retarget. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 11:19, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[]
It's also non-notable. It may have been of more interest when the content was introduced in 2011, I don't know. But there are no recent mentions. Dan Bloch (talk) 17:36, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[]
What does recent mentions have to do with anything? Usually wikipedians prefer older things to be written about, rather than WP:RECENTISM... Fieari (talk) 23:39, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[]
A fair point, but as I see it, it's the 2011 flurry of edits that was WP:RECENTISM and WP:TOOSOON. Oggcast did not take the world by storm. Note that it started out as a standalone article, and it had a "may not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline" tag then. Dan Bloch (talk) 18:13, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Germany 2024[edit]

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May 30[edit]

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Foreign Semendyayev redirects[edit]

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Office Shuji Abe[edit]

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CS2[edit]

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Redirects misusing the sharp symbol[edit]

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Oh, do not cry. Be good children and we will all meet in Heaven.[edit]

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Technofascism and Techno-fascism[edit]

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Hisham Saleh[edit]

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Telephonics Corporation[edit]

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Wikipedia:WikiProject's Espionage, Intelligence and Mass surveillance collaboration[edit]

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GWR network[edit]

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Blagger[edit]

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Kim Un[edit]

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Donald Von ShitzInPantz[edit]

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Science Update[edit]

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Elephant population[edit]

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ANDSF[edit]

Likely primary topic is Afghan National Security Forces, not this internet protocol component. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:01, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[]

ANDSF (disambiguation) will likely be deleted unless it decided to be moved to this title. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:02, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[]
Its prod expired, so ANDSF (disambiguation) is no more mwwv converse∫edits 21:49, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Nonius connector[edit]

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May 28[edit]

Technogypsie[edit]

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First f Great Western[edit]

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Macra (rivers)[edit]

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Slime mould diseases[edit]

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Kakaka[edit]

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(List of) The Ocean's Trilogy (characters)[edit]

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Emo-Vader[edit]

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Sweartgar[edit]

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Stressed out[edit]

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F-Indy[edit]

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Windows 8.2[edit]

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Running water[edit]

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Moondru Mugam (2017 film)[edit]

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Kanye East[edit]

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May 27[edit]

Roman Catholid Diocese of Down and Connor[edit]

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Alcohol drinking[edit]

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Lisa Krueger[edit]

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Ford F-100 Eluminator[edit]

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WWE Day 1[edit]

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NCAA men's ice hockey tournament[edit]

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Pole (Venezuela)[edit]

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Shams ud Duha (disambiguation)[edit]

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Baak (Telugu Film)[edit]

Indian films sometimes do this thing were they reshoot 10% or less of the film in another language. Either way, there is absolutely no need for this redirect when Baak (film) exists. only 10% or less of people interest seeing Aranmanai 4 will likely opt to see this version due to low key release. DareshMohan (talk) 05:39, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[]

Delete: I think this is the same film as Baakghost. It looks like there is no point for this. Cleo Cooper (talk) 06:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC) (Striking account globally locked as an LTA ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 16:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC))[]
Delete per nom. Okmrman (talk) 04:23, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[]
Delete Baak (film) already exists, no point in moving stuff around. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:32, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Baak film redirects[edit]

Both of these redirects have no point. Both these redirects (Baakghost and Baak (Telugu film)) along with Baak (Telugu Film) were initially created by SenthilGugan as Articles for the Telugu dubbed version of Aranmanai 4. After seeing no need for another article, when there's already a primary article and an Afd the pages were turned to redirects. But, there is no need these many redirects, as not even the Google recognizes these names. I only included two redirects because, the other one has already been Rfded. 𝓥𝓮𝓼𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓪𝓷24𝓑𝓲𝓸 (ᴛᴀʟᴋ) 11:16, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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My comments remain the same. Hopefully this is no longer a dispute. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:32, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[]
I also agree that an apparent consensus seems to have been reached. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:23, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[]

Cedar Ridge Middle School[edit]

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Hyperstar[edit]

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Unlabeled[edit]

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Box 850[edit]

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May 23[edit]

Pomosexuality[edit]

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Hamich[edit]

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Astounding incident[edit]

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Astounding[edit]

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Astonishing[edit]

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Turkish bath[edit]

The target of this redirect should likely be reconsidered. The most helpful solution may to turn this into a DAB, merging with Turkish Bath (disambiguation). Reason: The term "Turkish bath" in a Western context is fairly generic and might also denote other types of steam baths, in addition to the mainly Islamic ones covered at Hammam. Since this was last discussed in 2021 (see here), a more fully-fledged Victorian Turkish bath article now exists. Other articles might also be relevant to link. Note: This came out of a discussion at Talk:Turkish Bath (disambiguation) between myself and Ishpoloni. Feel free to read there for more context & explanation. R Prazeres (talk) 00:17, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[]

