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Virat Kohli In cricket, the T20 World Cup concludes with India defeating South Africa in the final (player of the final Virat Kohli pictured). In Bolivia, troops led by Juan José Zúñiga storm the presidential palace in an attempted coup. WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is released from prison as part of a U.S. plea bargain. Protesters attack the Parliament Buildings in Nairobi, Kenya, leaving 19 people dead and at least 160 others injured. Ongoing: Israel–Hamas war timeline Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Recent deaths: Mohamed Osman Jawari Susana Ruiz Cerutti Shifty Shellshock Sergeant Cecil Frederick Crews Sika Anoaʻi view — page history — related changes — edit

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February 15

Portal:Current events/2024 February 15

February 15, 2024 (2024-02-15) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Siege of Khan Yunis Israeli special forces raid Nasser Hospital in Khan Yunis, the largest hospital still functioning in the Gaza Strip. At least one person is killed and eight others are reportedly injured during the raid. (The Guardian) Business and economy 2021–present United Kingdom cost-of-living crisis The United Kingdom enters a technical recession, as a report issued by the Office for National Statistics stated that the economy shrunk in two consecutive quarters amid a slowdown in consumer spending. (CNBC) Disasters and accidents Eleven people are killed and four more injured during a fire at a paint factory in New Delhi, India. (AP) Nine firefighters are injured when a truck fuel tank explodes in the Wilmington neighborhood of Los Angeles, California, United States. (The Guardian) International relations Russia–United States relations, Russia and weapons of mass destruction The Kremlin dismisses a warning by the United States that Russia intends to imminently place nuclear weapons in space as a "malicious fabrication". The claims were widely circulated yesterday by ABC News and the New York Times after U.S. House Speaker Mike Johnson warned of a "serious national security threat". (Reuters) (Reuters 2) Reuters reports that it is highly unlikely that Russia intends to put a nuclear warhead in space. The antisatellite weapon is more likely a nuclear-powered space-based device that utilizes electronic warfare to blind, jam or fry the electronics inside targets. (Reuters) Law and crime Same-sex marriage in Greece The Hellenic Parliament votes 176–76 to legalise same-sex marriage and adoption, making it the first Eastern Orthodox country to do so. (The Guardian) Politics and elections 2024 Wellingborough by-election, 2024 Kingswood by-election In the United Kingdom, the Labour Party's Gen Kitchen and Damien Egan respectively flip the seats of Wellingborough and Kingswood from the Conservative Party in two by-elections. (BBC News) Science and technology Odysseus, the first US lunar lander since the unsuccessful Peregrine Mission One, is launched at the Kennedy Space Center Florida, United States. (Space.com) Sports In US women's college basketball, Iowa's Caitlin Clark becomes the career scoring leader in NCAA Division I, surpassing the record previously held by current WNBA and former Washington star Kelsey Plum during Iowa's 106–89 win over Michigan. (AP)

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February 14

Portal:Current events/2024 February 14

February 14, 2024 (2024-02-14) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israel–Hezbollah conflict A rocket attack from Lebanon on a military base in Safed, Israel, kills one Israeli soldier and injures several others. In response, Israeli airstrikes in southern Lebanon kill 11 civilians and four Hezbollah militants in Nabatieh and al-Sawana. (The Guardian) Russian invasion of Ukraine Crimea attacks Ukraine claims to have sunk the Russian ship Tsezar Kunikov off the coast of Katsiveli, Crimea. A video appears to show the vessel being struck with unmanned surface drones. (RFE/RL) Cross-Strait relations Two Chinese fishermen drown and two others are rescued when their boat capsizes near Kinmen, Taiwan, while being pursued by the Taiwan Coast Guard, who allege that the fishermen were trespassing. (AP) Explosions occur along the route of a natural gas pipeline from Chaharmahal and Bakhtiari province, Iran, to the Caspian Sea. The Iranian oil minister blames the incident on "terrorism and sabotage". (Reuters) Disasters and accidents 2024 Port Hills fire A state of emergency is declared in Christchurch, New Zealand, as firefighters attempt to control a bushfire in the city's Port Hills region. (Stuff) Fifteen people are killed and eight others are injured when a truck and four microbuses collide in Alexandria, Egypt. (AP) One person is killed and 53 others are injured when a church balcony collapses during an Ash Wednesday Mass in San Jose del Monte, Bulacan, Philippines. (WION) International relations Russia–United States relations, Russia and weapons of mass destruction U.S. officials announce a "serious national security threat" after military intelligence indicates that Russia intends to imminently place nuclear weapons in space. U.S. President Joe Biden has been briefed, according to officials. (The Telegraph) The U.S. holds emergency talks with allies, including Canada and the United Kingdom, on the Russian nuclear threat. (CBC) U.S. House Speaker Mike Johnson says that there is no need for public alarm after briefing President Biden on the matter. (The Hill) Foreign relations of Cuba, Foreign relations of South Korea Cuba and South Korea establish diplomatic relations after exchanging letters via their United Nations representatives. (Reuters) Law and crime War crimes in the Israel–Hamas war Israel–Hamas war hostage crisis The Hostages and Missing Families Forum files a complaint of war crimes against the leadership of Hamas at the International Criminal Court. (The Times of Israel) 2024 Kansas City parade shooting One person is killed and 22 others are injured in a mass shooting during the Kansas City Chiefs' Super Bowl LVIII championship parade at Union Station in Kansas City, Missouri, United States. Three armed suspects are arrested at the scene. (ABC News) Politics and elections 2024 Indonesian general election Indonesians elect a president and vice president, members of the People's Consultative Assembly, and local representatives. (Al Jazeera) Science and technology An over 10,000-years-old underwater structure from the Stone Age is discovered in the Bay of Mecklenburg, in the Baltic Sea. The kilometer long stone wall might be the oldest man-made structure on earth. (CNN)

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(Closed) 2024 Super Bowl parade shooting

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Article: 2024 Kansas City parade shooting (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the United States, twenty-eight people are shot, including 11 children, in a shooting during a Super Bowl parade in Kansas City, Missouri. (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

• Nominated by WaltCip (talk · give credit)

Article updated

A truly shocking event, even as far as shootings in the U.S. go, happening during a parade associated with one of the largest nationally-televised sporting events in the country. Unusual in that it involved multiple shooters and children were injured. _{Duly signed,} ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 16:06, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support I know the people who still think we have a minimum death threshold will think this doesn't measure up to other shootings, but this being at the Super Bowl victory parade generated a lot more attention (and news coverage) than a typical mass shooting gets. The article quality is good, this is what ITN is for. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:16, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose This is business as usual in the US, not a significant number of caualities, and just because it was tied to an event like a Super Bown victory parade doesn't give it any extra weight. Vague hand waving from leaders on tighter gun control but this certainly isn't going to turn that tide. It's an equivalent argument of why we should be posting any given protest in the world without a clear larger impact. Masem (t) 16:22, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

  The "business as usual" argument would mean we shouldn't have posted the Super Bowl at all since it's "business as usual" that someone won and a new offseason begins. Many of the items ITN posts are "business as usual" in that respect. The weight comes from the news coverage, and the significance of the event is not tied to the gun control legislation that will or will not come from this. We post tons of items without "clear larger impact". Compare and contrast this article with another one-death mass shooting article that is on track to be deleted. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:26, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

  Yes but recurring items are generally once per year if new less frequent, whereas gun shootings, and other similar mass casualty events, worldwide, are too frequent to post every single one. — Masem (t) 17:15, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Masem is right. Another day, another shooting in the United States. Sad routine. _-_Alsor (talk) 16:39, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Masem, and honestly, this is a perfect example of media bias and it's influence on coverage. Where and when the shooting happened does not actually change the reality that this was a small fatality incident. It just makes it a more flashy topic to cover. DarkSide830 (talk) 16:42, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Maybe if this had some notable cause I would reconsider, but I don't see much reason to post this when considering that the police say that the shooting had "no nexus to terrorism", and rather started after a dispute among three people. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 17:23, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Per above. Unfortunately, it is an all too-common event, that just managed to find itself in a vastly more public event. While the article is good, the feasible decision is to leave it at that. Mjeims (talk) 17:48, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Masem. It's a tragic routine, and this certainly won't spark any change. Moncoposig (talk) 18:29, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

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RD: Folake Onayemi

Article: Folake Onayemi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.primestarnews.com/first-female-professor-of-classics-folake-onayemi-dies-at-59/
Credits:

• Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Lajmmoore (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nigerian Professor. Article looks to be almost ready. Onegreatjoke (talk) 14:26, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article looks good. Moncoposig (talk) 14:40, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support Thanks for the nomination @Onegreatjoke: I think she is a good RD candidate (in part why I was working on her biography) Lajmmoore (talk) 20:58, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Don Gullett

