Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Journalism
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Journalism
[edit]- Sascha Georges (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Cant't see any claim to notability; the band for which he sang is (imo) non-notable & up for deletion, otherwise I would redirect. TheLongTone (talk) 13:26, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Luxembourg. Shellwood (talk) 13:46, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, News presenter of the main TV channel in Luxembourg and of a famous band there as well…, for Luxembourg standards he is quite notable. V.B.Speranza (talk) 18:00, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- We are interested in sources that show that notability. We would be happy if you shared some. Geschichte (talk) 01:56, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Journalism, Radio, and Television. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:08, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- comment Famous band? You are kidding.TheLongTone (talk) 11:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC) I also see that the only refs you have come up with are to self-published stuff about this entirely non-notable band. Plus a run of the mill entry from the TV station for which he works.TheLongTone (talk) 11:44, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- It’s famous in Luxembourg, I assume you aren’t from there… originally, when I made the article, I simply translated the original article at the Lëtzebuerg Wikipedia to English and added a couple more sources and an info box. I just don’t see what the fuss is about here… V.B.Speranza (talk) 18:23, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Tendai Ruben Mbofana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SIGCOV. Refs are WP:SPS and paid PR. No indication of significance. Fails WP:BIO scope_creepTalk 19:47, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Luis Carlos Vélez (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Uncited for years and promotional. (I took out some of the more obvious promotion but some remains, such as the professional head shot). ... discospinster talk 22:27, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, News media, Economics, and Colombia. ... discospinster talk 22:27, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Journalism, Radio, and Television. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:52, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Hm... this is a hard one. On the one hand, being a columnist for Semana, and his radio work at RCN (one of the two largest media companies in Colombia, where radio is still pretty important media) suggests some degree of notability. However, the only sources I can find about the guy are articles in trade focused magazines that I'm not sure are RS, or articles in RS with clear COI (i.e. a Semana profile). Allan Nonymous (talk) 13:31, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Insufficient coverage. 181.197.42.215 (talk) 23:25, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Slava Smelovsky (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:BLP with zero real coverage. Refs are profiles, other work and oddments. Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:BIO. No indication of significance. scope_creepTalk 17:50, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians and Israel. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 18:23, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Journalism, and Psychology. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:44, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: per nomination and WP:GNG. While on the surface Smelovsky does appear to have references about him, many of these do seem like profiles (16 being probably the easiest one to spot). SirMemeGod 19:55, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Sources 2,3,5,6,7 and 11 are red per Source Highlighter, so those are non-RS. I can only find social media, this person's website, streaming sites, then not much else. Zero hits/nothing turns up in gnews. I don't see musical notability. Oaktree b (talk) 00:57, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge (selectively) into Grundik+Slava as an WP:ATD. No need for an article on this musician since his individual notability is not established. The target does need more information and some info on the duo participants is legitimate. gidonb (talk) 15:17, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:SIGCOV. 181.197.42.215 (talk) 05:14, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thomas Walkom (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No evidence of WP:N. A WP:BEFORE search only returns lists of his articles, and a few critiques by some rabidly pro-Israel website that doesn't seem reliable. BilletsMauves€500 09:28, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Journalism, and Canada. Shellwood (talk) 10:23, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep: Has been a long-time columnist for the Toronto Star, wrote a few encyclopedia articles [1]. Mostly due to the fact that he's cited/quoted in more than a few books [2], implying some notability in his field. Oaktree b (talk) 15:29, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: And the Washington Post [3], he's also mentioned here by name [4], here [5] and here [6] implying notice in the academic field for his work. Oaktree b (talk) 15:32, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 11:42, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sam Forster (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This is a vanity article for a little-known freelance writer. His only claim to fame is drawing widespread mockery and condemnation for his book about wearing blackface across the United States. Much more notable Canadian journalists do not have Wikipedia pages, and the achievements listed are negligible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TrashPandaMan (talk • contribs)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Journalism, and Canada. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 04:26, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 September 20. —cyberbot ITalk to my owner:Online 04:41, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - The person who nominated this article for deletion clearly has a personal issue with the subject, Sam Forster, who is obviously a notable public figure. Just because an author is controversial, like Sam Forster is, that doesn't mean a well-sourced article about him should be removed. Sam Forster seems like a fairly normal, likable journalist, who happened to create an avant-garde book, and it seems like he is being maliciously attacked here. Violetpennington (talk) 07:26, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Keep - The critique overlooks the broader context of Sam Forster's contributions to the public discourse. While it's true that not every writer or journalist gains widespread recognition overnight, dismissing someone's work solely based on their level of fame or controversial moments is short-sighted. Forster’s book, which has indeed sparked debate, addresses sensitive and complex issues, and the ensuing reactions—both positive and negative—demonstrate that his work has provoked meaningful conversations.
It's essential to recognize that public figures who challenge societal norms often face harsh criticism, but that doesn't diminish the value of their contributions. Many notable figures throughout history were initially met with ridicule before their work was acknowledged as significant. Forster's willingness to tackle uncomfortable topics is an important part of his role as a writer. Furthermore, Wikipedia is a platform that reflects public interest, and Forster's coverage there simply mirrors the fact that his work, controversial or not, has sparked significant public attention.
Additionally, comparing Forster to other Canadian journalists based on fame is a false equivalence. The presence or absence of a Wikipedia page is not a measure of a person’s accomplishments, nor does it negate the relevance of their work. It's important to focus on the substance of what a writer has contributed to discussions, rather than focusing on how well-known they are or how their work has been received in certain circles.
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This approach emphasizes the importance of intellectual discourse, the value of confronting complex societal issues, and challenges the assumptions about fame equating to worth. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daves598 (talk • contribs) 01:15, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note: Editor is now blocked. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 10:55, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- The keep vote above by the blocked editor was entirely AI generated (according to gptzero.me), and on that basis should surely be entirely disregarded. Axad12 (talk) 03:09, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. We need some experienced editors to weigh in here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:54, 27 September 2024 (UTC)- Keep - There is no legitimate argument for deleting this article. Sam Forster is clearly a notable figure who has been featured in many prominent media outlets. The fact that some people have criticized his work is not a reason to delete his page. Violetpennington (talk) 07:19, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - like it or not, a quick Proquest search for "Sam Forster" find no end of coverage for his ... for lack of a better word, “mochaface”. Nfitz (talk) 01:40, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Proposed deletions
[edit]- Paul Ingles (via WP:PROD on 22 January 2024)