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Dar de baja mi suscripción

Mi nombre es Manuel Grueso y mi correo es <correo> y quisiera darme de baja de esta página y dejar de recibir cada día, la imagen del día en mi correo. Dónde me puedo dar de baja, por favor quiero dejar de recibir cada día la imagen del día y no quiero formar parte de esta comunidad. Lo haceis vosotros mismos? Dónde puedo darme de baja? Respondan a mi correo que les he dado antes <correo> Gracias — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.136.209.131 (talk) 08:56, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Usted puede cambiar eso aquí. Jcb (talk) 11:59, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Moving Commons categories

I'm not sure if this a user problem per se, so I am going to add it here. An editor Gryffindor has been moving lots of Wikipedia articles related to Japanese subjects, etc. because apparently he/she feels that Japanese words such as en:Shogi and en:Dojo, etc. should be written using a macron. In almost every case, the move was not discussed and it many cases was subsequently reverted. Some move warring resulted in some cases, so there are ongoing discussions at some pages such as like en:Talk:Shogi#Shōgi which are trying to sort things out. Gryffindor has also been moving Commons categories like Category:Shogi. I'm not sure how interconnected category names for Commons are to category names for Wikipedia, but it seems lots of pages are being moved (based upon personal preferences, etc. and not relevant policies or guidelines) which might be better discussed first. COM:CAT#Category names mentions diacritics, but it doesn't really mention how to determine when they should be used; for example, there's Category:Dōjō (which was also moved by Gryfindor) and Category:Tokyo (and a whole lot of sub-categories), even though both words are of Japanese origin and "Tokyo" is technically written as "en:Tōkyō" when using the Latin alphabet in Japanese. So, I was wondering if an Commons administrator can take a look at these moves and possible clarify if they are OK. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:30, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

There was a fairly recent discussion relating to navigation-template breakage caused by some of these moves. It was probably on COM:HD but I can’t find it offhand; maybe someone else remembers.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 00:50, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Weird bug in uploads

Something apparently went wrong in several uploads last week. See e.g. File:Grover Cleveland Alexander LCCN2001704359.jpg. The first edit is missing and cannot be found in the deleted version. Does anybody have a clue about what the problem could be? Most files from Category:Media without a license as of 24 February 2018 seem to be affected. Jcb (talk) 14:03, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

I believe that some of my uploads were caught out on that day by a WMF outage. This allowed files to be uploaded via the API but "invisibly" failed to upload the image text pages. Some of these were listed in Phab:T179884, which I added to a maintenance category, removing the auto-added no source tags. There is no bot or other process for notifying me about uploads which fail this way. As this is not the first time, and it is caused by WMF server failures, it would be super nice if the WMF were to create a bot task to help with notification or other housekeeping. For all I know the text pages may have been held on the WMF servers somewhere and could have been recovered without eating up volunteer time to do custom fixes. -- (talk) 14:13, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Some other uploaders seem to have been affected by this bug as well that day. I am trying to undelete everything and I have placed a notice on top of Category:Media without a license as of 24 February 2018 for now. I am unable to complete the undeletion now, will do so around 23:00 UTC. Jcb (talk) 14:18, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
As far as I can see everything is undeleted. All of the 259 files currently in this category seem to be affected (three different uploaders). Jcb (talk) 22:40, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
How long we wanna wait, before deleting the images? I guess somebody has to add a description to make them valid. If nowbody is able or willing to, they should get deleted... --JuTa 00:23, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
We are not in a hurry, we can give it a few days. One of the involved uploaders, , requested undeletion. Also some analysis of this situation may be good and somebody may be willing to file a bug report. This will be easier when the files are undeleted for now. Jcb (talk) 01:18, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
I have repaired several of my uploads, these need to be done manually, one at a time. As this was a WMF outage problem, it's not something I "signed up for" and not caused by my actions. Being pushed with a time limit, when there is no doubt that all of my uploads are public domain, and were anyone to bother to use the unique IDs from the filenames they can work out a source to check the fact, looks like mindless bureaucracy. When this happens the minimal courtesy that should happen is that the uploader should get a list of files that have been left with blank image pages. At the current time, I'm not convinced that Category:Images uploaded by Fæ (metadata needed) contains all of my uploads that have been damaged in this incident.
BTW, it was claimed on my talk page but not on Phab, Artix Kreiger's actions were the root cause of the server failure. If that is the case, then perhaps they could invest some of their volunteer time doing the repairs. -- (talk) 04:46, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
Now there is a Phabricator task and a selection of the 21 February uploads is linked there, I am redeleting the files, except for 4 uploads from that still need fixed (he already fixed most files in the meantime). (And I will keep this bug in mind when processing this cat). Jcb (talk) 12:52, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
@Jcb: 21 February or 24 February?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 12:57, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
All these files were uploaded 21 February without a file page and then tagged as 'no license' a few days later, 24 February. See e.g. File:Grover Cleveland Alexander LCCN2001704359.jpg. Jcb (talk) 13:01, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
That's not all the affected files. I have 130+ still to repair in Category:Images uploaded by Fæ (metadata needed). All were uploaded on 21 Feb. I removed them from the backlog category, I presume a bot is not going to add them back. -- (talk) 13:13, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
Ok. If I come accross more files I will drop you a note. Jcb (talk) 13:46, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
no need to shift the blame on me. But feel free to delete them if one deems them un-salvageable. Artix Kreiger (talk) 04:50, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
We are not discussing your uploads, it is mine that are getting deleted, then undeleted, then repaired by me, rather than using my time on more productive projects. It's not really your call to encourage others to "feel free to delete".
The claim was made, it would be a pity if the root cause was not your actions and remains unknown. @Magog the Ogre: care to share some context? As the root cause is not clear in Phabricator, it probably could be usefully added there. Thanks -- (talk) 04:56, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
  • @: @Artix Kreiger: @Magog the Ogre: Woah woah.. Let's hold off here on blaming anyone. If MediaWiki allows a user to upload, intentionally or accidentally, 2 million bytes of text in one edit or the size of 50,000 categories (yes, I counted), then it is the blame of no user. If anything, Artix has found a software bug that can allow a single user to partially bring down the servers that needs to be patched immediately before someone uses it to their advantage. Let's move on from the finger pointing and get back to the issue at hand. ~riley (talk) 05:08, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
    I apologize if I offended anyone. Please understand that I am a engineer, so when I see a problem, I look for a reason. I didn't mean to assign "blame" as much as find a cause. Everyone makes mistakes which have entirely unforeseen consequences (personally I once brought down the entirety of Commons through my galleries).
    So if my assessment is correct, I don't think Artix did anything wrong, nor that the community should hold anything against him. In this case, Artix would be correct that the software is not coded optimally.
    Anyway, my assessment was just an initial educated guess based on years of being a software engineer and working with Mediawiki; but it could have been incorrect. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 19:57, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
While there has been no attempt to connect the two incidents, Artrix was able to exceed the maximum MediaWiki page size during creation. I have created a bug ticket for this at T188852. ~riley (talk) 21:59, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Exif-Data

Hello, is it possible to remove the name from the Exif-Data of my uploaded pictures ? I want to stay anonymous whilst im active on Wikipedia. --Aatwork (talk) 20:24, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

You can remove it from the original files with some free exif editor (6 files seem to be involved) and then upload the modified files over the old files (using the 'Upload a new version of this file' link). After that, please drop us a note and we will remove the old versions of the files. Jcb (talk) 20:37, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Request for information on deleted template

While editing a category page, I felt it would be appropriate to add the {{About}} template as used on Wikipedia. The Commons page of that name (Template:About) has been deleted many times, and the deletion log suggests that this was often because it contained inappropriate content (e.g. "Translite is a brand of solid, Embossed & Multiwall Polycarbonate..."). Would it be possible for someone to see if the page ever contained a working About hatnote template, and if so whether there was a consensus to delete it? Many thanks, GKFXtalk 22:17, 5 March 2018 (UTC).

The 20 July 2013 version contained such a template. It was speedy deleted without DR or consensus. You may consider filing an undeletion request here. Jcb (talk) 22:27, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Many thanks, I have filed a request. GKFXtalk 22:48, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Request for deletion

Hi, may any administrator delete Data:Wiki Loves in Spain/Wiki Loves Earth/2017/Log.tab? I can't properly edit it and need to remove it (see Commons:Help_desk#"The_content_format_application/json+pretty_is_not_supported_by_the_content_model_wikitext"). Thanks --Discasto talk 16:14, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done De728631 (talk) 23:42, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
@De728631: Thank you very much --Discasto talk 11:01, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

The file Wikipedia-logo-v2-pcd.svg is currently protected, and can be edited only by administrators. Can you link this file in Category:Picard Wikipedia logo. Thanks, Geoleplubo (talk) 12:00, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done De728631 (talk) 15:21, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Request for closing of the discussion

I have made a couple of deletion requests relating to my uploads recently, but after explanations by other users I realized that the reasons for removal are unsuitable. Please close both discussions ([1], [2]) as the consensus has already been reached. Ur frnd (talk) 18:37, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done. I closed both requests as kept. Taivo (talk) 19:20, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Video of the day with non-commercial CC license

For about another hour The Engineering of the Drinking Bird.webm is the video of the day. I watched it just now and had to notice at the end that very clearly the cc-by-nc-sa logo can be seen. How to deal with this? The file is in use not alone because of being VOTD. Unfortunately YouTube does not seem to distinguish between NC or not NC, cf. Creative Commons - YouTube Help. — Speravir – 22:51, 7 March 2018 (UTC) :BTW ping @Racconish. — Speravir – 00:31, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Ping also @1Veertje. — Speravir – 00:46, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
If the copyright holder indeed granted a CC BY licence when uploading it to YouTube, then I suppose we can consider it multi-licensed. (AIUI that implies that NC derivative works can be kept that way by choosing the CC BY-NC-SA licence but, equally, anyone can choose to treat this version as simply CC BY.) As long as there‘s a free licence in place, it could have © symbols in every frame, with no effect on the permission.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 07:10, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
The author has indeed elected to distribute this video through YouTube under the CC-BY license, which is the only option given by YouTube beside their normal licence, and the license is irrevocable. It seems all his other videos at YouTube are under the same license (see Category:EngineerGuy). Nevertheless, you can contact the author, Bill Hammack, who is easily reachable through his website, and ask him to clarify his intention. Depending on his reaction, we can nominate the file for deletion. — Racconish 07:38, 8 March 2018 (UTC) ping Hammack who might be related to Bill Hammack (see the comment here) and seems to be also uploading here EngineerGuy's videos under the same CC-BY. 08:00, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Informal undeletion acceptable?