Article: Don Gullett (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

– Muboshgu (talk) 20:39, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support Article looks good to go. Moncoposig (talk) 21:46, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Support The article is of sufficiently good quality. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 23:42, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 09:24, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Prabowo wins the Indonesian presidential election

Articles: 2024 Indonesian presidential election (talk · history · tag) and Prabowo Subianto (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Following quick count, Prabowo Subianto is projected to win the 2024 Indonesian presidential election. (Post)
News source(s): Forbes, New York Times
Credits:

• Nominated by MarioJump83 (talk · give credit)

One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Based on the quick count, Prabowo has near 60% of Indonesians voting for him. I get this is very early, but from the track record and from my experience as an Indonesian myself quick count is generally accurate with margin of error around 5%, and since he has over 50% of votes (especially 55%+), he will win without going to the second round. MarioJump83 (talk) 14:46, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Wait just to be safe, which would also give the newer blurbs some airtime. Aaron Liu (talk) 16:43, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Wait Even with the accuracy of the quick count, it would be best to wait until he is elected. Moncoposig (talk) 16:46, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
• Wait until he is elected. Setarip (talk) 18:52, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose due to a NPOV tag and an unsoured national honours section. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 19:03, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
• Wait per WP:CRYSTAL, even if the result is very likely, we don't post projections at ITN. Once he mathematically has the majority of the total votes cast, then we can post it (once the tags are fixed of course). Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 19:09, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
• Comments: The Prabowo Subianto wikipage has orange tags that need to be addressed while we wait for official results from voting. --PFHLai (talk) 22:16, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Comment the nomination has the election article as the nominated one, but the bio article as the bolded one. Which one is actually intended to be featured? JM (talk) 03:17, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

the 2024 Indonesian presidential election is the one Setarip (talk) 14:53, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Then that one should be bolded instead of the bio. In any case, @MarioJump83 should answer. Aaron Liu (talk) 16:00, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for ducking this question, I meant Prabowo Subianto should be the one that was bolded since I followed the Ilham Aliyev's reelection ITN nomination, but 2024 Indonesian presidential election being bolded, as I realized is more proper. And also, I think this ITN should be withdrawn as we should wait for official results that will be finalized in March 20th. MarioJump83 (talk) 21:38, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

February 13

Portal:Current events/2024 February 13

February 13, 2024 (2024-02-13) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Armenia–Azerbaijan border crisis Four Armenian soldiers are killed and many others are injured by Azerbaijani troops near the Armenian village of Nerkin Hand. (Reuters) Myanmar civil war The Arakan Army claims to have sunk three junta ships travelling on the Kaladan River in Rakhine State, Myanmar, resulting in up to 900 deaths. The sinking is one of the largest losses in the navy's history. (Atlas News) (The Star) Disasters and accidents Around ten people are believed to be trapped underground after a landslide near the Çöpler mine in İliç, Turkey. A rescue operation is ongoing. (NOS) Law and crime Five people are killed and four others are critically injured in a drive-by shooting in Toa Baja, Puerto Rico. (ABC News) Politics and elections 2024 New York's 3rd congressional district special election In the U.S., Democrat Tom Suozzi wins the special election in his former seat which was vacated following the expulsion of Republican George Santos. (AP) Estonia–Russia relations Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas is reportedly placed on the Russian Interior Ministry's register of wanted people due to the country's removal of Soviet war memorials, making Kallas the first known government leader to be added to a wanted list by Russian authorities. (The Guardian) Impeachment of Alejandro Mayorkas The United States House of Representatives votes to impeach Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas in a 214–213 vote with three House Republicans voting "no" alongside all House Democrats. (ABC News)

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(Closed) Impeachment of Alejandro Mayorkas

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Article: Impeachment of Alejandro Mayorkas (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The United States House of Representatives votes to impeach Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ United States Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas is impeached by the House of Representatives, the first impeachment of a cabinet member since 1876.
News source(s): BBC ABC News AP
Credits:

• Nominated by Tofusaurus (talk · give credit)

Tofusaurus (talk) 05:38, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose for multiple reasons. One, actual conviction in the senate is considered impossible with the Democratic majority. Two, this is nowhere close to, say, the outing of McConnell as House Speaker in terms of impact of how the gov't will function. Three, this absolutely is just political theater that we avoid featuring as news items. Just because its the first Cabinet member impeachment in more than a century is not reason for us to post this. --Masem (t) 05:43, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support we've posted a similarly pointless/inconsequential impeachment of DJT, it'd only be fair if we've posted this as well. Kasperquickly (talk) 07:21, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

DJT was impeached for actual crimes, where this is just nakedly political. GreatCaesarsGhost 15:58, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose impeachment of non world leader are not ITN-worthy. _-_Alsor (talk) 10:23, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose A "minister" gets sacked. That's too run-of-the-mill compared to other countries.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:30, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

  Well, not sacked. He's still in the job, it's just that half the legislature is trying to get rid of him. JM (talk) 14:24, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose An impeachment is a charge, not a conviction. Per WP:PERP, we should stick to the presumption of innocence. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:43, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Impeachment of a cabinet member with no foreseeable consequences. Yay, more political theater. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 12:52, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per Andrew - no conviction has been made. Moncoposig (talk) 14:20, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per BLPCRIME. NW1223<Howl at me•My hunts> 15:04, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose No conviction was made. Setarip (talk) 15:38, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

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RD: David Bouley

Article: David Bouley (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Thriley (talk) 01:01, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose as the article has widespread sourcing issues, as well as two orange tags and a maintenance tag. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 01:53, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose tons of issues Setarip (talk) 15:41, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

2024 Indian farmers' protest

Article: 2024 Indian farmers' protest (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Hundreds of thousands of farmers start a protest in Delhi. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Hundreds of thousands of farmers protest in Delhi to guarantee minimum support price for crop produce.
News source(s): Economic Times [2]
Credits:

• Nominated by Davidindia (talk · give credit)

Davidindia (talk) 12:24, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose For the moment, they do not seem to have any special significance beyond simple protests. _-_Alsor (talk) 12:38, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
• Comment if we do run this, can we replace lakh with hundreds of thousands, as most non-Indian readers won't know what a lakh is. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:11, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  Done. thanks Davidindia (talk) 13:58, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  I've added an altblurb which also provides some additional context about the protests. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 22:41, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose The article is confusing me. For example, after reading it, I don't know if the protests are ongoing, or have ended, as the article uses past tense in multiple places (such as saying the protest "saw hundreds of thousands of farmers make efforts to converge in New Delhi"), but uses present tense in other places (such as saying some farmer organisations "are leading the 'Delhi Chalo' march"). As for notability, the article does not make it clear, what, if any, impacts have come out of the protests. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 13:51, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks for the review. Will try to clean it up. Davidindia (talk) 13:59, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  I will note that after reading the updated article, the article seems to contradict itself as to whether the protests are ongoing, or have ended. The lead sentence says the protests are ongoing, but the infobox box says the date was 13 February, not 13 February-present. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 14:39, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

  No sources say that it has ended, so it's probably present. Aaron Liu (talk) 16:46, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support provided we include the farmers' protests in France and Germany too. There are farmers' protests across the EU but France and Germany have specific articles. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:23, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  And in Spain, Portugal, Italy... but they are certainly not as intense and noticeable as they were a week ago. It is no longer the time. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:23, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  The EU protests are still in the news. See Farmers’ Revolt Threatens Election Year Upsets Around the World which reports this as a global phenomenon. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:53, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  just because it's in the news doesn't mean it's itn-worthy at this point. _-_Alsor (talk) 20:51, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  The article for the German protests wouldn't work for ITN right now, as it hasn't been updated since 8 February. The article for the French protests, while being updated daily, does not contain any information about them since 3 February, meaning it would also not be suitable for ITN in its current form. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 21:16, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  We included that last India farmer protest from a few years back, but that was farm more significant in scale. Protests like these are far too common around the globe to post every single one, and we need to use discretion. Masem (t) 21:20, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  Exactly _-_Alsor (talk) 21:22, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality as the article is in horrendous shape. Unsure on notability yet. The Kip 19:17, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Support on notability, oppose on quality A protest with hundreds of thousands of people is certainly notable. However, the article is currently badly written, and must be improved if we plan on posting it to ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 22:43, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

That depends on if we evaluate based on percentage or nominals. India has 1.4+ billion people. Is there precedent on which we should use? Aaron Liu (talk) 23:56, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

There is no concept of precedent with ITN. Per WP:ITNSIGNIF:

It is highly subjective whether an event is considered significant enough, and ultimately each event should be discussed on its own merits. The consensus among those discussing the event is all that is necessary to decide if an event is significant enough for posting.

