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July 17[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 17, 2015.

Terr[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was dabify. --BDD (talk) 23:21, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[]

The redirect's current target is a disambiguation page without any subjects that match the name of the redirect listed. If this is an initialism for the word "territory", then, in my opinion, it would only make sense to have this redirect target there if the article Territory was either a list article or a broad-concept article describing the primary use of the term (which it is not in the current situation.) Steel1943 (talk) 22:12, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[]

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Bumsla[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 July 24#Bumsla

Battling Boy (film)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 23:20, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[]

Delete. Film not mentioned at the target's article. -- Tavix (talk) 18:04, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[]

Comment I have no idea why but it sounds like a ventriloquist trying to say "Gatling Gun". However I would have a great deal of trouble sourcing that; could have been the great vent Tommy Roy, which we have not got. Si Trew (talk) 08:09, 18 July 2015 (UTC)[]
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The Operators (film)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to David Michôd#The Operators. (non-admin closure) Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 20:38, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[]

Delete. Film not mentioned at the target's article. -- Tavix (talk) 18:03, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[]

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Pilka nożna[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete all. Just Chilling (talk) 00:26, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[]

Delete per WP:RFD#D8 and WP:RFOREIGN. However, I would like to see a discussion on whether these might be worth retargeting to Poland national football team. On one hand, the Polish language is relatively confined to Poland, the country, and there is a pretty strong connection between the two. On the other hand, it is a minority language in much of Europe (including as an official language of the EU), and doesn't refer to the team, but the sport in general. -- Tavix (talk) 17:51, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. --BDD (talk) 03:12, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[]
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Untitled Indian film projects (I-P)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete all. Just Chilling (talk) 00:30, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[]

These are all outdated redirects. The projects that these redirects refer to all have titles. They should be deleted as confusing because it might lead people to think they are referring to a separate, future untitled project. -- Tavix (talk) 17:33, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[]

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The Joy Luck Club (novel)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 23:19, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[]

The redirect contains wiki markup, which should not be present in titles since if it is linked on a page it can break page text formatting. Also, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 May 4#Some redirects containing wiki markup and Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 November 20#Several redirects that have wiki markup in their titles for similar consensus. Steel1943 (talk) 16:29, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[]

@SimonTrew: Did you put this comment in the wrong thread? It's been happening to me a lot lately. Just asking because there's no dab here. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:22, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[]
Possibly, I check that, in the mean time I strike mine. Si Trew (talk) 17:06, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[]
No, I was actually compos mentis at the time, but I double-checked cos I just doubted myself. The Joy Luck Club is a DAB listing this book, the film, and a nonexistent play, so I probably went round the houses a bit. (I really don't like red links at DABs, what is the point, it helps nobody, it just says "The Joy Luck Club (play), one of productions [sic] produced by TheatreWorks in Silicon Valley, California", and as you see the latter is red, because it is piped to List of TheatreWorks (Silicon Valley) productions, whenvefrom its link is piped back to the DAB.) This is all rather WP:CRYSTAL, then and the WP:DABPIPE doesn't help. Now I have a feeling I am shadow boxing, and losing :)
Notwithstanding all that, I must agree with Ivan and Jack below. Si Trew (talk) 17:13, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[]
Ahh I see. Partly off-topic: the play seems notable enough for a few unflattering reviews ([1], [2], [3]) and mentions in a book about the author. But we don't have an article about the play, and it's not exclusively a TheatreWorks production - other companies have put it on over the years, as early as '93 according to one of these articles. Probably the redlink should be removed from the dab, which is then a TWODABS but I'm not sure if the novel or the film is the primary topic: hits last month are 6300 novel, 5900 film. I would lean novel as primary topic because it came first. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 17:39, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[]
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B's[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to B (disambiguation). There's essentially no consensus here, but no one wanted to this to remain as is, so I'm choosing the alternative to deletion. --BDD (talk) 23:18, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[]

I recently created Boston B's as a companion redirect to this one, but it was speedy deleted as implausible. If "Boston B's" is implausible, than I would imagine this one to be as well. -- Tavix (talk) 14:15, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[]