There is now freedom of panorama in Albania, see also new template {{FoP-Albania}}. Processing this recent undeletion request, Yann has restored most images found in Category:Albanian FOP cases/deleted. Fine :-) - but there are more that weren't categorized there in the past and can/should now be restored, e.g. Commons:Deletion requests/File:ALB 20070713 img 1232 (detail).jpg and some other requests found at User talk:Albinfo. As an admin, I'm not sure: is it okay if I just restore such images when I come across them and consider them acceptable under Albania's new FoP, or have they all to go through a formal undeletion request? Gestumblindi (talk) 21:49, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

 Comment In my opinion it's OK to restore without formalities, but please write after closing comment a restore comment, so that everybody would understand, when, why and by whom the file was restored. Taivo (talk) 11:56, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
@Taivo: Thanks for the reply, I have now restored some files linked from said discussion page (I see you have restored some, too, thanks again!); I didn't restore the bust from Commons:Deletion requests/Image:Hoxha Bust.jpg because I'm not sure that it was located in a public space when the image was taken. Certainly there are more images from Albania to be found that can be restored now. Gestumblindi (talk) 01:28, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I have checked all deletion requests in Category:Albanian FOP cases/deleted. All pictures taken in public places have been restored. Regards, Yann (talk) 06:42, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

user tags all his uploads as copyvios

This afternoon, Fabriciofffs (talk · contribs) tagged all his remaining uploads (mostly colorful landscape photos) as "copyvio", without providing further information. All of them had been uploaded in 2015 already. I report this here to catch some eventual background story (angried user or alike), so far unknown to me.
However, after scanning through the files, it seems quite plausible that they may indeed be copyvios, which would be quite a failure of our recent-upload patroling:

Finally, what should we do which such a user, who has exposed re-users of uploads to copyright-litigation by the true rightsholder(s), indef? --Túrelio (talk) 16:57, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

@Túrelio: didn’t you catch that “Fabriciofffs” is rather appropriate nick for one Fabricio F. Silva? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 17:03, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Might be. But, for a new upload it should have been verified at time of upload, which obviously didn't happen. --Túrelio (talk) 17:11, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
I have reverted the copyvio-tagging for now, a DR on a part of these files may be appropriate though. I see this user has previously nominated a part of their 2015 uploads in 2016 as copyvio, these files got deleted. Jcb (talk) 17:14, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Indeed, look at File:Fernando_de_Noronha_8.jpg#fileinfotpl_aut. First of all, on which grounds were other images from this series deleted? “BELO HORIZONTE” doesn’t look to be a personal name, but it could arouse suspicions in certain quarters. pt:Wikipédia:Pedido de remoção imediata de violação de direitos de autor #Solicito_a_remoção_imediata_por_violação_de_direitos_de_autor may be a piece of the story too. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 18:01, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
 Comment I creared a DR: Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Fabriciofffs. Regards, Yann (talk) 06:56, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Valuable Images deletion request

I've apparently submitted the following two pages wrong in the Valuable Images and Featured picture section to be assessed. Could the three following pages be deleted?

To delete the above pages, not to delete the individual images. --Adamdaley

✓ Done --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 00:44, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Requesting consensus analysis on File:Papa Juhani Mikstuur.jpg

The discussion at Commons:Village pump/Copyright#File:Papa Juhani Mikstuur.jpg, which I started, needs a consensus analysis by an uninvolved editor please. It can be closed if necessary. Thanks. George Ho (talk) 00:57, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Please note that the very first photo of the Fortitude Valley Police Station (LHS) needs to be reversed. You can see by looking at the station's name and the clock that it needs editing. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2001:8003:74D9:B101:A93D:52EA:8740:D204 (talk) 23:18, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done but these sort of requests belong at Graphic Labs and not the Administrator' noticeboard. Bidgee (talk) 02:17, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Permanent protection

Could an Admin please permanently protect the following page: User:2eight/licence Rationale beeing that the user applies this license information template without subsetting it. I informed the user already on the talk page about this request here as well as that personal licences are not a preferred practise on commons. --Schlurcher (talk) 22:20, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

I don't see a reason to protect the file for the following reasons:
  • The file is on less than 10,000 pages and would be considered low risk for transclusion vandalism. Even if it were a template, it would not be protected.
  • By protecting the license, the user can no longer edit an article in their own user space which was created to be customized by them.
Substituting the file is a very bad idea and should not be recommended, that would add a mess of wikicode and an additional 6,000 characters to each file. ~riley (talk) 06:13, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
@~riley: Doesn't leaving them unsubsted violate COM:USER?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 04:44, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: According to Commons:User-specific galleries, templates and categories#Regarding licenses, no. ~riley (talk) 04:46, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
“Regarding license templates: if the user-specific template incorporates a standard license template, the user-specific template should be subst:ed in use.” It has CC license. — regards, Revi 10:05, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
It has a non-standard license template, CC or not. ~riley (talk) 20:23, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Please consider this as a speedy deletion request as the Flickr user was not really wished to license this ten photos. She is very old and was operating as I instructed. Jee 11:03, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done Yann (talk) 11:18, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! Jee 11:28, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

can't update file

Hi. I went to update a file I uploaded, File:World marriage-equality laws.svg, and it says "You cannot overwrite this file". The file is not protected, at least not according to its talk page. I'm not blocked, at least not that I've been informed. A user did challenge me on editing the file, but they were a sock of a banned user and have since been blocked. Kwamikagami (talk) 18:44, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Amazingly… a former en.Wikipedia sysop has serious troubles reading page logs. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 18:49, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
I am more amazed by the comment "I'm not blocked, at least not that I've been informed" from a former admin. I would have thought you'd rule that out by being able to edit, but you do you. The file is protected (page history, in Category:Upload protected files, protection template in source and protection lock in top right hand corner). In such a case, you may file an edit request on the talk page and upload the version you'd intend as a new file (i.e. File:World marriage-equality laws (ER).svg for an admin to merge over. Alternatively you can make an edit request with the SVG source you'd like changed and I can manually add it in. ~riley (talk) 19:20, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
Being able to edit doesn't mean I'm not blocked. For all I know Commons has different degrees of block.
Uploaded at that temp site.
But this file should not be protected to this extent. It's going to need frequent revision as events develop. The rational of "excessive vandalism" is spurious -- there's been no vandalism. Even User Growupon, who's been blocked indefinitely as a sock, was disputing the content, not vandalizing the article. Otherwise the updates are normal traffic for the file, with the expected reverts of any reporting of current events. E.g. User Sander000 reverted me when I updated the map on the status of the EU per the WP article, because the WP article was inaccurate. That doesn't warrant protection. Kwamikagami (talk) 20:08, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
Equality laws aren't developing that fast.. Call it what you want, excessive vandalism, disruption, sockpuppetry; the reality is that the file has excessive reversion dating back over an extended period of time. I count 72 reverts alone, this file needs less uploading and more discussion and so far, indef protection seems the way to do it. ~riley (talk) 20:21, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Can an Admin please delete the first low resolution upload version of this image? Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 21:32, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done. --Túrelio (talk) 21:36, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Please delete the first version (2017-06-08 21:16 (UTC)). That version is my mistake. Thanks. --Garam talk 18:57, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done. --Túrelio (talk) 19:18, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Unnecessary categories.

Can an admin please delete these new categories by IP 144.138.80.35? All the signs added to these categories are properly organized under SADC sub-cats.

Fry1989 eh? 22:30, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Fry1989, what do you mean by SADC? Category:SADC doesn't exist, and I don't know what the acronym stands for. Nyttend (talk) 23:27, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
The Southern African Development Community. The signs are part of a convention created by SADC and are organized under Category:Diagrams of road signs of the Southern African Development Community, and then sub-categorized under those countries which are party to the convention. Fry1989 eh? 23:29, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you. I have found several more categories created by this IP which are lack sources and are unnecessary.

Fry1989 eh? 16:11, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

speedy deletion of files

Please, speedy deletion - sorry, all bad named.

