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The result was redirect to How We Gonna Make the Black Nation Rise? as a sensible ATD. Owen× ☎ 08:51, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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I just attempted to find sourcing for this article in effort to conduct wp:before and no significant citations exist that demonstrate wp:n. I would like to propose either a move to a larger article on reggae or outright deletion. This article has clearly been lingering for a very long time without any significant improvements. Variety312 (talk) 22:24, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete as lacking indepth sources. Stuartyeates (talk) 08:19, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - I think we should be careful about deleting this. It seems to have a significant cultural impact on rap and reggae. It has an entry here which is interesting, and at African American Research Perspectives [1], of which I can only see a small part. The label had one release which seems to be of particular significance [2]. I'm not finding enough coverage for a standalone article. Perhaps redirect to How We Gonna Make the Black Nation Rise?? It seems to be significant enough to WP:PRESERVE. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 19:37, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Owen× ☎ 11:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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I took a some time to dig sources and find the reason why this article meets WP:NSONG but can't find either. The song topped a non notable chart and hasn't been covered significantly in reliable news sources. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 09:20, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. The song fails WP:NSONG and has not been discussed in reliable sources. The artist himself isn't notable. Apple Music chart is not a reliable chart. Versace1608 Wanna Talk? 14:24, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: There's no mention of coverage in established news sources or discussions by music critics. Waqar💬 17:10, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep, because a redirect to Minz (a DAB that doesn't include the artist here) isn't an option. Native Mag has some coverage, and Bella Naija has an interview with Minz about the song. Walsh90210 (talk) 01:31, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- The Native magazine source you linked here is primarily about the artist and not the song. Although it mentions the song and is a useful source, it is not enough to warrant a stand-alone article. The song fails all of the criterion outlined in WP:NSONG. The Bella Naija source is an interview and isn't independent of the subject. Versace1608 Wanna Talk? 15:43, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as there does not appear to be significant coverage from third-party, reliable sources and there is not a viable redirect target. Aoba47 (talk) 19:23, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails WP:NSONG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 04:49, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Ceylan Ertem. Liz Read! Talk! 23:17, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:BAND — doesn't appear to have "been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself". Popcornfud (talk) 07:29, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: possibly redirect to lead singer Ceylan Ertem? The band is mentioned in her article, and she seems to be individually notable. I don't think this group itself passes WP:NBAND, having only released one album in their short career. Richard3120 (talk) 15:14, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Ceylan Ertem: As stated above, it's a short-lived band with little lasting coverage. I support a redirect to Ceylan Ertem but no prejudice to deletion in case the other members turn out to be individually notable, and their bios are created, redirecting to one of the members may be problematic. As this is not the case at this time, redirecting to the lead singer appears to be the most constructive. Aintabli (talk) 09:21, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Ceylan Ertem: I support the redirecting though without any prejudice whatsoever to deletion. Ertem was just the founder and sang only one song/album in the group, but that doesn't mean their is any credible thing to note about this band. The band doesn't meet WP:NBAND but I am quite certain why this shouldn't be straight delete since there was no SIGCOV during the existence and even, the disbanding. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 17:46, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 14:12, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources and what's linked in the article doesn't establish notability. Surprisingly, there isn't significant coverage of the group in Freax: The Brief History of the Demoscene, Volume 1 (2005) by Tamás Polgár ; "Andromeda" is mentioned 25 times, but in reference to the Norwegian demo group, not the Greek group that is the subject of the article. toweli (talk) 13:19, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. No trace of the demogroup in any remotely significant sources and I could not find any suitable sources that would be beneficial to the article. This should have been gone years ago. MimirIsSmart (talk) 09:21, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Liz Read! Talk! 20:48, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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This seems to be a case of WP:INHERITED notability, given people largely talk about him in relation to his father. I can't check two of the sources here (and one is a WP:NOBITS) but the one I could find, as well as my searches of the internet returned no new sources for WP:GNG. Allan Nonymous (talk) 19:36, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: I find this [3] and this [4] which I think is the same person that is the subject of the wiki article. Name or portions of the name seem to be very common, so it's hard to determine notability in sources. Oaktree b (talk) 00:40, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 23:52, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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This is a non-notable student society with the article being hung on the non-notable event of Taylor Swift sending something or other to the society. Tagishsimon (talk) 23:31, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: WP:INHERITORG This is, in essence, a celebrity fan club. It's not a new term for any fan club, but is more often used by British fan clubs. Movie stars and rock stars have had thses so-called "appreciation societies" for decades. — Maile (talk) 02:00, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: This topic is not really encyclopedic, this should be, at most, merged into a larger article on the Swift fandom such as Swifties. Whizkin (talk) 20:21, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Reads like fancruft. fails WP:GNG. The Banner talk 15:27, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Star Mississippi 02:11, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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Two different Carlos Malcolms, the other of whom invented Ska music, make it hard to source this one. Doesn't seem very notable though. — Iadmc♫talk 18:29, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak keep The article currently cites two sources. I think this article provides significant coverage. The book Cuban Music from A to Z has a passing mention on page 65 and a one-paragraph description on page 129. I can provide the excerpt if needed. I think it could be given similar weight to a dictionary of national biography, where inclusion alone