—Bagumba (talk) 06:37, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support Massive protests+ unusual for india — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kasperquickly (talk • contribs) 07:21, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
• Wait - I tried to polish the article's tone a bit, but some additional sourcing and detailed information may also need to be added before posting. Right now, the article is a bit short. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (he/him | talk) 08:42, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Unless I'm missing something, the "hundreds of thousands" claim does not appear to be sourced. The BBC and Al Jazeera sources say "thousands", whilst the AP says "tens of thousands". In a country of 1.4bn people, I'm unconvinced that this particular protest is hugely notable at the moment. Black Kite (talk) 09:45, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

  It has a source provided in the opening comment, though someone should add that to the article. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:06, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

  That source is talking about the size of the 2021 protests. It says "The earlier farmer protests saw huge mobilisation of lakhs of farmers ... This time the mobilisation is lower as 25,000 farmers and 5,000 tractors are likely to be part of the march." That's quite a lot, but it's definitely still not "hundreds of thousands". Black Kite (talk) 12:54, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Suggestion for blurb - please replace 2024 Indian farmers protest with 2024 Indian farmers' protest. Tube·of·Light 09:46, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

   Done. Black Kite (talk) 15:40, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose until we can get a more accurate approximation of how many people are involved in the protests, and until the article is improved.

Moncoposig (talk) 17:13, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose for now Currently lakhs any source for the "hundreds of thousands" claim. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 19:07, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Comment Addressed the "citation needed" tags. Capitals00 (talk) 07:01, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

• That source says "hundreds", not "hundreds of thousands". Black Kite (talk) 09:19, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

• No idea how I forgot to reword. Anyway, have used another source this time to state "tens of thousands".[3] Capitals00 (talk) 20:25, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

• Whoever put the [citation needed] tag in the blurb itself, that is hilarious and I love it. Oppose because the article is too short. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 09:13, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

RD: Chaudhry Muhammad Adnan

Article: Chaudhry Muhammad Adnan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Dawn
Credits:

• Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Ainty Painty (talk) 06:22, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Virtually a stub. The Kip 07:12, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Article is a stub, it's 6 sentences qw3rty 13:34, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

(Closed) 2024 Azerbaijani presidential election

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Articles: 2024 Azerbaijani presidential election (talk · history · tag) and Ilham Aliyev (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Ilham Aliyev is re-elected as the president of Azerbaijan (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Ilham Aliyev wins the 2024 Azerbaijani presidential election with 92% of vote
Alternative blurb II: ​ Ilham Aliyev is re-elected for fifth consecutive term following the 2024 Azerbaijani presidential election
Alternative blurb III: ​ The president of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev begins a new term in office.
News source(s): BBC, Al Jazeera, France 24, DW
Credits:

• Nominated by ShadZ01 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

--ShadZ01 (talk) 07:06, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Support? honestly not sure about this one. Article looks good to go, but "dictator wins rigged election" is not exactly a news story This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 10:59, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Oppose This is one of the "widely seen by international observers as neither free nor fair" cases, and it's a re-election. I don't think we posted his last re-election, which was of more significance, as terms were just extended from five to seven years by Aliyev himself. Moncoposig (talk) 14:34, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose This election seems to me to be a continuation of the previous terms of Aliyev, and not really producing any notable shifts in policy warranting a blurb. Also, the article has a NPOV tag. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 15:13, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Oppose, as it says above, "dictator wins rigged election" is not ITN-level news. JM (talk) 15:32, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

@Kiril Simeonovski is this really ITN/R? It's neither a general election nor a change in the administrator of the executive, as far as I can tell. JM (talk) 15:35, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

@JM2023: Basically, it's a re-election of a person who exercises large executive powers (note that Azerbaijan has a semi-presidential system similar to those in Russia, Ukraine, Romania and France).

• Comment This is an ITN/R item and will remain so as long as we don't exclude sham elections, which is very difficult to do given that there are no measurable indicators on the democraticity of an election.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 15:41, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  But a re-election isn't a "change in the holder of the office which administers the executive of their respective state/government". JM (talk) 15:47, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  I don't think this is ITNR. WP:ITNELECTIONS specifically says that the change in a head of state is ITNR, and this is not a change in the head of state, and I don't think this is a general election (that would probably be the parliamentary elections in Azerbijan). 2G0o2De0l (talk) 16:13, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  This technically qualifies as a general election in the same way it is in the countries in brackets in one of my previous comments. If the prime minister were a more powerful office, he’d probably opted to exercise an authoritarian rule from that one. I see that we’ve posted Putin’s and Macron’s re-elections as ITN/R items, so this is most definitely in the same league.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 17:22, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Comment There is debate about whether this is ITNR. This is not a change in the head of state or government, so it would have to be the result of a general election to qualify. Am I right in saying that the general elections in Azerbijan are the parliamentary elections? If so, we should remove from ITNR. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 16:21, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  Tecnically it is also ITNR the results of general elections [...]. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:31, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  My reading is that given that Azerbaijan is notionally a semipresidential system both the presidency and parliament would count as "general elections" though I'm not 1000% up to speed on the precedents here This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 18:42, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  Wouldn't general elections have to tackle the parliament? This election is only for the presidential spot. Aaron Liu (talk) 19:33, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  Not necessarily. General election says In most systems, a general election is a regularly scheduled election, typically including members of a legislature, and sometimes other officers such as a directly elected president., which means that a presidential election can sometimes be considered a general election. To sum it up, a general election is a presidential election in a parliamentary system, both a presidential and a parliamentary election in a semi-presidential system, and a parliamentary election in a parliamentary republic.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 20:23, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  That sounds like too much of a stretch, as it would make any presidential election in a semi-presidential country a general election. Everything after your quoted sentence would count as original research. I also don't see where Putin's most recent reelection was posted. Aaron Liu (talk) 20:55, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  The quoted sentence, which clearly states that a presidential election can sometimes be a general election, isn’t original research.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:07, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  It states that general elections can sometimes include presidential elections. I don't see where it says purely presidential elections can be a general election. Aaron Liu (talk) 22:17, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  A presidential election is different from a parliamentary election everywhere, so it’s completely irrelevant if they take place at the same time or not.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 22:51, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  Many places have the executive determined by whichever party wins the most seats in the legislature, so no, an executive election is not necessarily different from a parliamentary election.
  Either way, I think we can apply IAR based on the principle of the rule probably being aimed at legislative elections, as 1. that's what most people seem to think of "general elections" 2. we have a separate rule for heads of state for a reason. I see no reason to make a special exception for semi-presidential states.
  If this thing is notable enough (which I doubt), it would not need an ITNR boost to its consensus. Aaron Liu (talk) 23:53, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  @Aaron Liu: What is the general election in Azerbaijan then? If it’s the parliamentary election, why is the prime minister unknown and the president wields ultimate power in the country? Why Macron’s re-election at the 2022 French presidential election was considered an ITN/R item, but this isn’t, when France also has a semi-presidential system?--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 06:43, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, it should be the parliamentary. I don't see the relevance of how the prime minister comes to office. Macron also shouldn't have been ITNR. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:00, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Added altblurb3 dictator attempts to legitimise continuing to call himself president. Abcmaxx (talk) 17:31, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  Oppose altblurb3: Don't see how this is an improvement, and this blurb has a consecutive link that looks the same (see MOS:SOB) Aaron Liu (talk) 19:30, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support altblurb2 once the two unreferenced paragraphs get citations. Otherwise, the article looks very good for a sham election in a country other than Russia and Iran. I think the second alternative blurb is most precise.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 19:39, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support altblurb2 or a variation, seems important to note that it is a re-election rather than a change in government (without the sea of blue in altblurb3). CMD (talk) 20:27, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
• Stale, the election was on the 7th, which is older than the oldest blurb. Stephen 21:14, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  Well, the results were only announced by secondary sources the second day, but that may still be too close. Aaron Liu (talk) 22:19, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on notability, regardless of if this is ITNR: Not a change in the head of state and was expected. Even if this is ITNR based on a wording technicality, it should be considered the same as normal presidential elections per my comment above. Note that at least 2 supports and 2Good's strike are based on the prospect of ITNR, which I've now boldly removed from the opening comment. Aaron Liu (talk) 01:13, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Oppose scam election. would you have posted Stalin in 1940? Or Hitler? yikes... Kasperquickly (talk) 07:19, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Strong oppose - Per above. A dictator winning a rigged election and continuing to stay in office isn't newsworthy, and altblurb3 makes the entire debacle sound even less relevant. Bucket of sulfuric acid (he/him | talk) 09:39, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support altblurb 3 if orange-tag is resolved – Two well-detailed articles on a dictator and his election, a government that influences politics and power in the region strongly. A subject many of our readers might be unfamiliar with. I think this is a very appropriate feature for us; a fine reason to show off our writing on this. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:37, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