The corretly name:

-- Bwag (talk) 22:16, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Bwag: ✓ Done Next time, please use {{Rename}}. Regards, Yann (talk) 05:24, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
thx! -- Bwag (talk) 08:02, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Review

Hello, any admin or LW please review this file.--√Jæ√ 08:14, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done by Racconish. — Speravir – 01:13, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Deleted picture

Hi, I was wondering, why my picture was deleted from this article (https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lietpak) and what can I do better to keep it there? Lietpak (talk) 13:46, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

@Lietpak: Hi,
The file deleted (File:Įmonės teritorija.jpg) is not your picture, so it is a copyright violation. Regards, Yann (talk) 16:47, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
@Yann:
I have a permission from the owner, to publish it. should i write the licence type in the wiki text {promotional}? Lietpak (talk) 17:30, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
@Lietpak: Please ask the copyright owner to send the permission to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org (see COM:OTRS for the instructions). Be aware that we need a permission for a free license, not just for Wikipedia. Regards, Yann (talk) 17:59, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

File:Wikisanta.jpg (histlogsabuse log)

Hello! Could you delink this file? Currently 96 pages use it. For your information; on the Hungarian Wikipedia we replaced it to File:Christmas Wikipedia Logo.png. Thanks and best regards, Bencemac (talk) 16:39, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Arbalete

Arbalete is a user who was blocked in it.wikipedia several times for edit-warring and personal attacks, and who's currently blocked permanently for his persistent non-collaborative behaviour. Recently on commons he has made massive vandalic editing: he renamed manually (without using the "Move" button) all categories and files about the Italian town of "Cirié" changing the accent to "Ciriè". This city is named "Cirié" in all the other projects, in fact in its official municipal statute the name is spelled like that: Statuto del Comune di Cirié. I've tried discussing with him, explaining why his edits are non-constructive, that in all the projects the name is spelled "Cirié", and what I've just said about the statute. The result was just that he kept repeating that the statute isn't a valid source since and it's wrong because it goes against Italian orthograhic rules... Well, such rules, despite his words, don't prescribe the grave accent over final E, since both accents are possible ("caffè" with grave and "perché" with acute), and in the current case the proper noun has the acute accent, as reported by the statute. There's more: the same day he made that massive vandlism, an anonymous user tried changing the spelling of the category on wikidata, as you can see here. This IP, 2.205.18.95, has already been blocked several times for non-collaborative behaviour in it.wikipedia. I strongly believe that they're the same user. And there's even more: in it.wikipedia, on the 26th of October 2017, a pair of IPs tried changing manually the accent in the article about Cirié, which had to be protected by a sysop; the same day, one of these IPs, 178.0.208.141, made the same massive renaming on commons which Arbalete made again some time later. I can't help thinking that Arbalete is continuously anonymising himself to vandalise in different projects without being identified by admins, but even if the vandals behind the IPs were different users Arbalete would be supporting their vandalisms. May somebody take care of this problem? I'm not saying he must be blocked here too, nor all of his edits must be reverted, but just that he must understand that his massive renaming from a correct form to an uncorrect one is a vandalism and so he must stop with this kind of edits. Thank you in advance! 2A02:1778:113:0:0:0:0:29 13:14, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi, You must inform a user when you are reporting them on a board. Regards, Yann (talk) 15:41, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
@Yann: Yann, since you've done it yourself and this detail is now solved (anyway, he'd been already warned yesterday that I was going to inform admins), may you take care of the case or is there something else?
2A02:1778:113:0:0:0:0:29 17:25, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
According to the rules of the italian language the correct ortography is Ciriè. My opinion is that commons.wiki should follow the sources, and not the decisions of it.wiki. By the way, it.wiki sometimes doesn't follow the correct italian ortography.--Arbalete (talk) 13:07, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
Too bad this report isn't about Italian language conventions but about a cross-wiki vandal, whose account has already been blocked permanently in Italian wiki and who's currently editing there as an anonymous IP not to be identified (even if his IPs have been blocked anyway by admins who identified him). However, the "Cirié" issue is about the "official" spelling of this Comune whose primary source are the municipal site and the official statute, but again in Italian grave accent isn't prescribed over final E but only over final O.
2A01:7C8:AAAE:2B3:1097:B693:F7B0:9412 17:58, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
This is false. The ortographical rules of the italian language could not be changed by a page of the official site of a municipality.--Arbalete (talk) 14:52, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
Here the italian rules on the use of accents.--Arbalete (talk) 14:54, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
Again (and I'm highlighting this concept): this report isn't about Italian language conventions but about a cross-wiki vandal, Arbalete AKA Friedrichstrasse, who after having been permanently blocked in it.wikipedia for persistent vandalising has kept coming back as an anonymous user with German IPs, and lately here on commons has been making non-consensual massive renaming against sources and Wikipedian conventions. I wonder why admins (such as @Bidgee, Zhuyifei1999, Racconish, Taivo, and De728631: ) haven't taken care of this report yet. Anyway, just to answer back to the vandal's affirmations about Italian language and to prove they're false... First, the official spelling of a city isn't established by grammar books but by its official statute, consider for esample spelling not involving grammar conventions such as the user of symbol "-" between 2 proper names or the fact that a full proper name is written with or without a space inside it. Second, have you even read that books introduction? It's a book written by 2 journalists and bloggers (not linguists) of the Italian newspaper "La Stampa" about the grammar conventions adopted by "that" newspaper, in fact you can even read that it isn't to be intender either as a grammar or as a dictionary. Third, both in the Italian essential grammar by DeAgostini at page 20 and in the Italian language reference portal it's said that the grave accent occurs in "some" proper nouns, not in "all" of them. The previous argumentation was just to show the lack of justification for the massive renaming made by the vandal, I invite again admins to focus on this fact instead of Italian grammar conventions, and I'd like to point out one more thing, a new one: Arbalete himself has linked "books.google.de", which is one more evidence that he's the cross-wiki vandal using German IPs here, on wikidata and in Italian wiki to bypass his block and to edit without being identified as Arbalete. I hope that admins will read and reply to this report as soon as possible.
2A01:7C8:AAAE:2B3:E049:8492:A2D1:97B7 16:15, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
The official site of this city uses "Ciriè", "Cirié" and also "Cirie". In Italy it's very common to be imprecise when it goes about ortography (for example it's very common to find "perchè" instead of "perché", or "E'" instead of È.--Arbalete (talk) 16:55, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
For the 3rd time: "this report isn't about Italian language conventions but about a cross-wiki vandal"... But I understand your behaviour. You're trying to change the focus of the attention, because if here we were talking just about your vandalic edits nobody would have any doubt in blocking you also on commons. Anyway, in the muninipal site "Cirié" is by some order of magnitude more frequent than "Ciriè" and "Cirie'", plus the official statute is named "Statuto del Comune di Cirié" and in its 1st article we can read "Comune di Cirié". Period.
2A01:7C8:AAAE:2B3:E049:8492:A2D1:97B7 17:58, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
TL;DR? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 17:03, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
In short, Arbalete is an already blocked user in it.wikipedia for vandalism, lately he's been anonymising himself with German IPs not to be identified as Arbalete so that he could still make all the edits he wanted here, on wikidata and in it.wikipedia (despite this, his IPs were blocked again in the Italian wiki). Here on commons he's recently done a massive renaming campaign, by changing all the categories and files about "Cirié" from the correct spelling to "Ciriè". He did this with no consensus, against sources and against the spelling found in each other projects. What's your opinion about this?
2A01:7C8:AAAE:2B3:E049:8492:A2D1:97B7 17:58, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
Since I was - inappropriately - pinged: "as a matter of principle it's best to leave all files with generally valid names at their locations, even if slightly better names may exist". — Racconish 17:34, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
I'm thanking you for your answering. Arbalete did exactly this: he changed something like 25 pages between categories and files. Plus, they already had the "better" name, the name used in every other project and the name attested in the official municipal statute of the town. On these bases, how do you think we should deal with him and these edits of his?
2A01:7C8:AAAE:2B3:E049:8492:A2D1:97B7 17:58, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
The name is not attested anywere: the municipal site is very imprecise (as the most italian sites are, when it goes to ortography).--Arbalete (talk) 18:57, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
Said the Italian vandal who was blocked for damaging Wikipedia to sustain his opinions, and who anonymised himself with German IPs again and again to bypass the block but was blocked again and again. I think admins should consider this to draw their conclusions. Besides this, Cirié municipal site heading is "Città di Cirié" (with grave accent over the A and acute accent over E) and the official statute is called "Statuto del Comune di Cirié". Which prevails over any possible imprecision elsewhere. Arbalete's massive renaming on commons without consensus is definitely amiss.
2A01:7C8:AAAE:2B3:E049:8492:A2D1:97B7 19:20, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Deletion

By mistake my bot Jæbot has uploaded some Flickr & Geograph images but it is not its task. So, any admin delete those files.--√Jæ√ 16:03, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Are these the last 10 files in its edit-list? -Túrelio (talk) 16:17, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
✓ Done --Krd 16:23, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

I may be completely misunderstanding something here -- if so, my apologies. I also should say that I have not found a problem with the work here, just a concern over process.

Why is B Dash, who is neither Administrator nor Bureaucrat, running Commons:Administrators/Inactivity section/Feb-Mar 2018. The last time he or she got involved with the list of Administrators, it caused some confusion. My concern here is that if someone who has not been chosen as a trusted member of the community runs this process, there is considerable opportunity for error and malfeasance, so that someone else will need to spend time auditing the results.

