Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/File:Beethoven.jpg

Ludwig van Beethoven

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Original – A portrait of Ludwig van Beethoven by Joseph Karl Stieler, 1820

Alt 1 Google Art Project version, cropped of the frame.

Reason

appropriate quality

Articles in which this image appears

Ludwig van Beethoven, Joseph Karl Stieler, etc.

FP category for this image

Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Entertainment

Creator

Joseph Karl Stieler (painter; 1781–1858)

• Support as nominator – Hamid Hassani (talk) 18:01, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose - Resolution is below the minimum, and far below the resolution threshhold that's been common for painting nominations. I'm also not sure on the colours - the pure white on Beethoven's forehead looks like blown highlights, for example. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:02, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

  There's a version on Google Art Project. A moment. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.4% of all FPs.} 00:38, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

• Support alt 1. Alt 1 looks much better.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:03, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
• @Hamid Hassani and Crisco 1492: I've uploaded a much larger version. Support Alt 1 Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.4% of all FPs.} 00:48, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

• @Adam Cuerden: Thank you indeed for uploading this much larger, clearer image. – Hamid Hassani (talk) 07:04, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

• Support Alt 1, much better. The file description is missing the author: Joseph Karl Stieler. Bammesk (talk) 01:25, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

  Fixed. It was sort of there, just a bad typo ( {{Creator| instead of {{Creator: ) Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.4% of all FPs.} 09:29, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

• Comment Oppose – Well, I'm not sure about against altering the saturation in this very famous portrait. The Joseph Karl Stieler article notes that it's "possibly Stieler's most reproduced work," and indeed it's been reproduced zillions of times (including on a CD I have of the Ninth Symphony by the Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra). One tends to think the Beethoven House in Bonn's version would be authoritative. As to which is more 'lifelike,' that's not the point. For encyclopedic purposes, it's which is more accurate? (FWIW, German Wiki also uses the orig.) – Sca (talk) 13:21, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

  The Google Art Project is the same as on the museum's website Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.4% of all FPs.} 15:17, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

  Not to mention that this is an entirely different digitization than the one originally nominated.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 18:54, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

• Support Alt 1 – Choliamb (talk) 15:34, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
• Support Alt 1 Artem.G (talk) 06:57, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
• comment the only problem with Alt 1 is that it's not used in any article... Artem.G (talk) 07:25, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

  Alta get switched in on promotion Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.4% of all FPs.} 10:00, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

• Support Alt 1 --Janke | Talk 19:42, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
• Support alt 1. MER-C 11:20, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Promoted File:Joseph Karl Stieler's Beethoven mit dem Manuskript der Missa solemnis.jpg --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 18:26, 28 June 2023 (UTC)