  What in the world, Aliyev's article isn't updated at all, the election isn't even mentioned in it. It definitely shouldn't be bold-linked if this is featured, and I don't think we should feature the election article at all if the article on the man isn't updated... ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:44, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

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February 12

Portal:Current events/2024 February 12

February 12, 2024 (2024-02-12) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Rafah offensive Israel–Hamas war hostage crisis Israeli special forces conduct a raid on a building in Rafah, rescuing two Israeli-Argentinian hostages. (BBC News) Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip At least 67 people are killed during overnight Israeli airstrikes in Rafah. (Al Jazeera) Israel–Netherlands relations A Dutch appeals court orders a suspension of exports of F-35 jet parts to Israel within the next seven days over concerns that the aircraft parts are being used to commit serious violations of international humanitarian law. Prime Minister Mark Rutte says that the government will appeal the suspension. (Reuters) Israel–United Kingdom relations British Foreign Secretary David Cameron announces sanctions against four Israeli settlers for engaging in extremist violence towards Palestinians in the occupied-West Bank. (Al Jazeera) Moro conflict The Armed Forces of the Philippines confirm that the alleged mastermind of the Mindanao State University bombing in Marawi, a commander of Dawlah Islamiyah–Maute Group, was among the nine militants killed in counterterrorist operations in Lanao del Sur in January. (AFP via VOA) (Manila Bulletin) Syrian civil war Islamic State insurgents attack a military barracks near Al-Sukhnah, Syria, killing nine soldiers and seizing multiple weapons and vehicles left behind by fleeing government forces. (AP) Disasters and accidents A major fire breaks out at the Oceana indoor water park at the Liseberg amusement park in Sweden, leaving 12 people injured and evacuating a nearby hotel and office buildings. The water park was under construction at the time of the fire and was expected to open this spring. (AP) Trinidad and Tobago declares a national emergency after a massive oil spill off the coast of Tobago. (CBS News) Two boats collide on the Congo River near Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of the Congo; with the death toll remains unclear. (AP) Law and crime A man opens fire at a shipping company in Glyfada, Greece, killing three people, before killing himself. (AP)

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RD: Steve Wright

Article: Steve Wright (DJ) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Ollieisanerd (talk · give credit)
• Created by 193.35.8.195 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by JoePantry (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Radio DJ. I'll see if I can get the article up to scratch. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 17:38, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Comment, please note that the death date was February 12, and per our policy «Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated)» it must be placed there. Alexcalamaro (talk) 18:50, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  I've moved it to the February 12 section now. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 19:38, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Comment - I nominated this, in the correct place, yesterday. What has happened to it? Mjroots (talk) 06:10, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Mjroots' nomination was removed as a duplicate. The nomination belongs in the 13th as that's the date that the news broke and we usually go by that rather than the precise date of death. There's often a delay before the family makes a public announcement and this often lacks details. See talk page discussion.

The news was all over the UK broadcast and online media on the 13th and it's on the front pages of the newspapers today, the 14th, as Wright was something of a national treasure.

This made his article the top read on Wikipedia on the 13th. Knowing that there would be a lot of interest, I made sure that we had a good picture in place. I chose one of his prime and cropped it because it's fair use. It's not a common picture so it's interesting that The Times chose to crop the same picture in the same way for their front page – I wonder if they followed my lead or just used the same logic.

As for ITN, RD won't work well because Steve Wright is a common name and so some context is needed as disambiguation. But that's a perennial issue.

Andrew🐉(talk) 08:25, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Andrew Davidson. Looks like I was beaten to the nom by about 6 minutes. Explanation accepted and understood. Mjroots (talk) 10:01, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support, full of factoids. Serious nominatin'. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:19, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose A lot of work needed on referencing. I see whole sections such as his resignation from the Breakfast Show that are unsourced. Pawnkingthree (talk) 23:55, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

  Seems to have been dealt with. If you can see anything else unsourced, perhaps you could add a tag (or find a source, of course)? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:32, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

  That was one example :) I will add some tags, don't have time to look for sources right now unfortunately. Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:59, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:05, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

RD: Bob Edwards

Article: Bob Edwards (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NPR
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Peabody Award-winning radio host of National Public Radio's All Things Considered and Morning Edition. Death announced today. Thriley (talk) 21:07, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose i mean, who is he?3000MAX (talk) 23:52, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  RD !votes should be made on quality considerations, not significance considerations, as significance ("who?") is not a factor in whether or not RDs get posted. Significance !votes are not counted. JM (talk) 00:09, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

  Significance is never a factor in RD noms. What matters is the article quality. Bucket of sulfuric acid (he/him | talk) 13:42, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Oppose There are two CN tags. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:27, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support no more cn tags. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 10:41, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

February 11

Portal:Current events/2024 February 11

February 11, 2024 (2024-02-11) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israel–Hamas war hostage crisis Hamas announces the death of two Israeli hostages and says that eight others have been seriously injured by Israeli airstrikes on the Gaza Strip in the past 96 hours. (Reuters) Myanmar civil war Myanmar's military junta announces that all men aged 18 to 35 and all women aged 18 to 27 will be required to complete two years of mandatory military service, amid territorial losses to anti-military junta forces in the ongoing civil war. (Reuters) Insurgency in Balochistan Two Basij members are killed in an attack on an outpost in Sistan and Baluchestan province, Iran. (Iran International) Disasters and accidents 2024 Maco landslide The death toll from the landslide in Maco, Davao de Oro, Philippines, five days ago, increases to 54 people. Sixty-three others are still missing. (Al Jazeera) Law and crime Lakewood Church shooting A woman carries out a shooting at Lakewood Church, Houston, Texas, United States. She is shot and killed by an off-duty Houston police officer. (The Washington Post) Politics and elections 2024 Finnish presidential election Alexander Stubb is elected President of Finland with 51.6% of the vote.(Yle) Sports 2023 NFL season Super Bowl LVIII In American football, the Kansas City Chiefs win the Super Bowl for the second consecutive year, defeating the San Francisco 49ers 25–22. The Chiefs are the first team to repeat as Super Bowl champions since 2005. (BBC Sport) 2023 Africa Cup of Nations In association football, hosts Ivory Coast win their third Africa Cup of Nations by defeating Nigeria 2–1 in the final. Sébastien Haller scores the winning goal in the 81st minute. (The Guardian)

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RD: Mihai Amihalachioaie

Article: Mihai Amihalachioaie (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://realitatea.md/doliu-in-lumea-muzicii-s-a-stins-din-viata-acordeonistul-si-dirijorul-mihai-amihalachioaie/
Credits:

• Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Erksahin (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Moldovan conductor. Article looks good. Onegreatjoke (talk) 13:21, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

RD: Isabel Mijares

Article: Isabel Mijares (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): El Pais
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
• Updated by ForsythiaJo (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Death announced 11 February. Thriley (talk) 17:04, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Comment only three sources and page created posthumously. I'm on mobile and don't speak Spanish so can't check notability. Sincerely, Novo Tape^{My Talk Page} 17:38, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Her obituary is in El País. She is definitely notable. Please note that RD is not the place to question notability, only the quality of the article is to be assessed. Thriley (talk) 17:49, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Striking my comment. Sincerely, Novo Tape^{My Talk Page} 19:05, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bob Moore (American food executive)

Article: Bob Moore (American food executive) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

• Nominated by Thriley (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Cerebral726 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Article was recently created. Needs expansion. Thriley (talk) 07:24, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Weak support - Article is short but doesn't seem to have any major issues. - Bucket of sulfuric acid (he/him | talk) 13:43, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 23:49, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) Super Bowl LVIII

Article: Super Bowl LVIII (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In American football, the Kansas City Chiefs defeat the San Francisco 49ers to win the Super Bowl. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In American football, the Kansas City Chiefs (most valuable player Patrick Mahomes pictured) defeat the San Francisco 49ers in the Super Bowl.
Credits:

• Nominated by Red-tailed hawk (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

— Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 03:49, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Not Ready Somewhat surprised by the significant gaps in referencing. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:58, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  I acknowledge that this is still being worked on, though I figured I'd throw up the ITN thread because this is ITNR. I'm working on the game summary at present. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 04:26, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Not Ready a lot of uncited material (to be expected, it just ended) and a lot of unfilled boxes (to be expected). TomMasterReal^TALK 04:02, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Procedural oppose Ah yes, the hand-egg finals. Not ready. This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:06, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support once ready. One of the most exciting games I've seen! BeanieFan11 (talk) 04:17, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
  • We still haven't got this up yet? BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:06, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
    • There are some orange tags in the article still. Natg 19 (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support once ready. GG's to the Chiefs. — VAUGHAN J. (TALK) 05:39, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support once ready per above, but it’s not quite there yet. The Kip 06:20, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Comment. I've added a prose summary for the game, which was missing at the time of the nomination. Is there anything else specific that's missing/needs to be fixed? — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 06:25, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
  • A few sections are missing citations, especially the International broadcasting (which is a huge mess). There's also no post-game section. SounderBruce 06:51, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  Mahomes' MVP should be in prose and cited. —Bagumba (talk) 07:28, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Comment There are swathes of unreferenced text, and the list of broadcasters looks very weird (the repetitive hook "the game was televised by" is really not necessary).--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:26, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose orange tagged sections, also the TV broadcasting section violates WP:NOTDIRECTORY, as we don't need every country in the world listed. It isn't important to this encyclopedia article who broadcast it in Bulgaria or any country where very few people likely watched it. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:00, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Added altblurb to mention Patrick Mahomes as per WP:ITNSPORTS. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 13:14, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• I feel like Kiptum's blurb should still be the top one; it has more importance Aaron Liu (talk) 14:00, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  We usually mention the MVP, and the alt blurb follows the formatting of last years blurb. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 14:11, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  Generally, the most recent post goes on top of the group of events that occurred on that same date. —Bagumba (talk) 14:17, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Once ready, support alt blurb with the MVP blue link. microbiologyMarcus ^{(petri dish·growths)} 14:23, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Comment The nominated picture of the MVP looks odd with him not having a helmet. I looked at the description for details and am not understanding why its source is given as Dwayne Johnson!? Andrew🐉(talk) 14:58, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  Vandalism. Aaron Liu (talk) 15:34, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support came down to the final seconds for the Chiefs to win. Not often that happens in American (or Canadian) football. Urbanracer34 (talk) 15:37, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose per Joseph2302 on quality Support and thanks for the ping BeanieFan11; whether the chiefs had something happen in the final seconds is also irrelevant. ——Serial 15:40, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose, but... this is being held up by that whacking great unsourced "International" section. Given that the international audience in most of those countries, especially in the ones where the game took place in the early hours of a Monday morning, is unlikely to be great, why do we need it? Black Kite (talk) 19:11, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  For comparison, 2023 NBA Finals § Media coverage is limited to domestic coverage, while there is a standalone list 2022 FIFA World Cup broadcasting rights. —Bagumba (talk) 19:52, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  If anything the Super Bowl might have fewer viewers overseas than the NBA Finals. Basketball is a world sport Olympic sport, NFL not so much. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 20:12, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• There is one cn left, but there's an "international" section that is holding the nomination up; what are we going to do about it? BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:37, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  https://www.nfl.com/super-bowl/ways-to-watch/countries-and-languages – Muboshgu (talk) 19:54, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  Someone removed the tags. WP:NOTDIRECTORY is debateable, but the entries need to be cited if the detail is staying. —Bagumba (talk) 19:58, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  I would just delete it. It's far too big for something so trivial, anyway. Black Kite (talk) 20:08, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  (edit conflict) It seems Muboshgu's link verifies just about all of it. This looks good to go in my opinion. @Ad Orientem, TomMasterReal, Orbitalbuzzsaw, Natg 19, SounderBruce, Joseph2302, Serial Number 54129, Black Kite, and Bagumba: BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:09, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  Mahomes' MVP is in the blurb, but still not in the prose and cited. —Bagumba (talk) 20:16, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  Post it without MVP for the time being, to give the Afcon image a little more time?- it's only been there are couple of hours. Black Kite (talk) 20:23, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  Added to prose with citation. Natg 19 (talk) 20:31, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support (moved from not ready) Much improved. I think it's good enough. -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:38, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Comment Because there is still an issue with the source of the pictured image, here are two possible alternatives: 2G0o2De0l (talk) 21:01, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  @2G0o2De0l There is no issue for the source. Some IP just vandalized the description before the image was posted on hewiki so we can't edit it. It's been fixed now. Aaron Liu (talk) 21:32, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  Ok, thanks for letting me know. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 21:37, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose Event of only local significance.--2A00:23C4:3E44:2C01:D496:DB57:DCF5:7B65 (talk) 21:04, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  Please read WP:ITNSPORTS. In the American football section, you can see that the Super Bowl is listed. That page is part of the ITNR, meaning recurring ITN items. There is no debate about their notability, only quality. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 21:08, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  This is ITNR, so it doesn't matter how "significant" you feel this is. Also, "only local significance" has NEVER been a valid criteria. It literally says above: "Please do not Oppose an item just because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. We post a lot of such content, so these comments are generally unproductive." --Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 23:42, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Comment There is still a CN tag and unreferenced sentences in the section on the international broadcast. Moreover, no major improvement has been made to get rid of the repetitive hook.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 21:29, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  We've never set perfection as the needed standard for ITN. A few unreferenced sentences in the international broadcast section should not prohibit posting. I have worked on this a bit so am probably too involved to make that final determination. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:32, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose although it's ITNR, the article is not in great shape. Bedivere (talk) 22:16, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
  • @Bedivere: can you describe what the article is missing? Other reviewers here have indicated it is close to posting. Natg 19 (talk) 22:19, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support What a game. I think the article is ready now, the tagged sections have been addressed. Davey2116 (talk) 23:34, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose At Super Bowl LVIII § Statistical comparison, the tables of records are unsourced.—Bagumba (talk) 01:01, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
  • @Bagumba: I just cited all the records (and removed a few unsourced ones). Natg 19 (talk) 01:58, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support It should placed on there because it was such a big game and such. BattleshipMan (talk) 01:24, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support article is ready now. --Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 02:27, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 03:00, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
• Question Why is the current lead blurb (Africa Cup, which already led once prior to Super Bowl) back after Super Bowl and Finnish president? CoatCheck (talk) 21:03, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

  I believe the images get rotated every so often by admins, which leads to the top blurb also changing. Natg 19 (talk) 21:13, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) African Cup of Nations

Article: 2023 Africa Cup of Nations (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Sébastien Haller scores the winning goal to help Ivory Coast win the 2023 Africa Cup of Nations (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In association football, Ivory Coast win the 2023 Africa Cup of Nations after beating Nigeria in the final
News source(s): [4]
Credits:

• Nominated by Heatrave (talk · give credit)
• Updated by SounderBruce (talk · give credit) and Black Kite (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Heatrave (talk) 23:09, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - The ideal target article (2023 Africa Cup of Nations final) is missing a prose summary of the match along with most of the necessary content. SounderBruce 23:31, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
  • Comment - Currently expanding the article on the final and it should be up to ITN standards soon. Just need to finish a few more sections. SounderBruce 10:15, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Comment We usually do not include any specific player unless they are noted as MVP or the like. A better blurb is otherwise needed. --Masem (t) 01:54, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Those we can include a key player as the item's picture should we post this. But again, we should be asking who the MVP is and use that person first and foremost. --Masem (t) 02:02, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Comment Added ITNR as per WP:ITNSPORTS. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 03:04, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose no prose text summary on either the final article or at all on the main tournament article. Also, the blurb for this should follow the standard sports format which I've listed as ALT1. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:09, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support (altblurb) Much updated now, prose of final added in 2023 Africa Cup of Nations final. Black Kite (talk) 10:09, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support per Black Kite. Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 18:00, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 18:19, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

(Posted blurb) RD/Blurb: Kelvin Kiptum

Article: Kelvin Kiptum (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Kelvin Kiptum, holder of the marathon world record, dies at 24 in a car crash along with his coach. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Marathon world record holder Kelvin Kiptum dies in a car crash at the age of 24.
News source(s): 1, 2
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Xaosflux (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Chaotic Enby (talk · give credit), Notleviev (talk · give credit) and Starship.paint (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

The current world-record marathon holder. — xaosflux ^Talk 22:52, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Support. Fixed a few typos, not sure about the choice of putting the death along with the "early life" section, and maybe something could be done for the tables at the end. Nonetheless, a pretty well-referenced article, should be good to post. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 23:02, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Support massive loss for the sport; would even support blurbing, but that will probably be a minority view. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:02, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support - referenced. Updated.--BabbaQ (talk) 01:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support RD now- article is in good enough shape. I very rarely do this for a death, but with some expansion, I'd support a blurb- this is a current holder of (probably) one of the two biggest records in athletics, just reaching the prime of his career, and his death is getting lots of mainstream media coverage. -- Kicking222 (talk) 01:31, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