I also wonder why Steward User:Ajraddatz is acting on the request of B Dash and removing the Admin permission. Although I don't understand why our Bureaucrats cannot perform that function -- they do it on WP:EN among others -- it seems to me that a Steward should not be using his powers without a stronger audit trail. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 11:01, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

There is no policy who schould run the inactivity section, generally it is done by crats/admins. No idea why nobody (crat) did it this time. But i don't think Ajraddatz schould be blamed for removed access pursuant to our policy. But i agree with you that only trusted users such as admin/crat (preferably crat) schould run such a inactivity section.--Steinsplitter (talk) 11:40, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
Volunteers helping run useful reports is a good thing, the only limitation should be the natural one that non-sysops cannot rely on sysop rights to check deleted media or take action. If there is an issue with how this report needs to be created transparently with published code, and hence aid accountability in case it is not done correctly, that could do with being laid out more clearly as an issue. At the same time, it makes sense for these particular notifications to sysops to be done by a Bureaucrat or long established sysop.
It would have been polite to raise this with B Dash before making an AN thread about it. B Dash may have offered to refrain from doing this without a hoo-ha. Though the intent here may be to refine guidelines or norms, it reads as a criticism of B Dash. Thanks -- (talk) 11:49, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
This user had even made a request at Meta please clear requests here before going on to Meta. Whereas B dash has notified on talkpage for de-adminship yesterday and so early even requested at meta which I personally feel wrong and requested bureaucrats to have a check on this --✝iѵɛɳ२२४०†ลℓк †๏ мэ 11:59, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
I didn't get pinged for some reason, but I'm happy to explain. I originally was suspicious of the request from B dash, and was going to ping a local crat to confirm, or leave the request. But I looked through past inactivity runs, noticed that he seemed to be involved in the process without issue here, and couldn't find anything in the local policy saying that such requests had to come from a bureaucrat or admin. If you decide differently here, please codify it in your local policies or let the stewards know in some way so we are aware for the future. Regards, Ajraddatz (talk) 16:29, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
As for the "audit trail", a request was made on m:SRP and I actioned it. That is completely standard for any steward-mediated removal of permissions. You are welcome to start a local discussion on letting bureaucrats remove sysop/crat flags locally if you wish, but currently only the stewards are empowered to do so here. Ajraddatz (talk) 16:32, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Jim has raised a very valid and interesting point but if B Dash runs this check without a problem, I don't think I would have any issue with it considering that this user is in good standing on this project and there is no policy prohibiting any non-admin from doing it. Policy allows Ajraddatz to act on such request from non-admin if there is no policy prohibiting the request. Regards. Wikicology (talk) 17:41, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
  • If there's any questions that should be asked here, it should be to the bureaucrats (of which the OP is one) as to why they are not taking initiative to run the inactivity runs. --Rschen7754 18:28, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
I've notified our crats about this thread. --Túrelio (talk) 19:27, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
  • As far as I can see, B dash has done a good job (other concerns notwithstanding). I note that @Odder: has been involved in the inactivity runs for the past few years but it seems not this run. Certainly Odder and B dash seemed to coordinate the previous run, so perhaps Odder has been keeping an eye on the process? Green Giant (talk) 19:31, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
    I have watched the inactivity run and I second that B dash has done a good job. Removals have been done in the meantime and I'd say there is nothing left to do now.
    Of course it is concerning that none out of 8 crats have commented at Commons:Administrators/Inactivity section/Feb-Mar 2018. From my personal point of view it wasn't necessary as I noticed no mistake and no objections or concerns have been raised. Anyway, if anybody feels ready to apply for crat status, feel free to go ahead. --Krd 09:17, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Thanks for doing, and I apologize for any inconvenience. --B dash (talk) 11:16, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
  • There still haven't been any notices sent to those who were desysopped. --Rschen7754 00:35, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Block evasion by IP

When an IP is an obvious sock of an indefinitely-blocked user, how long do we normally block the IP? COM:BLOCK didn't address the issue at all. Nyttend (talk) 19:02, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Duration and extent of an IP block depends on character of an IP address. A static IP in personal use by a long-time abuser may be hard-blocked for months. A static IP shared by several users (NAT) may be soft-blocked for months. It is silly to point-block dynamic IPs for longer than ∼ 3 days, but in case of determined attempts to edit the site a range may be soft-blocked for some time. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 19:07, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you. This is Look2See1; he's only made a few edits here with this address, but over at my en:wp talk page, someone's pointed out this address making tons of his typical edits for 2+ months now, so I think we can call it stable. Nyttend (talk) 19:55, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Out of process deletion of files by User:Hystrix

Four nights ago, administrator User:Hystrix deleted a large number of files, apparently from a specific Flickr account, giving the rationale: "Uploaded files of a blocked user. To prevent harm from new tenant. -"

Several users including me asked Hystrix on their talk page why that action was performed. Hystrix did not link to any policy reason or deletion discussion that would justify this action. They did link to a Commons user's block discussion and a deletion discussion for some entirely different files from the same Flickr account.

Could another admin please restore these files? They can always be nominated for deletion again if there is an actual problem with any of them. Tokfo (talk) 19:11, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

  •  Admin's note: Please do not undelete these files without community consensus, wheel warring is not appropriate with dealing with such a magnitude. ~riley (talk) 20:04, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
  • @Hystrix: I'll start off by saying that deleting or even editing 10,000 files using semi-automated or automated tools is the job of a bot, and requires the permission of the community for not only the mass logs but the task at hand. Deleting 10,418 files without community consensus was a bad decision, it would be even a worse decision for an admin to come along and undelete them without community consensus due to the magnitude that we are dealing with here. So far, from what I have seen (correct me if I am wrong), there is no policy that has been referenced in this deletion and no discussion that has established consensus for these deletions either. Mass-deletions are extremely controversial and never should be based off of a sole admin's opinion in regards to the matter. I am going to remain neutral in regards to support or oppose for undeletion, but in either case, there needs to be consensus for how we move forward which should be discussed below. ~riley (talk) 20:04, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Hystrix (talk · contribs) should browse through delinker logs and fix massive damage at least partially. Failure to do anything to mitigate consequences of reckless deletions may be grounds for sanctions. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 20:22, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 Comment: While I wasn't directly involved in the discussions about this Flickr-account on :de, it's clear to me that Hystrix's intent was to avert danger (of costly copyright-litigation) from re-users. On :de Wikipedia re-users have complained about receiving costly cease and desist orders on behalf of this Flickr-user for minor infractions of the licensing terms.[3]
As not all of you may know, the copyright law of Germany and Austria allows the copyright-holder to issue a so-called Abmahnung (sort of Cease and desist) against anyone who in his opinion infringes his copyright, without first calling a court. The typical cost of an Abmahnung is between 500 and 1200 Euros for 1 image. As no court is involved, there is no independant evaluation of the case. Many people pay the amount requested in order to avoid going to court, as this might be even more costly. IANAL. --Túrelio (talk) 20:34, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
 Question @Túrelio: could you clarify what do you mean, please? Is it about “avoid images from this source because the rights holder is a costly troll”? Or about “we understand legal implications of Flickr licensing wrt users from Germany and Austria too poorly”? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 20:45, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
@Incnis Mrsi, it's somewhere in between. Issueing an Abmahnung it legally o.k., well, to some degree. Originally this process was put into law to deal with business vs. business quarrels, to relieve the courts. But, wrt copyright it is often used business vs. private persons (for example blog-owners). That's morally questionable, IMO, at least when several hundreths of Euros are requested. --Túrelio (talk) 21:04, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
The real question is then; why isn't Wikimedia Legal involved in this? It is not the job of a sole admin to delete 10,000 files in regards to a legal matter, Wikimedia Legal should have been sought out before any decisions were made. Last time I checked, assessing the threat of actual copyright litigation is not in our job descriptions as administrators and making any intent to avert danger is also not within our roles. Hence why we do not handle DMCA takedowns. ~riley (talk) 20:57, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
Well, WMF-Legal's job is WMF, not re-users, not users. At least that's what they officially say.
"making any intent to avert danger is also not within our roles" — well; suppose we learn that a photographer/copyright-holder has a business model of (ab)using Commons/Wikipedia to targetedly expose his images to a broad public, well aware that some re-users will not comply 100 percent with the license terms (I am not talking about blatantly copyviolating re-use) and then extracting quite some money from these usually non-commercial re-users. Would you put your hands in the lap and do nothing? (sorry for the suggestive wording) By maintaining Commons we may unintentionally provide a platform for such practices. I'm aware that this is not a binary problem; but this case might be beyond what's acceptable. --Túrelio (talk) 21:22, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
Sounds like a clear cut case of a en:Copyright troll. If reusers are being exposed to thousands of dollars of potential litigation that is indeed a problem. And, no, WMF-Legal is not going to help. Their job is to protect the foundation. Not reusers. I would have preferred if Hystrix at least posted somewhere on Commons that this was occurring but if this is actually what is happening it seems like we should not allow a troll to continue to use Commons for their own monetary gain. --Majora (talk) 21:28, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
You are correct on many levels, WMF has no role in the original issue and I would not sit by and allow this to happen as an administrator, however, they should be involved in regards to the mass-deletion of files in regards to litigation or be involved for taking action against the user with their business model (global lock). Considering Hystrix spent three days deleting these files (when it should have been done in one go by an adminbot), it is quite clear this was not a time sensitive manner and there is no excuse for lack of community discussion. I'd like to know why an admin feels it is appropriate for them to 1) Perform a task at bot speeds 2) Perform a task involving 10,000 files 3) Perform a task without consensus or approval 4) Fail to notify the community of their actions. ~riley (talk) 21:37, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

(EC) I have taken some time to read about this user here and at DE wiki and I am perfectly fine with this mass deletion. It seems very clear to me that this user uploaded the files (and spread them over articles where the images were inappropriate, also using a sock farm), with the apparent purpose to make money from it by chasing reusers. This user owns a tool (plaghunter.com) and uses it to find reuse. Users have reported to have received bills of over 400 Euros from this person for minor inconformities. This comes close to criminal behaviour or may even be over the legal line. Wikimedia Commons has no place for such business. Jcb (talk) 21:34, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