Hammam is neither primary nor secondary. Hammam and Victorian Turkish baths only have in common that they are baths, and are both derived from the ancient Roman thermae. Victorian Turkish baths are not steam baths. Nor are they really, as the Hammam article states, "A variation on the Muslim bathhouse"—which is why in France and Germany they are called Roman-Irish baths.
The only guiding principle here should be: 'Save the time of the reader' Ranganathan's 4th law. Ishpoloni (talk) 13:53, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[]
On Wikipedia, we follow our own policies and guidelines, not library science (for better or for worse, I can't say). The guideline for how to deal with ambiguous terms (like Turkish bath) is WP:D. The first step is to determine whether there is a primary topic. One way to do that is to look at page traffic. The page traffic for Hammam shows that most people get to that page via an "other-search", such as searching for the term "Turkish bath" via an external search engine, but that only 15% of people then click away to Victorian Turkish baths from that article. We can infer that most readers were, in fact, looking for Hammam when they searched "Turkish bath". We can also look at comparative pageviews, which shows that Hammam gets far more views than Victorian Turkish baths. Then, if we've determined a primary topic, the guideline tells us to redirect the ambiguous term to that page, with hatnotes to the appropriate disambiguation pages. voorts (talk/contributions) 17:39, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[]
Reasons:
1. Of the 22 reasons for a redirect given on Wikipedia:Redirect the overwhelming majority relate to different forms of words, grammar, punctuation, etc. Not one exemplifies a redirect of one subject to another subject.[a]
2. On Wikipedia:Disambiguation page the three important points seem to be:
(a) naming articles so each has an unique title, eg, Hammam and Victorian Turkish baths;
(b) making links so that a term points to the correct article;
(c) "Ensuring that a reader who searches for a topic using a particular term can get to the information on that topic quickly and easily, whichever of the possible topics it might be." (My emphasis)
Proposed resolution:
Change the current Redirect into a DAB, merging with Turkish Bath (disambiguation)
An allied matter:
In case there are Western European readers of this Wikipedia, there should be Redirects < Irish-Roman baths and < Roman-Irish baths > Victorian Turkish baths. Ishpoloni (talk) 07:46, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[]
  1. ^ For any newcomer to the discussion, 'Victorian Turkish baths' is not a subdivision of 'Hammam', Hammam being an Islamic steam bath and Victorian Turkish baths being Victorian (Roman-Irish) baths using hot dry air. Both are direct descendants of the Roman thermae.

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A. The identification of a primary topic only seems to apply when there are synonyms for the terms used to name a specific subject, or for grammatical clarifications (see Reason 1 in my previous reply).
B. When there are two completely different and separate subjects, ie, Hammam & Victorian Turkish baths, there cannot be a "primary topic" simply because both are types of hot-air bath, any more than there can be a "primary topic" between Apple & Pear simply because both are types of fruit.
C. Wikipedia's object in the case of multiple subjects (see 2.c above) is to enable readers to speedily find the subject wanted, whichever one it is.
D. The current situation where a reader, perhaps the (wo)man on the Clapham omnibus rather than an academic, seeks information on Turkish baths and is willy-nilly diverted to an article on hammams—and so may never discover the existence of an article on Victorian Turkish baths—cannot be equitable, or helpful.
E. The solution suggested above by R Prazeres to retarget to Turkish Bath (disambiguation) not only follows Wikipedia principles, but provides the speediest route to either of the two subjects sought. It should now be adopted as a win-win solution for both subjects, and will in practice lead readers to articles on subjects they may not previously have come across.Ishpoloni (talk) 10:19, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[]
The argument in B is off-base, as these two topics can both be referred to as "Turkish bath" in colloquial English. signed, Rosguill talk 19:52, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[]

LATAM[edit]

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Draft:2025 IndyCar Series[edit]

Redirect in draftspace created as a result of disruptive article creation by an IP user over an existing redirect, and NPP not reverting the disruptive edits, but instead draftifying their "work" (which consisted of a lazy, unreferenced stub). Suggest deletion. ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)  13:20, 16 May 2024 (UTC) HistSplit per 2601:5CC:.... ― "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)  03:22, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[]

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Severa[edit]

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Oncorhynchus mykiss ssp?[edit]

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Yin-Yuan[edit]

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Aromantisch[edit]

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Consecutive games[edit]

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Ron Johnson (rapper)[edit]

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May 22[edit]

2020 Games[edit]

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Islamic Insurgency in Somalia (2007-Present)[edit]

Not appropriate for a "2007-present" redirect to point to events from a decade ago. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:21, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[]

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Probably delete per nom. Okmrman (talk) 04:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[]