indicates notability. I also found this, a statement from a Cuban embassy, and this SPS (possible from a subject-matter expert), which don't count for much. This isn't a lot, but he's definitely a real musician who's composed some stuff and has probably had some musical impact. Toadspike [Talk] 19:46, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- More marginally helpful sources: [5] (kinda self-published, again might be a SME), this (not sure if it's about the right guy). Toadspike [Talk] 19:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- I also found two mentions in this book chapter, one of which cites a paper as "Brouwer, “La vanguardia en la música cubana,” Boletín Música no. 1 (1970): 3". I cannot find that paper anywhere. Although these are just passing mentions, they confirm that Malcolm was part of the "1960s Cuban musical vanguardia" and moved to Poland (which was apparently common for Cuban musicians, as Poland was less "conservative" than alternatives in socialist Eastern Europe). Toadspike [Talk] 10:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Toadspike. Not sure how helpful these are as they are just passing mentions. Keep looking though! — Iadmc♫talk 10:27, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 14:34, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources and the article only links to primary sources. toweli (talk) 17:19, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
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The result was keep. There is a consensus to Keep this article and that sources in the article and those that have been brought up are sufficient. Liz Read! Talk! 03:33, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
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Her notability cannot be proven by independent and reliable sources. Only IFEX source is good, but it is not adequate for passing GNG. As a result of the research conducted on the person, it was not possible to find independent and reliable sources. Considering there are not enough resources, deletion is appropriate. Kadı Message 20:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep She is a notable singer, mostly known for musical performances in Kurdish. More than enough sources are available, from reliable news outlets like Rudaw, Evrensel, NTV, Hurriyet, Gazete Duvar
- TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 04:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- These are promotional content for promote her new album. These sources do not contribute for passing notability criterias. You can read trwiki discussion by translating in order to see the analysis. Best wishes. Kadı Message 09:34, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep as the references in the article and listed in the first AfD at the top left of this listing shows a pass of WP:GNG in my view, including a 25 minute radio programme about her. Also she still has an article on the Kurdish wikipedia, and the deletion on the Turkey wikipedia may have a political context, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:05, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Passes WP:SIGCOV per the sources above and those given in the first AFD. The claims that the sources are promotional are entirely spurious. These are independent mainstream media sources, not all of which are positive (such as the first source given above). The deletion on the Turkish Wikipedia does appear to have been politically motivated and based in a flawed and unethical argument not rooted in Wikipedia’s policies. That is concerning, and hopefully an admin on that wiki will do an AFD review on the Turkish wiki page. That article should be restored.4meter4 (talk) 14:11, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Liz Read! Talk! 03:11, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
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I am not sure how this article looked back in 2012 when the first AfD came about, but now the article is confusing because it doesn't seem to know whether it wants to be about Mr. Burrell alone or about him and his brother. At any rate, the article discusses a non-notable production team(?) whose own discography hasn't seen them ever having charted; and the list of albums that they supposedly produced for other artists isn't sourced. It doesn't help that the article reads like the brothers themselves wrote it. Erpert blah, blah, blah... 04:53, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. In 2012, the article looked pretty much the same as now. It still needs work, obviously, but WP:DELETIONISNOTCLEANUP. I see no reason to disagree with the earlier consensus on notability, which is not lost, and the adequate sourcing turned up in WP:BEFORE searches done during the first AfD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:56, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Beyond this [6], I don't find anything about this person or the pair of them. Oaktree b (talk) 02:57, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep exercising WP:AGF as in the first AfD linked at the top left of this discussion a respected editor Michig identified a number of book sources that convinced him it passed WP:GNG although a number of the links no longer work, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 21:59, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 14:37, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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Ambiguous term, unsourced and I found it difficult to find good sources to add. Boleyn (talk) 14:41, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Green Day discography#Extended plays. I don't see a real consensus here but I doubt that a final relisting will change the course of this discussion so I'm picking the clearest option mentioned. Liz Read! Talk! 01:54, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NALBUM and WP:GNG. Appears to have not charted or been covered by reliable sources - May be some Japanese coverage, but difficult to locate. Mdann52 (talk) 06:49, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep Stnh1206 (talk) 07:12, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Green Day discography#Extended plays: None of the coverage in the article is from reliable sources, and I found no reliable coverage. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 12:46, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: The Japanese title is Bakuhatsu Live! +5 and charted at number 45 on the Oricon Albums Chart. I wasn't able to find much in the way of reviews, but I admittedly only made a surface-level check (爆発ライブ!+5, if anyone wants to search further for sources). IanTEB (talk) 20:38, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for this info it helps me out. i will add this to the page Stnh1206 (talk) 00:18, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Someone has found a oricon article on this EP where it shows to have charted. number 8 on the reference page Stnh1206 (talk) 00:31, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment:Except it's not an EP, it's the same length and a longer track listing than the bands debut album. If it's redirected it should be to live albums, but if it's charted it shouldn't be redirected, just retitled.Hoponpop69 (talk) 13:04, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- The thing is tune in Tokyo is 33 minutes and it says it is a live ep Stnh1206 (talk) 20:09, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge to the target mentioned above. Prolonged discussion and scrutinty has produced relatively little. The reason it needs to be merged is that the discography page currently claims that Foot in Mouth did not chart in Japan. Geschichte (talk) 11:31, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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