If some users think we should delete files whose copyright is being too strictly (however strictly that is) enforced, then they should start an RFC to get such a policy adopted. We don't have a policy to delete files for that reason; as long as we don't, yes, we should "put our hands in the lap and do nothing" about that. Tokfo (talk) 21:37, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
In some cases copyright trolls send these letters to people who are not actually in violation of the license. It is cheaper to just pay the requested amount instead of going to court about it. This is a form of extortion and while illegal people can make an enormous amount of money from it because it is just easier to pay than deal with the potential court fees. It costs a lot more than 400 euros to fight something in court. You think Commons should be party to this type of activity? Start a RfC regarding copyright trolls then. --Majora (talk) 21:42, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
If somebody is sending fraudulent cease and desist letters to people, then even with a new policy there isn't anything we could possibly do against that. Anybody can send fraudulent cease and desist letters to anybody about any work, including people who aren't even the copyright holders. The kind of situation you describe is a matter for the legal system and has nothing to do with Commons. Tokfo (talk) 06:40, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Mir war vor der Löschung die Komplexität der Materie nicht bewusst. Ich hätte vorher einen Löschantrag stellen sollen. Mein Fehler. Als Mitglied von de:OTRS habe ich mehrfach Beschwerden über hohe Abmahnungforderungen des Hochladers gelesen, auch von erfahrenen Nachnutzern, bei nur kleinen Fehlern der Kennzeichnung. User:Túrelio hat zu diesem Problem weiter oben geschrieben. Das Problem mit den Abmahnungen gibt es wohl in weiteren Ländern wie Kolumbien (siehe [4]). Der Hochlader geht vermutlich bei der Durchsetzung seiner monetären Forderungen recht perfide vor, wie eine Nachnutzerin es per Mail an de:WP schilderte. Um weitere, auch unbedarfte Nachnutzer zu schützen, habe ich die Dateien gelöscht. Dieses Geschäftsmodell, Dateien in Massen hochladen und bei auch nur kleinen Fehlern der Nachnutzung, ohne vorherige Nachfrage via Mail, sofort einen Geldbetrag einzufordern widerspricht meiner Meinung nach den Richtlinien des Projekts. An einer weiteren Diskussion, ob diese Dateien wiederhergestellt werden sollen, werde ich mich nicht beteiligen. Falls Hilfe bei der Wiederherstellung benötigt wird, werde ich mich beteiligen.
(Translation via google: Before the erasure, I was unaware of the complexity of the matter. I should have asked for a deletion request beforehand. My mistake. As a member of de: OTRS, I have read several complaints about high warning requirements of the uploader, even from experienced reusers, with only small errors of labeling. User: Túrelio has written on this issue further up. The problem with the warnings there are probably in other countries such as Colombia (see ([5]). The uploader is probably in the enforcement of his monetary demands quite perfidious before, as a reusers it by Mail to de: WP described. To protect further, also inoffensive Nachnutzer, I deleted the files. This business model, files in bulk upload and with only small errors of the reuse, without prior request via email to claim a cash immediately contradicts, in my opinion, the guidelines of the project and I will not participate in any further discussion on whether these files should be restored.) Hystrix (talk) 22:10, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
Personally, I think the matter is settled with Hystrix's response. It seems we all agree that the deletions were out of process and should have been done through a regular DR. Hystrix acted out of good intentions, apologized for the mistake and offered to help fix the mistake if the community requests it. Now that the damage is done, we should not mass-undelete, but process potential undeletion via the normal UnDR process.
I wonder whether it's time we need some kind of policy or guidelines regarding abusive rights holders, though that's something to be discussed on the Village Pump or in an RFC. Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 05:23, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
I don't understand what could be the purpose of individual undeletion requests for >10000 files. The files were all deleted for the same "reason", so either all of them should be restored or none of them. Tokfo (talk) 07:03, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
I never said anything about individual UnDRs. But potential undeletion should be discussed on a community forum, not the Administrator's board. Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 08:49, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
@Tokfo: do you deny people from wikis the right to use correctly licensed images on their own discretion? Possibly a special warning template {{Copyright trolling}} has to be designed for this purpose, but Commons should not force such precautions upon the whole Wikimedia. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 08:50, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
@Incnis Mrsi: Are you confusing me with someone else? I already agree with you, which is why I started this thread. Tokfo (talk) 09:25, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
Not confused, but possibly did not recognize a straw-man argument. There is some community support for mass deletion of the produce of the copyright troll. In other words, anything licensed by the troll is by default not admitted to Wikimedia Commons. But if several pictures are valuable enough to be used in spite of danger, and if there are strong supporters for particular causes, then why not to undelete few files for which benefits outweigh risk? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 10:05, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
In accordance with this discussion, I have made an undeletion request. Tokfo (talk) 20:13, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Christian Ferrer is deleting my pic on the MES WIKI section

The Admin Christian ferrer is deleting Pics that are clearly for MES WIKI page for Mind Eye Society LARP games. I have uploaded pic of my self on Aztec and other Customs, use filters to shape the image as gothic vampire related.

I don't know how to contact him and tell him to stop.

Please I need help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramonpazos (talk • contribs) 06:51, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Hint: Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_Ramonpazos. Sänger (talk) 07:51, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
 Not done The images in question are not deleted, yet. Please participate in the discussion linked by Sänger. Nothing to be done here. Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 08:29, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Revdel request

Resolved

Hi, Could someone revdel this please, I'm assuming the IP is an LTA who seemingly has some sort of grudge against me, No idea, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 15:51, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done --Steinsplitter (talk) 15:52, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
Brilliant thanks Steinsplitter much appreciated :), –Davey2010Talk 15:55, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Note: A global lock is requested for proxies 187.45.179.165 (talk contribs Luxo's SUL deleted contribs logs block user block log ) and 187.45.179.164 (talk contribs Luxo's SUL deleted contribs logs block user block log ). Incnis Mrsi (talk) 16:46, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Can someone please block 158.85.76.229, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 16:51, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
✓ Done 187.45.176.0/20 for three days. --Steinsplitter (talk) 17:01, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

User:Lingveno

I posted about this user at Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/Blocks_and_protections/Archive_23#User:Lingveno a week ago, but nothing was done. They are proxying for a blocked user who was using commons uploads in an extortion racket. There is an awful lot of clean up left to be done. Smartse (talk) 10:50, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

@Smartse: Regarding en:User_talk:Lingveno, just to clarify: Did he got bought by a blocked editor (Wuestenigel and socks) to upload files of the blocked editor? --Steinsplitter (talk) 13:28, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
@Steinsplitter: Thanks for the email - interwiki pings are useless! They didn't explain what happened, but that seems like the likeliest explanation. They presumably didn't know why they were doing it, but they added the images to several articles over several wikis. Semso98 claimed to have been contacted on social media and did it is a favour, but given the links to sockfarms I find that hard to believe. Smartse (talk) 17:11, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

By the way, I deem this conduct of Jeff_G. disrespectful and harmful. It is perfectly possible that Lingveno was “bought” (i.e. contracted) to make some uploads, but one requires an extraordinary evidence to broadcast sockpuppetry accusations against an established Wikimedian never having reputation of a deceiver. Jeff, either search for evidence now (this, of course, doesn’t qualify) or apologize for personal attack. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 05:53, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

@Incnis Mrsi: I never accused User:Lingveno of sockpuppetry. I thought all the files in Category:Images by Marco Verch were by Marco Verch. Where's your evidence and why didn't you notify me of the above?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 09:20, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
The posting referred by the diff above was placed in a section with files mostly (if not totally) uploaded by Lingveno, not already blocked Wuestenigel. IMHO “uploader is using them to inappropriately pepper pages in multiple projects” (emphasis mine) in this context is explicit and unambiguous; and see that it was not corrected. If it is not about socking by Lingveno, then about what? @Jeff G.: I pinged you and, moreover, you are a regular on admins’ noticeboards. Sorry, did not expect that a missing user_talk message may offend you. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 17:40, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
@Incnis Mrsi: I modified it, ok?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 20:17, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Good. @Jeff G.: may we consider the incident resolved? I became paranoid about baseless accusations against (really working) Wikimedians, but see now that nothing of the sort was intended. Perhaps I could better query Jeff on his user_talk first, not taking this straight to the noticeboard. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 20:24, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
@Incnis Mrsi: Yes, but please consider that mention ≠ ping ≠ posting on user talk.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 23:12, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
@Incnis Mrsi: "an established Wikimedian" maybe, but one who on en.wiki at least, has consistently put their own financial interests ahead of the project's aims. Smartse (talk) 16:48, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
@Smartse: I have too little information about what happened to Lingveno in en.Wikipedia, but deception or scam AFAIK were not incriminated. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 17:40, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

About request

Hello, any admin please see this request and grant me the rights. I don't want to request here but no one is seeking there so I have to post here.--√Jæ√ 15:56, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

With all due respect, but to be honest this sounds like hat collecting to me. --Steinsplitter (talk) 17:41, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Help me to delete the Template:User_VM/zh

The {{User VM}} which I created already has the Simple Chinese edition and Traditional Chinese edition, and I mistakenly created a Chinese edition before. Could you help me to delete the Chinese edition? --HFWMan (talk) 03:41, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done Yann (talk) 03:50, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Can someone help this user?

