Talk:Travian

Versions

Could someone who plays the game confirm whether the Classic server (3) runs Travian 2.5 or 3.x? The website has some information about the different versions. I feel the section should be added back with sources. --Joshua Issac (talk) 19:09, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Classic is called Version 2.5 as it incorporates parts of the older 2.0 release, however, code wise it is based on 3.x - it merely has certain features disabled/changed. (84.128.73.21 (talk) 13:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC))

OK, thanks. --Joshua Issac (talk) 18:36, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

A reference would be http://forum.travian.de/showthread.php?t=23416 (in German) were a Team Member states that "It is T3 but feels more like T2" (Es ist zwar T3, spielt sich aber mehr wie T2.) (84.128.127.60 (talk) 13:00, 26 November 2008 (UTC))

The / Versions / section could be added back soon. --Joshua Issac (talk) 16:04, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

I believe it just was..... Stealth (talk)

T3.5 will start in February, also announcement on the .org-forum http://forum.travian.org/showthread.php?t=39965 141.41.97.215 (talk) 22:33, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. --Joshua Issac (talk) 23:21, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

WPVG Assessment

I am only bringing this article up to Start-Class, no-importance. The only difference from a stub is that there is significantly more content than a stub would normally have. Otherwise, it needs extensive cleanup before going any further. Most importantly, you need to establish via verifiable sources independent of the topic that this game is notable; otherwise, this article may be headed for deletion if not addressed. Article also needs to be referenced using reliable secondary sources. FAQs or primary sources do not count as reliable sources. The tone also needs to be cleaned up, as it reads like a game guide. I would suggest reading the manual of style for video game articles and try to follow those guidelines when cleaning up the article. Hope this helps, MuZemike (talk) 20:45, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

After much effort, I have managed to find sources for the award. --Joshua Issac (talk) 00:06, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Removal of the Controversies section

Please do not remove sourced content from the article without discussing it on the talk page. --Joshua Issac (talk) 16:09, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

While I am not the person who removed the controversies section, I myself believe that it is unneeded. Those have not really garnered the attention of the press, and the so-called "sources" are blogs. Blogs are not reliable third-party sources making it not notable by Wikipedian standards. It is really only a legend that only the Lithuanian players might care about (and could probably hear more from the older players on the forums if they so wished) and would not be something that a reader who wanted to know what Travian is. If you say that it provides an example of the poor management of Travian, this is an isolated incident pertaining purely to the Lithuanian servers, meaning that at most you could accuse the Lithuanian staff of corruption, etc, but it really has nothing to do with Travian in general.--ruby.red.roses 05:00, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it is unneeded, and it is already removed in Lithuanian Wikipedia. --Žmogus (talk) 20:04, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I have removed the section. Both sources are blogs and there seems to be no third-party coverage of the incident. --Joshua Issac (talk) 21:13, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

What is 'third party coverage' exactly? I'm just curious if all blogs are unacceptable, or if there are rare cases that are acceptable (like, if backed up with third-party coverage)? But unsure what that is, exactly. Tycoon24 (talk) 08:02, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Third-party coverage is where an independent party, like a newspaper or a reliable news website, covers the incident. Not all blogs are unacceptable. Please see Wikipedia:Reliable sources, Wikipedia:Verifiability#Self-published sources (online and paper) and Wikipedia:Verifiability#cite note-4 for more. --Joshua Issac (talk) 15:40, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

External links

I propose adding the Travian wikis (2 and 3) to the External links section as they are one of the largest sources of information on Travian and this article would not contain all that information if it became a featured article. --Joshua Issac (talk) 21:44, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

tribal wars

Why do people keep on removing text about tribal wars? Travian and Tribal wars are nearly identical in many (but not all) ways, and this is certainly worth mentioning. Xeos (talk) 16:09, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

A moderator (on the Travian forum) once implied that Travian copied buldings from Tribal Wars during a discussion started by someone who thought Tribal Wars copied Travian. Of course, we will need reliable sources if we want to mention it. --Joshua Issac (talk) 23:31, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

End game section clarification

I'm just wondering about a detail in the following sentence: "With every five levels that the Wonder is built, the Natars attack the villages with wonders until level 95..."
Does that mean:
1) the Natars attack only the villages which are building a Wonder?
or does it mean
2) the Natars attack using wonders (and wonders are some kind of weapon)?
Thanks. (I'm curious as both a Wikipedian & as a new Travian player.) --Tyranny Sue (talk) 05:28, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

It's 1.). --Joshua Issac (talk) 12:35, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks, Joshua! --Tyranny Sue (talk) 03:12, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

No problem. --Joshua Issac (talk) 16:01, 3 March 2009 (UTC)