Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/British Columbia Technology Industry Association

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The result was no consensus. Cirt (talk) 21:06, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

British Columbia Technology Industry Association

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Delete for non-notability. Sounds like one of those dime-a-dozen "organizations" that is everywhere. Arbiteroftruth (talk) 19:35, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

• Strong delete Clearly non-notable; IMHO should have been speedied. ukexpat (talk) 19:38, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
• Hmm. There's a pretty high number of google news hits, but almost all are press releases. After looking through them for a while I have only found name drops, mentions of galas and awards, but no significant coverage.
  Weak Delete, seems to fail WP:NOTE. --Amalthea^Talk 20:19, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Changed to Weak Delete since the mention in the BC Stats government paper seems to imply some notability, even though it too is little more than a name drop. --Amalthea^Talk 23:24, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
• Keep The article was added because the it is a large organization in British Columbia which acts as an advocate for over 2,100 member companies encompassing a number of technology sectors (facts which should have been initially included in the article, and have now been added). With the technology sector as a whole growing significantly in the province, I thought such an organization was worth noting – I have since added links to industry stats. I was hoping others could flesh the article out even further after the initial post. For the record, I am not affiliated with BCTIA, but the company for which I work is one of its members. Danderson68 (talk) 20:24, 28 October 2008 (UTC) — Danderson68 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

• The above user is also the page's author. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 20:47, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
• I was answering an invitation from Arbiteroftruth to explain why the article was posted. I had thought it was clear that I was the initial author. This was my first crack at posting and I'm fine with whatever majority decision is reached. Danderson68 (talk) 21:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of British Columbia-related deletion discussions. --Amalthea^Talk 22:11, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
• Merge/Redirect into Information Technology Association of Canada -- this is a regional offshoot of a national trade group. Ecoleetage (talk) 02:51, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
• Strong Keep This British Columbia Technology association has 2100+ BC hi-tech company members. This is the primary association in the entire province for technology. They provide workshops, breakfasts, luncheons, etc for hi-tech management and executives, the organization is recognized by the provincial (and federal) government as the primary source for what is occuring in the tech industry. This is NOT a regional offshoot of a national trade group. DustyRain (talk) 08:19, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Additional References to consider - also note there are 17,000+ references to BCTIA on Google
    • http://www.genomebc.ca/whatnew_press/press_releases/2003_press/press_release_100903.htm
    • http://www.investbc.com/Documents/AssetMaps/SectorProfile_ICT.pdf
    • http://www.freetradealliance.org/admin/images/docs/SANANTONIO-CANADA_FTA_TRIP_REPORT%202007%20FINAL.pdf
    • http://www.bc.net/2007-conference/speakers.htm
    • http://www.gov.bc.ca/premier/attachments/ptc_5th_report.pdf
    • http://www.bccancerfoundation.com/cms/page1427.cfm
    • http://www.aved.gov.bc.ca/internationalqualifications/docs/pilots/exp018-1_ymca.pdf
    • http://www.bcjobs.ca/re/career-advice/industry-advice
    • http://www.asttbc.org/RTSS/ASTTBC.RTSS-II.Report1.07.pdf
    • http://geo.international.gc.ca/can-am/denver/trade_and_investment/DenverNewsLetterFeb2006.htm
    • http://www.asiapacifictradecouncil.ca/pdf/India_report.pdf
    • http://www.sys-con.com/node/364592
    • http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20030816.GLOBETROTTER16-2/TPStory/specialTravel
    • http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/business/story.html?id=231d6ab6-0be5-4b25-82c8-b05f114b7749
    • http://www.highbeam.com/Search.aspx?q=bctia
    • http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/British-Columbia-Technology-Industry-Association-867628.html
      • These "pennies-a-dozen" PR releases does not count as anything. Arbiteroftruth (talk) 22:13, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
• Keep. About 40 non-trivial Gnews hits. McWomble (talk) 13:38, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Can you look at them again please? Almost all of them are press releases, and all reliable sources I found only had trivial coverage. --Amalthea^Talk 16:07, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
• Keep after going through the 37 gnews hits, and disregarding the half that are press releases, there seem to be multiple article that cover the organization in a non-trivial fashion, though it is difficult to say due to the mostly pay-per-view hits. But with that amount of coverage, notability is established per WP:ORG. Arsenikk ^(talk) 18:25, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment- You said those are pay-per-view hits. That can't be said as establishing notability. Arbiteroftruth (talk) 20:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Can you name a specific one that seems to cover the topic in detail? PPV or not, that might be enough for WP:NOTE. --Amalthea^Talk 13:22, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

• delete per nomOo7565 (talk) 19:45, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

• Keep per the general notability guideline. Although not from Google or Google News, the following articles are about this organization and/or the awards they hand out, and are not press releases:
  • Shaw, Gillian. "Dazzling days: B.C.'s high-tech leaders are in an upbeat, celebratory mood as they hand out awards", The Vancouver Sun, 2001-06-14, p. E1.
  • "BC TIA works hard to affect change, unify industry", The Globe and Mail, 2000-12-11, p. T1.
  • Caulfield, Peter (July 23, 1999). "B.C. TIA honours high-tech success stories", Computer Dealer News 15 (28): 16.
  • Caulfield, Peter (July 27, 1998). "B.C. high-tech firms face number of challenges", Computing Canada 24 (28): 13–14. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 20:54, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

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