Might not be the best place to ask,, but I couldn't think of where better. At Commons:Help_desk#Can we take pictures of six historic photos displayed by the government agencie?, I have tried several times to help this user, but he doesn't seem to understand me. Having had similar impasses with him several other times, I'm obviously not the one to help him out. Can someone else work with him? - Jmabel ! talk 15:32, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of redirects

Hi, could an admin please close Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Icons for railway descriptions/obsolete redirect#More redirects (4)? I am waiting for a number of pages to be deleted so I can do file moves to those titles. Thanks, Jc86035 (talk) 08:48, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done For future reference, "uncontroversial maintenance", which includes the reshuffling of names, is a speedy deletion criterium and may be better suited for some of those files. Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 09:08, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Please delete this Category. I've moved the files to Category:Kahal Portugal Synagogue. Liadmalone (talk) 08:09, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Is @Liadmalone an expert on Romanization of Hebrew? Why can’t “קהל” be “Kal”? Leave {{Catredirect}} is place. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 08:42, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
No, I'm not an expert. But the plate says so in English. Liadmalone (talk) 08:49, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
The plate shows only that its manufacturer preferred Kahal/Кахал in Latin and Cyrillic. Transcription from Hebrew is messy – would anybody delete Matkal building just because it is another transcription than Matcal Tower? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 10:08, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Unless it was customary to write kal for קהל, writing kal instead of kahal is just wrong, since it skips a consonant and a vowel. Liadmalone (talk) 15:00, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi Could you delete the file. It is a cropped version and the full version have been deleted per copyvio. But the file is protected, I couldn't add a "copyvio" template. --Panam2014 (talk) 13:22, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

@Panam2014: This file should be deleted as a violation of COM:CRT#Peru, but it is "In the news" and thus on the mainpage at the Chinese Wikipedia, and it is therefore protected here until tomorrow. @Zhuyifei1999 (or any other Chinese speaker), can you please make a case for accelerated removal (or replacement with another photo from Category:Pedro Pablo Kuczynski) on Chinese Wikipedia?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:05, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Saw this too late --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 19:09, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: File:Fotografía Oficial del Presidente de la República del Perú Pedro Pablo Kuczynski.jpg. Same case but in en.wiki. Could you do the same ? --Panam2014 (talk) 14:08, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
✓ Done Yann (talk) 14:09, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
@Yann: Congrats, you broke two Wikipedias! Would you please redirect those to File:Pedro Pablo Kuczynski (31074270420) (cropped).jpg?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:18, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: Drop the overly dramatic shit - nothing was broken, a red link appeared and was quickly fixed, but more importantly, a copyright violation is a copyright violation, if you think we're going to leave copyvios around just so other projects can avoid a red link or two, you can close the door behind you on the way out. Nick (talk) 14:25, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
@Nick and Yann: I'm sorry, I overreacted. Redlinks on Wikipedia mainpages are a big deal, and I provided a category of potential replacement images.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:35, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: I immediately notified people on IRC, who replaced the file. Regards, Yann (talk) 16:14, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
@Yann: Those users didn't replace the files until 11-13 minutes after you deleted them, details follow. For English Wikipedia, you deleted File:Kuczynski Pedro Pablo (cropped).jpg at 14:09.[7] @Nick swapped File:Pedro_Pablo_Kuczynski_2016_(cropped).jpg into w:Template:In the news 11 minutes later at 14:20.[8]. Similarly, for Chinese Wikipedia, you deleted File:Fotografía Oficial del Presidente de la República del Perú Pedro Pablo Kuczynski.jpg at 14:10.[9] @Antigng swapped File:Pedro_Pablo_Kuczynski_2016_(cropped).jpg into zh:Template:Itn 13 minutes later at 14:23.[10]. I had File:Pedro Pablo Kuczynski (31074270420) (cropped).jpg ready for swapping at 14:10, and its page looking better at 14:12. You could have waited until the swaps were in place to do your deletions, or you could have used file redirects as I asked at 14:18. I have screenshots of how badly the main pages looked at 14:19. All times UTC. I sincerely hope that the "In the news" editors at the English and Chinese Wikipedias vet their images better, and that we on Commons can do better to avoid making their main pages look bad.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 18:26, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: Will you stop complaining about how the Main Page's looked and stop criticising Yann, a copyright violation is a copyright violation and is to be dealt with promptly. Yann did everything correctly and nothing wrong or incorrectly (unlike you, the chief apologist for copyvios today). If you're still unhappy about Yann deleting a copyright violation, Wikimedia Commons is not the project for you, use your right to vanish and fork, and try to do better yourself elsewhere. Nick (talk) 18:59, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Help moving 195 images at Category:Le Village

Hi. Could I please ask for admin assistance to move 195 images from the renamed Category:Le Village? Because of the ambiguous name, the category has off-topic images that need to be removed such as File:Donjon, Penne, 8 octobre 1898 (3928308739).jpg but I think I can handle that. thanks, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:37, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Moved, using Commons:Cat-a-lot. Note that you don't need admin privileges to use it. Materialscientist (talk) 02:19, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Broken files

Hi, I notice quite a lot of broken files these days, so I have opened phab:T190988. Please do not delete these files used for testing, and add any relevant information. Hopefully it will be fixed soon. Thanks, Yann (talk) 04:41, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Help to Delete the Translation Page Template:User VM/zh-has

This page was created accidentally for there is no language named "zh-has". Please help me to delete it. --HFWMan (talk) 02:17, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done --jdx Re: 04:30, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Delete my user page

Please delete my user page, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Mr.Polaz --Mr.Polaz (talk) 11:09, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

@Mr.Polaz: I tagged it for you.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:04, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
✓ Done. --Túrelio (talk) 13:05, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

updating mediawiki page

please move this page to the MediaWiki:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js/fa Yamaha5 (talk) 04:51, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

@Yamaha5: What would be done with the existing page?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 05:09, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: the talk page is updated version please move the talk page to the main page. MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js/fa --- move to-- > MediaWiki:Gadget-Cat-a-lot.js/fa like this edit Yamaha5 (talk) 06:26, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
✓ Done Please check if everything is fine. --jdx Re: 07:26, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

File:BildBenutzer.png should be deleted

It contains a copyvio icon from Windows XP; I tried replacing it with a non-copyvio version, but the Wikimedia image server isn't letting me. Lojbanist (talk) 19:38, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Nevermind; the image server appears to have been purged. Lojbanist (talk) 19:52, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Comilla to Cumilla

Not sure where else to post this. Bangladesh has changed the english spelling of some of its cities [11]. The city of Comilla has been changed to Cumilla. All the images in Category:Comilla containing the name will need changing.--Auric (talk) 20:18, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Auric, that is not a reason to change file names. Artix Kreiger (talk) 20:46, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
@Auric: The best place to post this is probably the Village Pump, although files should probably not be renamed. Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 10:02, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Okay, thanks.--Auric (talk) 12:32, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Artix Kreiger, No. This isn't correct. If the difference is significant, the file name should be corrected. For example in Nigeria, "Uyo" and "Oyo" are two different states. In Yoruba language, " ìgbà means "Time" and "ìgbá" means "garden egg". You may not give advise on what is a correct file name if you do not speak that language in particular. If the change in spellings (in the case of a single letter difference) do not affect the meaning of the words, then we may not need to change the file names. Regards. Wikicology (talk) 06:34, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Revision deletion

Please delete the edit summary of Special:Diff/292213123, as it includes personal attack. --B dash (talk) 05:26, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I am not sure personal attacks meet the criteria for Rev-del. Regards. Wikicology (talk) 08:10, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Although the personal attack towards vandal was not nice, in my opinion it can stay so. Taivo (talk) 10:00, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Delete first version of a file

Hello,

The OTRS permission received from the owner of the rights covers only a picture of max 400x400px. Could you delete the first version of this picture ?

Best regards,

--AntonierCH (d) 08:18, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done. However, the description template states author=Derisbourg, whereas the EXIF data state photographer=tissot.mayenfisch.com . That does not fit. --Túrelio (talk) 08:32, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Thank you ! I will finish updating the image desc. --AntonierCH (d) 09:11, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

File:Alligator Nest (2), NPSPhoto (9247530267).jpg: Help Requested

Recently, when I was surfing the files, I found File:Alligator Nest (2), NPSPhoto (9247530267).jpg, which was originally posted by User:Howcheng, but was suspected to be vandalized by User:Eq11220 by overwriting the original file with not related photos for multiple times. Would anyone can resume the original file and take further actions?廣九直通車 (talk) 13:39, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done Reverted the file, hid the intermediate versions, warned the user. Please let us know if this continues. Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 14:06, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Thank you!廣九直通車 (talk) 00:28, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Dear Admins,

Can an Admin please use a bot to tag all of Artix Kreiger 2s images in this large Category into a mass Deletion of a banned uploader since they apparently licensed as PD-Mark on flickr and not CCO as he claims? He probably has several hundred or a thousand such images here and was banned indefinitely for sockpuppetry. Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 05:48, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

MOTD thumbtime

Seems to be broken again (previous was here). See {{Motd/2018-04-09 thumbtime}}, affecting the caption on {{Motd/2018-04-09 (en)}} : tried to blank it but didn't work ; might need to be deleted for the time being. — Racconish 09:40, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

@Steinsplitter and Zhuyifei1999: — Racconish 10:07, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
@Yann: --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:26, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
@Yann: nevermind, fixed : [12]. — Racconish 07:29, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Template:Information needs fixing

Please see Template_talk:Information#Fixing_linter_errors_caused_by_other_fields_property. Tidy will be replaced end of June 2018. SSastry (WMF) (talk) 13:35, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Upload Campaign:vaz

The Esperanto Commnity will run a photo-contest between 1 and 31 August, the contest Vikio Amas ZEOjn (Wiki Loves Zamenhof/Esperanto Objects, Category:Vikio Amas ZEOjn 2018). The templates al already created Category:Vikio Amas ZEOjn templates. I'll really appreciate any help setting up the campaign for the photo-contest. Thanks! Sahaquiel - Hast du eine Frage? 04:44, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Upload Campaign:vaz

The Esperanto Commnity will run a photo-contest between 1 and 31 August, the contest Vikio Amas ZEOjn (Wiki Loves Zamenhof/Esperanto Objects, Category:Vikio Amas ZEOjn 2018). The templates al already created Category:Vikio Amas ZEOjn templates. I'll really appreciate any help setting up the campaign for the photo-contest. Thanks! Sahaquiel - Hast du eine Frage? 04:44, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Categories for deletion

I have a new group of categories that should be deleted. They were created by an IP and fall under overcat.