I support a blurb as well if such a discussion will be held. Clearly a top of the field athlete.BabbaQ (talk) 01:46, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Support blurb too. He was just on ITN for winning the record. --Jiaminglimjm (talk) 01:49, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support: I've also added a blurb, any improvements welcome. Aaron Liu (talk) 01:53, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb. A tragic death-as-the-story case, and someone who was in the news for breaking the record so recently.  — Amakuru (talk) 01:56, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb "Unusual death" particularly as he was still an active runner, absolutely fits here. Article seems in good shape, though I would hope some short but reasonable reactions to his death (like a sentence or two at most) could be added. --Masem (t) 02:04, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb particularly due to him being "the only person in history to run the marathon under two hours and one minute in a record-eligible race", as stated in the article. However, I am not sure if this would really qualify for an unusual death. For example, this source says that there were over 4,000 deaths related to road accidents in Kenya in 2022. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 02:49, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support per above. Certainly one of the more tragic deaths in recent memory. NW1223<Howl at me•My hunts> 02:49, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Support blurb—world record holder of a major sporting section BhamBoi (talk) 05:43, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

breaking the course record in london

breaking the world record in chicago

• support blurb. he was just getting started. after he broke the world record in only his third marathon, commentators were saying that he had still quite a bit of energy left in him. it seemed like breaking the two-hour mark was well within reach.
  note that we have a picture of him breaking the world record in chicago, though it may need to be cropped if it is to be used on the main page. we also have a photo of him breaking the course record in london earlier that year, which we used when we posted the breaking of the world record to itn in october. (full disclosure: in case it is seen as a conflict of interest, i should mention that i was the editor who created the "2023 Chicago Marathon" article.) dying (talk) 02:59, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb - unexpected death for someone obviously at the top of his field so recently. Proposed altblurb. starship.paint (RUN) 03:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb Unexpected tragic death of a young top figure in his field, and being the marathon record holder is mainstream/commonly-known enough. The Kip 05:19, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb, worldwide headlines. Shadow4dark (talk) 06:03, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb. Massive loss to the running community, and so young. Breaking the world record in Chicago would be the picture I'd go for. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 06:52, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Wait until we have more details of the accident. This happened late last night so daylight will literally shed more light on the scene but there don’t seem to be any photos yet. And we need more time to clean up our coverage. For example, it's reported that he was driving a Toyota Premio and our article about that says that it's only sold in Japan. It's wrong. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:05, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  Presumably that means it is only sold new in Japan... But in Kenya, a large proportion of cars are imported, often because it's cheaper than buying local new cars, and many do come from Japan, perhaps because they both drive on the left.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:13, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  @Andrew Davidson: - the car could have been a cheap second-hand car sent to Kenya. This is a minor detail, really. starship.paint (RUN) 09:17, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Absolutely support blurb if and when the article is ready. -- KTC (talk) 08:14, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb This is a no-brainer.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:22, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb per above. Unusual death, and the fact that he is the current world record holder definitely makes this notable enough. Davey2116 (talk) 08:56, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support blurb once article is slightly better and there may be more information by that time. World record holder and the future of marathon running dying like this is tragic, and unusual enough therefore to warrant a blurb. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:19, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Regarding a concern about a conflict with a Wikipedia car page, that page is largely uncited, and the WP:CIRCULAR policy states Do not use articles from Wikipedia (whether English Wikipedia or Wikipedias in other languages) as sources... It's also unrelated to the blurb. The page(s) can be updated, as needed.—Bagumba (talk) 09:22, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) 2024 Finnish presidential election

Article: 2024 Finnish presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Alexander Stubb wins the 2024 Finnish presidential election. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Alexander Stubb is elected President of Finland
News source(s): Reuters, AP, Yle
Credits:

• Nominated by JIP (talk · give credit)

JIP | Talk 20:04, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

• Note that the position of power in Finland is the PM, so this is not ITNR (it was properly marked as not ITNR, just making this comment in case the question comes up) --Masem (t) 20:10, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support - update done. Which article will be the main article though.BabbaQ (talk) 21:34, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support added altblurb to address above concern This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 23:37, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Support altblurb as per orbitalbuzzsaw. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 01:50, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support As per above, this is not ITN/R, and, as far as I can tell, this is the first nomination for the result of a presidential election in Finland. However, as stated in the article, this is the first election since Finland joined NATO, and, due to the Finnish president being the commander in chief, I believe that this is notable enough for a blurb. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 02:32, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 22:46, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Pull - Finland's President is not the head of government nor does he manage the executive; he only has nominal powers. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 22:55, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Post-posting Support in part per 2G0o... The commander-in-chief is notable enough IMO. Either way, the monarch of most European countries has little power, yet we tend to blurb because it's still a prominent role. Sincerely, Novo Tape^{My Talk Page} 23:11, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
• Pull - I don't see this In the News in my diversified news-feed or as significant enough news event to get posted. No Drug No War (talk) 01:38, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• I support this posting after the fact as well, because the President will have a lot of influence on the continued relations between Finland and Russia over the next coming years. The President post is not as insinuated without much power. Posting was a good decision.BabbaQ (talk) 02:22, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Then the blurb should really have explained this. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 05:07, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

  The blurb doesn't explain that the president isn't the head of state either. You are free to click on the link and learn about it. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:37, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

  Confused. The first sentence of this article says, "The president of the Republic of Finland is the head of state of Finland." CoatCheck (talk) 17:05, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

  The head of state is the public persona, not necessarily the person with the greatest power. Aaron Liu (talk) 17:25, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

  So... the President of Finland IS the head of state, but not the head of government. There's a reason that's not ITNR. I still think this was inappropriate to blurb without some type of context given. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 22:41, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Election article looks good, but Stubb's own article probably needs further updates. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 12:40, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

  That's why the election article is bolded, and Stubb's isn't. Stephen 23:11, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

February 10

Portal:Current events/2024 February 10

February 10, 2024 (2024-02-10) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip The IDF claims to have discovered a Hamas data center under UNRWA's Gaza Strip headquarters. (Times of Israel) Spillover of the Israel–Hamas war Red Sea crisis Seventeen Houthi fighters are killed during airstrikes launched by the United States and the United Kingdom in Yemen. (Al Jazeera) Kivu conflict M23 offensive Tens of thousands of people flee to Goma, the capital of the DR Congo's North Kivu province, as M23 rebels advance towards the city. (BBC News) Somali civil war Four Emirati soldiers and a Bahraini military officer are killed, while ten other people are injured, when a soldier opens fire at a military base in Mogadishu, Somalia, before being killed in the ensuing shootout. Al-Shabaab claims responsibility. (AP) Disasters and accidents France's EDF shuts down two nuclear reactors due to a fire at the Chinon Nuclear Power Plant. (Reuters) A Eurocopter EC130 helicopter crashes near Nipton, California, United States, killing all the six people on board, including Nigerian banker Herbert Wigwe. (CBS News) Politics and elections 2023–2024 Senegalese protests Violent protests occur in Senegal following an announcement by President Macky Sall that presidential elections have been delayed from February 25 to December 15. (Sky News) 2024 Pakistani general election Despite Imran Khan's lead, Nawaz Sharif claims victory amid allegations of military-led rigging of the election. (Time) President of Hungary Katalin Novák resigns one week after news media revealed that she had pardoned a person who had been convicted of aiding in child sex abuse. (Reuters) Sports 2023 AFC Asian Cup In association football, hosts Qatar win their second consecutive Asian Cup title after defeating Jordan 3–1 in the final. Akram Afif earns a hat-trick—all scored from penalty kicks. (Reuters via The Guardian)

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(Posted) RD: Anthony Epstein

Article: Anthony Epstein (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/professor-sir-anthony-epstein-zgpcfj5wk
Credits:

• Updated by Wiki-ny-2007 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

British pathologist, one of the discoverers of the Epstein–Barr virus. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 07:10, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support article meets requirements. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 15:58, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 21:25, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

RD: Harold Mitchell

Article: Harold Mitchell (media buyer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-11/harold-mitchell-dead-at-81/103453500
Credits:

• Nominated by HiLo48 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Australian businessman, media buyer, philanthropist and humanitarian. HiLo48 (talk) 03:50, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

RD: Henry Blackaby

Article: Henry Blackaby (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Religion News Service
Credits:

• Nominated by HistoryTheorist (talk · give credit)
• Updated by 173.216.141.252 (talk · give credit) and Kelisi (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

A bit stubby. However, I expect publications like Christianity Today and others to provide enough materials to de-stubify. Will probably need a bit of citation work as well, but right now, I'm working on Joel Belz. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 00:02, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