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I'm not in favour of Thryduulf's solution as having "Present" in the redirect would be misleading per nom. Jay 💬 08:07, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Any misconceptions will be cleared up by reading the target. We don't help readers by making it harder for them to find the content they are looking for or by needlessly breaking old links - indeed that makes it more likely that misconceptions will remain uncorrected. Thryduulf (talk) 09:08, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[]
By that logic, incorrect redirects never ought to be deleted by virtue of being old. Jay 💬 20:08, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[]
Being old is always a reason to be cautious when deleting redirects (it's why R3 is limited to recently-created redirects) because there is a greater likelihood of incoming links that will be broken (and breaking links is a bad thing). However being old is not a reason on it's own to keep a redirect, just as being incorrect is not a reason on it's own to delete one. We have to balance whether it is plausible that someone will use the incorrect redirect and if so whether we have anywhere appropriate to take people. In this case it's very plausible that they will be using the redirect, not only by following links from when the conflict was still ongoing but also because they could be conflating two different conflicts in Somalia (for a variety of reasons). The disambiguation page will educate them that they have followed an outdated link and/or misremembered what is happening and take them to whichever encyclopaedia article it was they wanted to read (where they will be further educated about the topic) without having to navigate search results (which may be several clicks/taps away) and which are not guaranteed to contain the relevant article(s).
It is not true that this will apply to every redirect that is both old and incorrect - we need to evaluate each of them on their own merits, but this is why they are discussed at RfD rather than speedily deleted. Thryduulf (talk) 10:16, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[]
  • Retarget to the War in Somalia disambiguation page where anyone using these search terms (or, more likely, following old links) can find whichever conflict they want to read about. Thryduulf (talk) 12:27, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[]

1930–31 Notre Dame Fighting Irish men's basketball team[edit]

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Anglo-Chinese School(Independent)[edit]

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Angel Eyes (Lime)(song)[edit]

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UA (India)[edit]

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Shihab Chottur (walker)[edit]

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Champcar[edit]

Delete as the redirect is ambiguous. Champ car is a type of racing car; Champ Car was a motorsport sanctioning body. In addition, the talk page for Champcars leads not to Champ Car World Series, but to Championship Auto Racing Teams. These were two separate organizations. RegalZ8790 (talk) 20:27, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[]

Retain. The CCWS was the successor via bankruptcy of CART. In fact, the "Champ Car World Series" name was used by CART as the name of the series it sanctioned for the last season before the bankruptcy filing by CART, purchase of its assets by a group of team owners and reorganization under the CCWS name. The first question is was the split of the article (it used to be one article at Champ Car before the separate CCWS article was split out and the other article moved to the CART name) really necessary? I'd lean yes because it's a logical point for a break under summary style, not necessarily because of the legal structures (there was much more continuity than break in operations).
So the question then becomes which article is the best target for the "Champ Car" redirect (the redirects here are just alternate spellings and should point to the same place). Well, "Champ Car" was the common short name of the CCWS organization and likely primary meaning of the term. The general category of American open-wheel racing is most commonly known as IndyCar, but CART couldn't use that anymore after the Indy Racing League split (CART did use the name before, calling their series the IndyCar World Series prior to 1996) so they went with the more obscure Champ Car term after the split, but it didn't become part of the organization's name until the reorganization. As long as Champ Car redirects to the CCWS article, we should be consistent with spelling variations. oknazevad (talk) 23:35, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[]
Does Wikipedia need the unused redirects? At what point do the spelling variations simply become misspellings? Champ car, Champ Car, Champ cars, and Champ Cars already exist as redirects, in addition to a plethora of others.
But my point is that there is no obvious destination for the redirects I originally listed. They are grammatically incorrect, and could be taken by an editor to mean either a type of car, OR the sanctioning body. Using a small 'c' for car, they should probably direct to the AOWR page, but as one 'word' they are simply incorrect spellings, and I am questioning why they need to exist. RegalZ8790 (talk) 00:01, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[]
ChampCar and ChampCars also exist. Probably because IndyCar is properly written as one word prior editors assumed Champ Car was as well. WP:REDIRECTSARECHEAP, so there's no particular harm in having the non-CamelCase versions kept as well. oknazevad (talk) 20:46, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[]
The harm is that the redirects I have placed for discussion facilitate sloppy, ambiguous writing. RegalZ8790 (talk) 04:05, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[]
Delete per nom due to ambiguous term. Okmrman (talk) 04:05, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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Face cancer[edit]

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Population 0[edit]

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Bird Pokémon[edit]

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Dulah, CA[edit]

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Odiogo[edit]

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Look how they massacred my boy[edit]

This redirect is categorized as follows: A meme quotation from film and television, that is not mentioned at the article. Wikipedia is not an infinite compendium of unmentioned memes. Not a helpful redirect as people who want to read about The Godfather would search for The Godfather. Specifying a meme implies a search for specific content that we don't have on WP. Delete. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:23, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[]

Support, how often do people search for films via quotes? Regardless a simple search engine search will tell them the film's title and they can search for the title from there. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[]

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  • Keep: it's a page about a meme (memes are frequently notable, or later become so) and it redirects to what the context is.
jp×g🗯️ 18:55, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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DZHH-AM[edit]

Not mentioned at target. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:19, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[]

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If it's not appropriate to mention it at the target (for reasons Lenticel and others said) then why is it appropriate to subtly hint that it is in some vague way related without explaining how and leaving people confused. That's just mentioning it by the back door. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:18, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[]

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The Big One (earthquake)[edit]

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Harley Quinn (pornographic actor)[edit]

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Bartleby Project[edit]

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