Fry1989 eh? 19:29, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted. Érico (talk) 21:30, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Template:Information needs fixing

Please see Template_talk:Information#Fixing_linter_errors_caused_by_other_fields_property. Tidy will be replaced end of June 2018. SSastry (WMF) (talk) 13:35, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

@Perhelion: That template is protected because it is widely used. Can you please help fix it?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:54, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Who is the original uploader of this file?

Two versions of the same file (apparently) have been uploaded to Commons: File:Think.jpg and File:Think.jpeg, from different Wikipedias. Can someone check if the right file has been kept and the right author attributed? Presumably it's whoever uploaded it the earliest. The name of the author on File:Think.jpg was changed by an IP edit. --ghouston (talk) 12:32, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Except for the username change due migration to SUL, is here is a problem at all? The earliest upload—April 2006—was in de.Wikipedia by Snoop~dewiki and the existing image is credited as a work by one Snoop from de.Wikipedia. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 14:37, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
✓ Done. I checked it. Right version was kept, per Incnis Mrsi right author is attributed. Taivo (talk) 14:43, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for checking. It seemed odd because the current version was transferred from nlwiki but is credited to an author at dewiki. --ghouston (talk) 23:58, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry to all the admins for the mistakes i have had made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swaraj Sagar Pradhan (talk • contribs) 07:17, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

@Swaraj Sagar Pradhan: No need to apologize, many people make the same mistake as you. But please note that images from the web are usually not allowed to upload to Commons. For details, see COM:L. Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 08:20, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Is this source reliable?

Hello folks. I don't know where to discuss this issue but is this(http://www.edmaps.com/) source reliable? It looks like self-published and questionable. I couldn't find any source for the maps presented in this website and this makes the source shady and questionable which harms the reliability of this project. I would like to hear other editors' opinions on this. Thanks. 88.226.47.49 10:42, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

"Excepting the scanned maps (public domain maps)" these maps shouldn't be uploaded here anyway because they're all copyrighted and non-free [13]. De728631 (talk) 16:27, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Yes, but there are other problems in addition to the copyvio. The maps seem random collections from the Internet fora. I could not find/see any source for the maps on the website. This is a serious problem because editors upload maps based on this questionable source and since the images are one of the most attention-grabbing parts of the Wikipedia articles, it causes serious problems regarding reliability. Are there any platform to discuss this issue on Commons? As far as I remember, there are platforms such as RSN and noticeboard for spam-black list on the WP,but I did not see such platforms on Commons. It would be an appropriate way to gain a consensus regarding such cases. 88.226.47.49 17:53, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Commons:Village pump should be the right venue. De728631 (talk) 23:42, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Hyphen x Dash in POTD

In the description of today's POTD the hyphen should be changed of a dash, which only admins can do. It is not a big thing, but the main page should present everything correctly. May I ask for the correction? --Jan Kameníček (talk) 06:22, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done Pleclown (talk) 06:57, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

A threat, carried over from the EN project

This lovely message and this message were sent sometime after the editor's range block in the English project. A block here, or a lock on my talk page, might be appropriate. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:51, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Block or lock away. I don't worship Wikipedia like you fake wanna be Christian. See ya lol — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2600:1702:1690:E10:80B1:C5D7:1EE0:D567 (talk) 04:55, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done. The IP is blocked. I semi-protected the user talkpage for a month. Taivo (talk) 08:42, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the lock. Interestingly, the anon's block was for their behaviour in other locations, not for the attacks, yet the editor appears to be blaming me, calling it a "cry baby con" and changed IPs and tagged the talk page again. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:45, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

How can I be in copyright violation when I'm creating the files using Paint and Inkscape? I'm using 2 different files, piecing them together, and then uploading. Explain...

  • File:Roman Catholic Diocese of Victoria in Texas.svg
  • File:Roman Catholic Diocese of Brownsville.svg
  • File:Roman Catholic Diocese of Kalamazoo.svg
  • File:Roman Catholic Diocese of Saginaw.svg
  • File:Roman Catholic of Chalan Kanoa.svg

Roberto221 (talk) 23:10, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

You can be in copyright violation whenever you copy a copyrighted thing without a license, the mechanism doesn't matter. Copying a book with a pen and paper may be a copyright violation. --ghouston (talk) 00:27, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

A significant change to the rollback function has been proposed above. --Rschen7754 05:15, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Lisa Joy continual copyvio

Over the past several months, the same image of Lisa Joy has been uploaded repeatedly, and has been deleted several times because it is a copyrighted photo taken by HBO. Here is a link to once instance of those deletions: [14] The other link was replaced with a different photo, which I'm assuming is a copyright violation as well: [15] The first photo I linked existed at the 2nd link previously. The file is now back again here: [16] Is there any way to prevent this image from being uploaded, as it is a clear copyright violation and has been deleted multiple times before. It's been uploaded by multiple users, likely with a close connection to the subject in the photo. Gage (talk) 06:44, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

There is obviously no valid reason to delete this picture (user that started the DR is confusing Commons with Wikipedia), although I will request a rename after the DR has been closed. I suggest to speedy keep it because any discussion in that DR has the potential to get ugly without helping in any way to determine if it the image should be kept, because that's already clear. - Alexis Jazz 19:27, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done Yann (talk) 04:37, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

WLE Germany notice

Hello,

please send User:Blech/WLE2018Rundschreiben to the user pages listed on User:Blech/WLENamen16und17. The message has been discussed on https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Diskussion:Wiki_Loves_Earth_2018/Deutschland#Benachrichtigung_der_Teilnehmer_aus_den_Jahren_2016_und_2017 .

Thanks in advance, --Blech (talk) 15:24, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done --Didym (talk) 00:28, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Can an Admin with OTRS access please check the OTRS ticket here to see if it applies to this image above? The uploader typed in the ticket himself. If it does not apply to the ticket, please file a Deletion Request. Thank You, --Leoboudv (talk) 18:20, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done You don't need to access the ticket. The permission applies to all images by Bollywood Hungama, i.e. taken in India by their photographers. Regards, Yann (talk) 04:41, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

IP block exempt question

I primarily edit on English Wikipedia where I have the ip-block-exempt flag because it is necessary for me to edit via a VPN. Since the flag is local to en.wp I can not nominate copyvio images (pretty much the only reason I edit here) without going to either a mobile or DMZ machine. I also run into this issue in the rare instances I edit over on meta. What are the requirements for obtaining ip-block-exempt here and where do I ask? Thank you. Jbhunley (talk) 20:06, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done. Guanaco (talk) 20:23, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Copyvio by a user in uploads of photographs which source are the Swiss Federal Archives

Hello. One user uploaded a lot of portraits which are originated in the Swiss Federal Archives. Actually the photographer died 2012 and because of that the photographs are not in the public domain. Also the uploads by this user are not authorized by the Swiss Federal Archives. I have put a lot of speedy deletion requests but maybe it is easier if a admin just deletes all photographs from Peter Friedli (1925-2012) and with the Swiss Federal Archives template in it. Thank you. -> [17] --Micha (talk) 11:41, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Gefyrotes. Regards, Yann (talk) 12:56, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
Micha/Micha L., schreib das zur Sicherheit noch einmal in den von Yann eröffneten Löschantrag. Es wäre vieleicht auch gar nicht so schlecht, Deine Verbndung zum Archiv kurz zu erwähnen, und dass du deshalb sicher um die fehlende Autorisierung weißt (upps, ein ß ;-)). — Speravir – 00:03, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
@RANSON FENJIRO SABINE: J'ai corrigé File:Abdeljalil fenjiro.jpg pour vous. I fixed File:Abdeljalil fenjiro.jpg for you.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 23:24, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: I tweaked the translation a bit. Feel free to revert if you think appropriate. --Auntof6 (talk) 13:20, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Protect my talk page

Please, protect my talk page for 6 months to prevent excessive vandalism by LTA like a Krassotkin~ruwiking (impersonation of Liza Veniza) and Liza Veniza. Marshmallych 13:04, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done semiprotected for 2 weeks. Last protection was for 1 week and the vandalism continued, so it makes sense to have protection extend further... however removing the ability for all non-autoconfirmed users to leave you messages is a last resort, so the time frame should be kept to a minimum possible. Storkk (talk) 13:11, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Wikimedia/database problem

When trying to access some empty categories and when trying to delete some files a moment ago, a strange new problem-page appeared, which stated:
Cannot access the database: No working replica DB server: Unknown error (10.64.32.198:3318)
--Túrelio (talk) 20:12, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Problem seems to have been solved now. --Túrelio (talk) 20:13, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Túrelio, see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T195520 GMGtalk 20:21, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. --Túrelio (talk) 20:33, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

The discussion seems not attracting much comments so will be archived soon. I don't know whether it needs any further discussion; but just adding a notification here to attract more eyes if interested. Jee 03:20, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Can some admin please put a protection on this page. It is being vandalized very fequently. Thanks, --Cart (talk) 12:40, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done Semi-protected for 10 days. Vandalism should stop once the event (and promotion) is over at the end of May. Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 13:05, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! --Cart (talk) 13:10, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Adding license for photos of Getty Images

Hello, I am not sure is this the right place to ask this question but it is better to directly ask Admins because I have already contacted dozens of editors and all of them left me full of questions. I went through a lot of photo uploads that were eventually deleted because I didn't provide the valid license. Later I realized the problem and I learned how to add right license type. But now there is still one problem. Yesterday I uploaded photo File:Dalida Gigi.jpg that I bought from Getty Images. You can enter the link that I provided for photo. There you can clearly read that the buyer of photo has the right of publishing it on internet pages. I bought the photo without watermark and uploaded it on wiki, and then user deleted it because "it is a possible copyright violation." Please tell me then which license template should I use when I am uploading bought photos of Getty Images. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DalidaEditor (talk • contribs) 18:28, 23 May 2018 (UTC) ○ DalidaIdeal ○ talk ○ 18:28, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