I clicked on the first reference. I got a nice red "Deceptive site ahead" page. Support, I guess. 51.154.145.205 (talk) 13:35, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose The books section was sourced by goodreads, which I removed per WP:GOODREADS. As per above, the first reference was a potentially dangerous link, which I also removed. In short, the article needs some referencing work. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 14:47, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Herbert Wigwe

Article: Herbert Wigwe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Bloomberg
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Heatrave (talk · give credit)
• Updated by 2601:282:2000:7160:ddf5:d013:2ba9:c1ca (talk · give credit) and Taiyetaiwo99 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

The death of the Group Chairman of Access Holdings, his wife and son through a helicopter crash — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heatrave (talk • contribs) 20:35, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support - Fully referenced. Updated.--BabbaQ (talk) 01:52, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 21:23, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

2024 Pakistani elections

Article: 2024 Pakistani general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Despite the disqualification of the PTI and the jailing of its leader, Imran Khan, independent candidates supporting his party win the most seats in the 2024 Pakistani general election. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Independent candidates backed by the disqualified PTI and its jailed leader, Imran Khan, win the most seats in the 2024 Pakistani general election.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In Pakistan, the general election results in a hung parliament.
Alternative blurb III: ​ In Pakistan, the general election results in a hung parliament with the Tehreek-e-Insaf-backed independent candidates leading.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ After the 2024 Pakistani general election, six parties agree to form a coalition government with Shehbaz Sharif as prime minister.
Alternative blurb V: ​ Despite the majority of seats being won by PTI-backed independent candidates, PML-N decided to establish a coalition government.
News source(s): BBC, CNN, Reuters, Al Jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Saqib (talk · give credit) and Titan2456 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Most results are in and Imran Khan is claiming victory in the election but so is Nawaz Sharif. Formation of a government is likely to be complex and take time but we ought to move on from the previous Khan blurb now. Andrew🐉(talk) 17:01, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support altblurb Let's not overlook the fact that numerous foreign media outlets, including France 24, TIME, The Intercept, Economist have characterized the election was rigged by the military as they have done in the past, but despite that the election results have turned out completely differently. NYT went on to say the election results have humiliated the military rulers and has started a new political crises in the country. --Saqib (talk) 17:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
• Comment Needs a more neutral header. In the body of the article it can explain why that party winning the most seats is unusual or unprecedented, but its not ITNs place to make that call. --Masem (t) 18:12, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
• Added altblurb as I think the "despite" in the original blurb is unnecessary. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 18:43, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support altblurb per above. The Kip 19:07, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose - the article is incomprehensible to me. I've been looking at it for 5 minutes, and I simply don't know what's going on. I say that as someone with no previous understanding of how elections are done in Pakistan, and who hasn't read any news articles on the election results, other than the headlines. For example, in the header box, it notes that all 336 seats are up for election. But in the 2024 Pakistani general election#Provisional results by party section it lists total of only 258 seats (declared?) with 7 left to declare. In the info-box it shows Khan as the leader of a party called "PTI-Ind". However that isn't a party, and Khan isn't even running for a seat and thus is ineligible to be PM. The references are whacky - what are [1] and [2] doing as references - surely they are notes. The "Seats needed" in the box is just confusing - everyone needs 169 seats. And getting this number by subtracting the 2018 results doesn't work, as seats have changed since the previous election. Instead show "Seats won", "Seat change". There needs to be a full table of results, similar to the 2018 election. At this point, I'm not sure the result is even clear. Nfitz (talk) 19:38, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

@Nfitz: There're a total of 264 general seats, with the remaining reserved seats [Elections are not conducted for these reserved seats.] Presently, results have been announced for 256 out of the total 264 seats. As for Khan's leadership status, he has been designated as the leader due to his association with the PTI-backed independent candidates. More detailed information on this matter can be found in the section titled 2024_Pakistani_general_election#PTI_de_facto_ban_through_intra-party_election_verdict within the article. And how about we omit the numbers for now, since the legitimacy of many of these results is being contested by the PTI. --Saqib (talk) 21:04, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

The seating is explained in the section 2024 Pakistani general election#Electoral system

The 336 members of the National Assembly consist of 266 general seats elected by first-past-the-post voting in single-member constituencies, 60 seats reserved for women elected by proportional representation based on the number of general seats won by each party in each province, and ten seats reserved for non-Muslims elected through proportional representation based on the number of overall general seats won by each party.

Andrew🐉(talk) 21:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks - I do think that one should be able to grasp this a lot quicker, and that the text be improved. Also, at this point the general percentages are done, so how are those seats being distributed ... and do independents even play into that. Ultimately, this is probably ITN. But the article needs work. Nfitz (talk) 00:59, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

It's quite a big and complicated topic and the article has been under development for six years. And so there's a lot to digest. Here's what we did last time. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:12, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

I think there may be a typo, User:Andrew Davidson in that link. Nfitz (talk) 18:23, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

@Nfitz: Link fixed. The previous election was marred by violence, whereas this one was tainted by daylight mass rigging. --Saqib (talk) 18:33, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Ultimately, this should probably be posted, once there's more clarity. Which seems to have taken over 4 days last time. Nfitz (talk) 19:10, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

• Wait until an actual outcome is known/a government is formed. Right now, the situation is unclear and posting that the PTI de facto candidates won the most seats doesn't mean much unless they actually then form a government, which is sounds like currently they won't. Joseph2302 (talk) 19:38, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

  This is the election result. We will post the government formation too when that happens down the road. See recent examples in Italy/Spain, for example. Curbon7 (talk) 04:30, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

@Joseph2302: Having garnered significant press coverage worldwide, the election results deserves to be posted. I believe we did the same previously. Saqib (talk) 07:05, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Wait as per @Joseph2302: situation is unclear, PTI-backed independent candidates are joining other political parties.[5][6][7] War Wounded (talk) 19:02, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

So far, only one PTI backed independent candidate joined other party, contrary to your assertion that many did. And by the way, this should not be a logical reason to put this ITN on hold. The key point is that independent candidates backed by PTI won the majority of seats.--Saqib (talk) 19:15, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Support per Saqib. Article seems clear enough to me Aaron Liu (talk) 21:31, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support. I would say the PTI victory is notable independent of coalition formation. I say we cross that bridge when we get there. DarkSide830 (talk) 01:47, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose In Pakistan, elections aren't considered complete until all reserved seats are assigned. Once these seats are allocated, the dynamics will shift significantly, potentially placing independents in third position. Independents cannot vie for reserved seats, so it's prudent to wait until these seats are allocated before determining the election outcome. Publishing the story prematurely, as suggested, could mislead readers. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 18:18, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

No elections are held for reserved seats hence their allocation is pointless to this ITN posting. No Drug No War (talk) 20:16, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Reserved seats are integral to the electoral process in Pakistan. You should refer to the 2018 Pakistani general election page, where the party positions are determined based on the total of 342 seats, encompassing both general and reserved seats. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 20:24, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

ITNR is for the general elections and not for the whole electoral process in Pakistan. Nor is the 2018 election page considered a bible. No Drug No War (talk) 01:44, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose There is no final notification by ECP about the victory of various candidates. Even independent candidates did not join any party. Wait till the final position is declared by ECP.--Ameen Akbar (talk) 19:43, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Election results are never put on hold until the Independent candidates join any party. Nor are the final notifications (which are withheld on court orders in some cases) a necessity for ITN posting. No Drug No War (talk) 20:16, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support altblurb2 or altblurb3, the ECP has declared all the results and as such this ITNR must be posted. No Drug No War (talk) 20:16, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support altblurb4, as it is more realistic and closer to the facts on ground. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 01:38, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

AFC Asian Cup

Article: 2023 AFC Asian Cup (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In association football, Qatar win the 2023 AFC Asian Cup after beating Jordan in the final (MVP Akram Afif pictured). (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In association football, Qatar win the 2023 AFC Asian Cup after Akram Afif scores a hat-trick of penalties against Jordan in the final.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In association football, Qatar win the 2023 AFC Asian Cup after an Akram Afif hat-trick against Jordan in the final.
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

I think if AFCON is included, then Asian Cup should be as well Pksois23 (talk) 01:26, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Whether sports events are ITNR isn't decided arbitrarily; it's based on whether there's consensus at ITNSPORTS.
Oppose: Entire team section only has one or two sources. Map thing has a display error, I'll see if I can fix that Aaron Liu (talk) 01:52, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

The Asian Cup is listed on ITNSPORTS Pksois23 (talk) 05:40, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, that's what I'm saying. It's not really an "I think". Aaron Liu (talk) 12:40, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose until prose summary is added (which I may do myself). I have modified the blurbs to link to the final's article, which is the normal target. SounderBruce 07:32, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
• Jeeez Jordan can't catch a break, losing in basketball a few months ago and now this LOL. Howard the Duck (talk) 19:46, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