For me it goes to X S, which itself is a redirect to XS. Strange. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 14:53, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[]
Yes, you are correct. -- Tavix (talk) 14:58, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[]
Delete: I'd say that it "B's" doesn't mean anything in particular, so we should delete it. Compassionate727 (talk) 17:15, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[]
But (as the old jazz single goes) every kinda B'z just whispers Louise. Si Trew (talk) 08:24, 18 July 2015 (UTC)[]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 14:00, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[]
The ones that make sense are US sporting teams. Si Trew (talk) 07:38, 18 July 2015 (UTC)[]
Off topic for this discussion, but I'd expect K's to be a redirect to kilometre as that unit is frequently abbreviated to "k" in speech, e.g. a 10K run. Thryduulf (talk) 09:22, 18 July 2015 (UTC)[]
Yeah I'd agree with that. I don't think we should have all these, but if we had them anywhere, that was better than mine. Perhaps just kilo (a DAB) or kilo- would be better still. It's also used to mean a thousand pounds sterling (I just won ten K's, the new job offers 70 K's) but usually that would be said "grand" and WP:NOTDIC. Si Trew (talk) 07:22, 19 July 2015 (UTC)[]
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African[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was dabify and no consensus, respectively. This is Steel1943's recommendation, though I wouldn't call this a trainwreck—it's been far too slow. As a result, African (disambiguation) will move over African. No prejudice against a new nomination for African people, which will continue to point to the same place for now. --BDD (talk) 19:00, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[]

There has been a slow edit war over whether these should remain redirects or be made into disambiguation pages, but no actual discussion of the topic. Since a disambiguation page already exists at African (disambiguation), creating a second page would constitute a duplicate page, so the real question is whether to maintain the existing redirect or move the disambiguation page. I therefore request a determination of community consensus as to whether the status quo should be changed. bd2412 T 02:08, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Comment There's really no need to keep African (disambiguation) when African isn't even an article but a redirect and alot of topics are related to African on the English wikipedia. So I moved most entries on African (disambiguation) to African where it fits in properly with some description, you (bd2412) undid that edit. Also see (European and Asian). There are many other pages that are related to African people, apart from Native ethnic groups of Africa that is why I created the African people Dab which you have undone to a redirect (see also (European people). Please keep the Dab pages to display other African-related pages on this wiki as ethnic topics are not the only african topics here. Thanks. Stanleytux (talk) 02:32, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[]
Whether this is the case or not is a matter for the community to determine by consensus. Your set of edits was effectively a cut-and-paste move of the existing disambiguation page, which is not permitted. The appropriate course of action at the outset would have been to file a move request at Wikipedia:Requested moves, which expressly requires such a process in any circumstance where the potential move is likely to be controversial. bd2412 T 02:38, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
Comment The existing redirect seems problematic to me; there are a lot of things that are "African" that are not within the scope of that article. So I'd support a move request for the disambiguation page, provided that WP:FIXDABLINKS is observed. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 10:12, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[]
  • Keep, or disambiguate at African as a second choice. I've just come from updating census data at Nova Scotia which lists ethnic origins responses in the dataset, and being a government survey, uses vague response options like "African origins", but nothing more specific except for some European countries. I wikilinked that to African people thinking there would be either an article or a list at the target. It falls under WP:RFD#KEEP #5 (someone finds it useful) but disambiguation is not a bad second option. I also wikilinked Scandinavian for one of the response options and that is already a dab page. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 14:28, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 13:48, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[]
I'll second that. -- Tavix (talk) 00:33, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[]
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Tewksbury ma[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) -- Tavix (talk) 03:24, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[]
Sorry, that is what I mean. I was thinking about that because of a similar redirect I had gone over before that involved Maine. That was my fault. Compassionate727 (talk) 18:19, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steve Lux, Jr. (talk) 12:09, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[]
I should say it was a stretch. (My middle name is Mark, by the way, but nobody has ever called me Ma. Wasn't "and never called me mother" one of those kinda standard music-hall/vaudeville straplines? Anyway I am drifting again.) I can see, Tewkesbury, MA being reasonable, less so Tewksbury, ma (Unless we start putting all ZIP codes in all four variants of the possible capitalization). Mark Twain, as far as I can remember, was never called Ma Twain. Perhaps Mark Tewksbury is called that, but I don't know: in any case he is Canadian and nothing to do with Massachusettes. Does that muddy the waters sufficiently? Si Trew (talk) 17:02, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[]
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Cultivate[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to cultivation (non-admin closure). Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 20:33, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[]

deletion. Inappropriate. Cultivate has many meanings other than in raising crops. Also redirects should not be a general verb relating to a broad subject Mistakefinder (talk) 11:16, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[]

Oh I don't mind that, mine was just a weak alternative. To be honest there seems considerable overlap between the two (for fairly obvious reasons). Si Trew (talk) 07:36, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[]
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Stage Races[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 July 26#Stage Races

Hypogram[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 23:15, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[]

Hypogram is not a term invented by Riffaterre, it deserves an own article (for example the term has been used in a different, but related way by Ferdinand de Saussure in his anagram studies. Furthermore the target article does not even explain the term. Please delete the redirect such that we have decent red links. --Chricho ∀ (talk) 07:35, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[]

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Shoo-gah-zee[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Just Chilling (talk) 01:13, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[]

deletion in accordance with WP:R#DELETE number 8: obscure or possibly foreign language synonym never discussed in target article. KDS4444Talk 03:34, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[]

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