Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeb Bush, Jr.

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The result was no consensus. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 10:22, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Jeb Bush, Jr.

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This person is unnoteworthy asside from being born to someone who is noteworthy. Fredd727 08:19, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

• Speedy keep. Notability is already asserted and cited in the article, the Smoking Gun cites are enough and it's simple to find heaps more. Nomination was not based in a sound interpretation of WP:N policy, and so can be speedy kept. — coelacan talk — 08:35, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep per Coelacan-from K37 08:59, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, just one sex on mall parking lot (yellow press story), is notable enough for WP? --MaNeMeBasat 13:23, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, not enough yellow press coverage to become president ... besides, since when is the yellow press a reliable source as required by WP:BIO ? Alf photoman 14:03, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete The media references are minor and are basically about him getting up to teenage antics. These do not a notable bio make. Madmedea 17:43, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete This article doesn't have a lot to show, and its mainly just about some stupid stuff that he did.--CJ King 17:47, 11 February 2007 (UTC
• Redirect to Jeb Bush. Right now I do not think he satisfies WP:V but he may eventually. meshach 18:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep The only stupid stuff, CJ_King, was that he chose to have sex in a mall parking lot. Pretty risky. There should more to the article, but if more can't be found to add to this then it should probably be merged, not deleted. Jjmillerhistorian 18:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete and perhaps merge the info into a "controversies" subsection of Jeb Bush. An article consisting of two relatively controversial incidents and little else doesn't warrant a vote for keep. Tarc 22:04, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep as although the incidents are in one snese merely embarrassing they received international press[1][2][3][4]; some of the coverage draws inferences between those episodes and more notable relatives[5]; and some coverage questions his father's role in the lack of formal charges.[6]. --Dhartung | Talk 22:10, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep and redirect to Jeb Bush This is a good solution short of deletion, as per Jjmillerhistorian and meshach.--CJ King 22:40, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
• Keep and don't redirect. Besides the two Smoking gun articles, he is also the subject of this New York Daily News article. [7]--Oakshade 02:07, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, This guy would never have received even the small amount of media coverage that he has if not for the fact he has a politician for a father. The fact he had sex in a parking lot was not noteworthy, the fact the governor of Florida's son and the nephew of the President had sex in a parking lot was noteworthy. --Fredd727 2:39, 12 February 2007 (EST)

Not liking the reasons for his notability rings of WP:IDONTLIKEIT. If the person was the subject of multiple published works as this person has, that qualifies as notable per WP:BIO. --Oakshade 09:09, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

A bold delete from the nominator? Isn't that similar to a second vote? I know it's not an actual vote, but it looks like another person suggested to delete the page when in fact it was the person who nominated the page for deletion. I agree there should be more information on the page, but I don't see a desparate reason to get rid of it. Jjmillerhistorian 14:17, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

• Comment I noticed that the nominator, User:Fredd727, striked the "speedy keep" vote by User:K37 above without comment [8] (after striking (then reverting) another "speedy keep" vote [9] ). I want to assume good faith, but it's still very suspecious that Fredd727 made yet another unrelated edit in the AfD without correcting the inappropriate vote striking. [10]. I have since reverted the vote to the original intention of the editor. --Oakshade 09:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
• Merge into and redirect to Jeb Bush. Jeb Bush has nothing about his family, and that would be the best place for it. For now, redirect Jeb Bush, Jr. to that page, so that it could be "undone" later if Jr. becomes notable on his own. - grubber 18:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Jeb Bush, Jr. is in his early 20s, has not sought office or done anything of note (volunteering does not count), and is an entirely negative account of a living person based on two incidents (one undertaken while a minor). Rkevins 09:06, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, nnSlideAndSlip 22:35, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
• Merge into and redirect to Jeb Bush - as per grubber's opinions above TSMonk 03:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
• keep please there are enough sources for notability of this yuckfoo 01:51, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

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