February 9

Portal:Current events/2024 February 9

February 9, 2024 (2024-02-09) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Myanmar civil war Operation 1027 At least 340 members of Myanmar's Border Guard Police flee into neighboring Bangladesh and are disarmed and detained by Border Guard Bangladesh in the past week amid continued fighting against the Arakan Army. (ABC News) Israel–Hamas war Evacuations during the Israel–Hamas war, Gaza Strip evacuations Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu orders the Israel Defense Forces to plan evacuations of the city of Rafah. (BBC News) Disasters and accidents At least 18 people are killed during a collision between a bus and a truck on a road in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of the Congo. (AP) Two people are killed and three more survive after a plane crashes on Interstate 75 in Collier County, Florida, United States. (WBBH-TV) Law and crime Four people are killed and another is injured in a mass shooting at a market in Rustavi, Kvemo Kartli, Georgia. The gunman is arrested. (Reuters) Two police officers are killed and two more are injured after a speedboat suspected of belonging to drug smugglers smashed into their patrol craft in the port of Barbate, Spain. (AP) In a landmark ruling, the Federal Court of Malaysia declares several instances of Islamic legislation passed by the State Government of Kelantan as unconstitutional. (CNA)

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RD: Jim Hannan

Article: Jim Hannan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.wgauradio.com/news/trending/jim-hannan-first-president-mlb-players-alumni-association-dead-85/YM6RIKKZ5VF6PIOJTG6THQRFK4/
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Major League Baseball pitcher from 1962 to 1971. Co-founder and 1st president of the Major League Baseball Players Alumni Association. 65.94.213.53 (talk) 07:25, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Damo Suzuki

Article: Damo Suzuki (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, Pitchfork
Credits:

• Nominated by 240D:1A:4B5:2800:5C1A:689:3A4D:64F1 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Ceoil (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Japanese rock singer known as a member of Can. 240D:1A:4B5:2800:5C1A:689:3A4D:64F1 (talk) 00:37, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support: Article looks to be of good quality, though the discography section could be shortened a bit. LynxesDesmond 🐈 (talk) 02:56, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support - looks good to go. Sources and quality are checked.--BabbaQ (talk) 10:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose for now - article is slight. Ceoil (talk) 10:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Slight? Explain.BabbaQ (talk) 10:31, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

The lead was inadquent, and there was dodgy refs and major gaps in explaining his career. Is that clear enough BabbaQ? As an update, article is improving, nearing a Q/C pass for main page. Ceoil (talk) 13:02, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Support Article quality seems pretty good. Setarip (talk) 14:01, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Support, well sourced. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:40, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Support now. Ceoil (talk) 21:33, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 06:03, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Post-posting support Is this West latent pattern? Run it, says Damo's spirit. ——Serial 13:22, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

RD: Ed Tarver

Article: Ed Tarver (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [8]
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

– Muboshgu (talk) 16:55, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support not long but sufficient article. Sourced and ready.BabbaQ (talk) 22:38, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
• Comment: Did he have any notable accomplishments as a State Senator, United States Attorney or in his private Augusta law firm? Article is mostly a list of roles and election results, with limited depth otherwise. Spencer^T•C 05:53, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

(Pulled) RD: Robert Badinter

Article: Robert Badinter (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): French Government Le Figaro France 24 Libération
Credits:

• Nominated by Brigade Piron (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Ancientwanderingsnow (talk · give credit), Spectritus (talk · give credit) and Normantas Bataitis (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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French lawyer, statesman and government minister known for his ultimately successful campaign for the abolition of the death penalty in France. The article still needs work. —Brigade Piron (talk) 22:16, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Not ready Still four citation needed tags and one failed verification, shouldn't be too hard to fix. While I wouldn't call the death blurb-worthy, he was certainly a defining figure of French politics, and a man of his stature deserves an article in good shape. Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 00:59, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Procedural oppose per above This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 05:03, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Support: Article looks fine now. @Chaotic Enby, Orbitalbuzzsaw: I've fixed the issues brought up. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 02:13, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, support! Chaotıċ Enby (talk · contribs) 09:17, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support per improvements. Referenced and ready.BabbaQ (talk) 12:05, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Posted—Bagumba (talk) 07:12, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
• Pulled Some unsourced lines contested at WP:ERRORS—Bagumba (talk) 08:01, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

February 8

Portal:Current events/2024 February 8

February 8, 2024 (2024-02-08) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Russian invasion of Ukraine Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy dismisses Valerii Zaluzhnyi from the post of Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, following months of rumors about a disagreement between Zelenskyy and Zaluzhnyi. Ground Forces commander Oleksandr Syrskyi is appointed Commander-in-Chief to replace Zaluzhnyi. (BBC News) Disasters and accidents 2023–2024 Sundhnúkur eruptions Icelandic officials declare a state of emergency after a new volcanic eruption cuts off hot water for approximately 20,000 people south of Reykjavík. (NU) The death toll from a landslide in Baghdati, Imereti, Georgia, increases to nine, following the conclusion of search operations. (RFE/RL) (Agenda.ge) Five U.S. Marines are confirmed dead after a Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion helicopter, which crashed yesterday in San Diego County, California, United States, is located. (NBC News) Politics and elections 2024 Pakistani general election Pakistanis elect members of the 16th National Assembly. (Reuters) Mobile phone services are temporarily suspended and thousands of troops are deployed to protect polling stations during the 2024 Pakistani general election as five policemen are killed in a bombing targeting a patrol in Kulachi, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, and two children are killed in a bombing at a polling station in Balochistan. (Reuters) Trump v. Anderson The US Supreme Court hears arguments on whether the Colorado Supreme Court had the authority to exclude former US President Donald Trump from the Colorado presidential primary ballot, for allegedly violating Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. (CBS News) Science and technology Meta suspends the Instagram accounts of Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei for violating its "Dangerous Organizations & Individuals policy". (Middle East Eye) NASA's PACE mission is launched aboard a Falcon 9 rocket at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida, United States, to study Earth's ocean and atmosphere. (Ars Technica)

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(Posted) RD: Toddy Kehoe

Article: Toddy Kehoe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/trailblazing-local-politician-toddy-kehoe-dies-at-105-1.6761866
Credits:

• Created by Earl Andrew (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Earl Andrew (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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65.94.213.53 (talk) 07:17, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support This has enough details & references. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 03:45, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support. Thanks for nominating this! :-) -- Earl Andrew - talk 14:18, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 23:44, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

2024 Haldwani violence

Article: 2024 Haldwani violence (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Uttarakhand, India, at least five people are killed and dozens more injured in religious clashes. (Post)
News source(s): BBC NYT AJ
Credits:

• Nominated by 2401:BA80:A30C:7BB8:5C5C:46F1:1EB:FF3F (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Article looks good enough to get posted. | 2401:BA80:A30C:7BB8:5C5C:46F1:1EB:FF3F (talk) 05:21, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose good faith nomination on quality As I am not super involved in Indian events, I can't comment much on notability, but there are a bunch of yellow tags relating to tone which need to be dealt with first before we post the article. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 05:34, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on Quality there are 3 tags when you open the page Setarip (talk) 12:47, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality, but support in principle. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 17:36, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

(Posted) New prime minister of Georgia

Article: Irakli Kobakhidze (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Irakli Kobakhidze (pictured) is elected Prime Minister of Georgia by the Parliament (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press
Credits:

• Nominated by Alsoriano97 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Borgenland (talk · give credit), Uzenaes (talk · give credit) and 2G0o2De0l (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

His article needs a bit of work. I'm on it. Work done. _-_Alsor (talk) 12:35, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Support: However, as the nominator said, the article should be improved. Article has been improved. Prodrummer619 (talk) 19:39, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Support change of head of government This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:32, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support a new administration change is always notable enough to post

Setarip (talk) 09:05, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose due to there still being 3 cn's. Support as the article now seems to be fully sourced. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 14:28, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks for your work. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:06, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

  You're welcome, and thanks for your work as well. 2G0o2De0l (talk) 17:16, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• The article has been improved: content expanded and RS sourced. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:02, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

  @Prodrummer619 can you please take a look at the article? Thanks _-_Alsor (talk) 17:07, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support It’s ITN/R & meets the quality standards. Blaylockjam10 (talk) 19:54, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
• @Admins willing to post ITN: There seems to be a consensus to post. _-_Alsor (talk) 13:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
• Posted. I have tweaked the wording slightly though, so the hook focuses on his succeeding the predecessor rather than being "elected". That has caused confusion in the past, given that this wasn't a result of a national election and follows similar changes of leadership without a general election, such as Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 14:08, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

  Much better, for sure. Thanks! _-_Alsor (talk) 14:27, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

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