Talk:Men Going Their Own Way
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Q1: Why is MGTOW called anti-feminist and misogynist?
A1: Many published, reliable sources such as scholarly journals and books describe MGTOW as anti-feminist and/or misogynist,[1][2][3][4] and no reliable sources contradicting these descriptors have been found. Q2: Why is MGTOW linked to white supremacy and the alt-right?
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Semi-protected edit request on 14 August 2022
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I would like the word misogynistic and white supremesist removed from this article. It's offensive to tar all men with the same brush. 94.175.115.150 (talk) 19:26, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Not done the article isn't about "men" in general, it's about the group and it's ideology, which is well sourced. So it won't be removed. PRAXIDICAE🌈 19:32, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 22 August 2022
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Edit so that readers understand it is not ran by white supremacists. This article is not accurate and strongly comes off as it is followed by racist ppl. Remove "overlap'. ChiefRunningBear91 (talk) 20:18, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
CLC ChiefRunningBear91 (talk) 20:18, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
- Not done as per previous discussions. This also isn't exactly what the article says. PRAXIDICAE🌈 20:26, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 30 September 2022
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Remove the word misogynistic. 129.15.64.230 (talk) 20:26, 30 September 2022 (UTC) MGTOW is not misogynistic. Reading that in the first line makes this article lack credibility. It sounds like something written by an ultra feminist. MGTOW is about men recognizing that the current form and direction of dependent relationships with women (especially marriage in western countries) no longer benefits them, and making the choice to avoid those relationships since they now only mostly benefit women.
- Not done: That is how the movement is described in reliable sources. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:41, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- Read the FAQ. Acroterion (talk) 22:27, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 6 October 2022
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MGTOW is not "misogynistic" it's just men going their own way. Is feminism listed as "misandristic"? A movement isn't misogynistic, individuals are. Wikipedia is making a blanket statement based on individual behaviours. RP ad2022 (talk) 18:55, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: See "Q1: Why is MGTOW called anti-feminist and misogynist?" at the top of this page as well as the response just prior to this one. General Ization Talk 18:58, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
Pierre Poilievre
How is the section on Poilievre of historical relevance? He has no known involvement with the community and was unaware of the hidden tag that was likely added without his knowledge. This should be removed unless there is a clear connection between him (or his online content) and the community. 129.222.184.120 (talk) 01:42, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- The tags were on his own YouTube channel, as covered by reliable sources. It is not the role of the Wikipedia to prove a negative for you. Zaathras (talk) 01:59, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think it should be removed, but I do think we could trim it a bit. It's punching above its weight class in the History section. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:00, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
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