(not an admin) @DalidaEditor: Buying photos from Getty makes no difference. You didn't buy the photo, you bought a license. That license does not give you the right to re-license the photo. Maybe you didn't even buy a license. I legally can't say Getty is a bunch of crooks, so they most definitely are not, possibly, ever, a bunch of crooks. Getty is legally watertight and certainly nothing crooklike.
Simply put, if you bought the photo to upload it to Commons you just wasted your money. Go to https://donate.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:FundraiserRedirector next time if you want to help Wikipedia/Wikimedia.
If the image was in the public domain anyway (e.g. very old painting), read COM:ALAMY and Commons:Deleting images based on stock photo sites. You probably didn't have to buy the image. If no other good quality source exists, we actually would be happy if you bought valuable public domain images from Getty for Commons - but you should discuss such a purchase on the copyright village pump first to make sure you won't waste your money. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 19:43, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
By the way, you should thank Túrelio for deleting it quickly. Getty would have sued the shit out of you. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 20:15, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
+1 - Alexis is absolutely correct - Buying images off of Getty (or anywhere else) doesn't grant you a right to relicense the image under COM:Creative Commons - The photographer would never agree to that as then they would be losing money! (Instead of them getting orders they would instead get people just reusing the image from here which is a very very poor business model). –Davey2010Talk 20:27, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I have to tell you this. Getty Images does not sell copyrights of files but merely licenses to use images. However, that license is non-transferable, therefore you can not sub-license a file from Getty Images to someone else (such as Wikimedia Commons).
Therefore can this image not be hosted on Wikipedia, since all media on Wikimedia Commons need to be allowed for all commercial use, by anyone, and allow derivatives. So, it needs to be licensed under a free license as specified here: COM:L.
I'm so terribly sorry for telling you this, given that you've spent over $300 on this image. Hopefully, you can request a refund from Getty, or find another use of the image, because it is not acceptable on Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons. --Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 20:50, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Someone might want to look at the Dalida images uploaded by User:Lethiernois. They seem to be related. World's Lamest Critic (talk) 23:11, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

I am very thankful for all four of you, but in same time frustrated. I will look at those pages you have mentioned. But "is there any way to upload photos that I have in my private collection. I have around 500 photos that my parents left me as postcards of Dalida. They were taken from 50s to 80s when thwy were literally free given from her hands to fans. I tought I can upload it to wiki only if I buy the licence of same pic from Getty, but I was wrong. So can any of those postcards be uploaded as they were public domain in France already long time ago? Literally the Cher main photo is scan of her fan postcard" ? ○ DalidaIdeal ○ talk ○ 23:30, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
@DalidaEditor: File:Cher - Casablanca.jpg is a US photo, that's why. No such thing from France and the "simple photographs" from Italy are questionable. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 23:50, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
Is there any page where there is a list of licences and explanations for each country? I don't know the rules for each country so the list would be a normal thing. I have a lot if photos taken in Switzerland, Spain, Belgium, Germany... maybe some of those countries have simmilar rule like US? ○ DalidaIdeal ○ talk ○ 08:12, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
At en:List of countries' copyright lengths you have list of the duration of copyright for many countries. That might be a starting point to know whether an image is still in copyright or is not. Remember, while in some countries the clock ticks from the point of publication, and many other countries the year of death of the photographer/artist determines the expiration of copyright. --Túrelio (talk) 08:24, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
As you may already know, Italy treats some photographs one way and some another. Although I haven't seen anything that suggests there was ever any consultation with anyone professionally acquainted with Italian copyright law, Commons treats pretty much any "Italian" photograph as though it enters public domain 20 years from the date of creation, rather than using the longer term listed in that WP article. World's Lamest Critic (talk) 14:09, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
@World's Lamest Critic: User talk:DalidaEditor#Photographs of Dalida (also: ping @Blackcat: ) - Alexis Jazz ping plz 14:27, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Italy's non artistic photographs that don't fall under URAA (copyrighted at 1 January 1996, basically) are in PD both in Italy and in the USA. Of course the requirements are explicitly stated: the photo must have been taken in Italy and first published in Italy (respectively before ded 31 1976 and dec 31 1978), the subject must be "an aspect of life" (for example Italy and Germany differ on this because Italy doesn't necessarily reckopn "artisticity" to the simple act of pointing and shooting: it also must involve choice of not natural or fixed light -- ie a street lamp --, model outfit, a particular pose. If you take a photograph of a person on the street it's not enough that they is watching on camera to state it's "artistic"). Also, there must not be any explicit copyright sign on the photograph (ie the photographs' autograph or studio, and so on). -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 14:40, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
PS To make an example: let's imagine that I take the photograph of a woman walking in the spotlight of a streetpost. She is not there for me, and she didn't expect to meet me there. She is wearing a dress of her choice and she's simply stopping and letting me take the photograph. In this case I have very little or no creativity because light and outfit don't depend on me. If I make her wear something choosen by me and add a particular light, and so on, there is an element of creativity introduced by me. Fashion photographs are artistic photographs. This one, for example, is not. This is borderline, because I suspect there might be a small element of artisticity.
The example you say is "borderline" is a studio shot involving multiple lights not a straightforward snapshot. Aside from the lighting, the hair, makeup, clothing, pose, and facial expression have all been controlled to get the desired shot. (I don't want to get away from the larger issue here, but photographers usually don't choose what models wear in fashion photography.) Each of those decisions was a creative one made by someone with expertise in that field. World's Lamest Critic (talk) 16:24, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
@World's Lamest Critic: : to make it simply, non artisticity means something where the photographer had little or no say, or something that would happen no matter if a photographer was there to photograph. Ie a sports match or similar. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 14:08, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
See also Copyright rules by territory.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 20:59, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

File:IPA_chart_2005_png.pdf

Can an admin take a look at the file rename request on File:IPA chart 2005 png.pdf? I am not entirely sure if it's warranted and even if it is there is a redirect to overwrite. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:49, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

✓ Renamed, since the name clearly contains an extraneous suffix, and the source files have been renamed, too. Sebari – aka Srittau (talk) 11:47, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

French wiki, how to?

Okay so I have another question about commons. This is my question;

-Small card released in France in the 1970s has on front side the photo of Dalida. Behind is an icon of Orlando productions without any indication that copyrights are reserved to author of photo. Also on back side is list of recent record releases of Dalida (promotion) and at the below is the name of official Dalida fan-club, its address and telephone number. The US law says if the photo was released in United States before 1977 without any copyright indication on it, then the photo is today public domain in US (PD-US). It the same thing for other countries, in this case I am asking for France? I can't find neither no neither yes... Is it logical that in any country where photographer decides to release its image without indication that he holds copyright to that photo, the photo is public domain?

So if anyone knows the answer, please ping. But my actual question is; Is there any noticeboard of Admins for French wiki. Can anyone recommend me some French admins. I want to hear the answers from native speakers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DalidaEditor (talk • contribs) 18:50, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

@Christian Ferrer: Well helpful somehow. Thanks. Dalida Editor please ping or message me 11:34, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

There's something going on with editors uploading images of . User:Lethiernois was previously blocked for uploading copyright violations. I have nominated a few of their most obvious copyright violating uploads, but I suspect most of what they have uploaded should be deleted. User:DalidaEditor also seems to be uploading Dalida images that are dubious. Now there seems to be a new user interested in Dalida - User:Fan années 70. I don't know if these accounts all belong to the same person, but something weird is definitely going on here. World's Lamest Critic (talk) 22:44, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

See also Commons:Administrators' noticeboard#Adding license for photos of Getty Images, Commons:Administrators' noticeboard#French wiki, how to?, and Commons:Village pump/Copyright#Old public domain of Dalida. World's Lamest Critic (talk) 22:48, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
@World's Lamest Critic: I am not uploading image. I am editing Dalida layout and Sheila. Do I need to upload Image? Fan années 70 (talk) 23:43, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
I saw Dalida editor and Lethiernois have problems with photographe and 20 deletions on Dalida editor. I have many photo of concert Dalida and Elvis and I came here to upload specificaly Dalida because many of her photos are not domaine public. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fan années 70 (talk • contribs) 23:47, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
@Fan années 70: do you mean photos you took in person, at the concert, yourself? - Alexis Jazz ping plz 00:20, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Can I balance colour of photo Dalida? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fan années 70 (talk • contribs) 23:48, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

@Fan années 70: Maybe, I don't know what you want to do, but you don't have to correct your own photos. We'll prefer original photos. Experienced people in Commons:Graphic Lab/Photography workshop can make corrections if needed. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 00:20, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
@World's Lamest Critic: Literally I've gote none connections with any of those profiles. I noticed Lethiernois and his photo updates of Dalida, that are valid because they are from Italy, and I planned to upload the better pixelage. But this "Fan of 70s" is completely new for me. He/she has just made one edit on Dalida main page.. But if that person is going to upload some personal photos of Dalida, it will be like gift from the sky. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DalidaEditor (talk • contribs) 11:23, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
Bonjour. Les photos que j'ai ajouté de Dalida proviennent toutes de GETTY IMAGE. Vous pouvez voir les droits d'auteurs, elles sont normalement toutes libres. Allez vérifier si vous le pouvez. Cordialement--Lethiernois (talk) 13:51, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
Hello. The photos I added from Dalida are all from GETTY IMAGE. You can see the copyright, they are normally all free. Go check if you can. cordially
 
translator: Google via   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:39, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
@Lethiernois: Rien de Getty Images n'est jamais considéré par eux comme étant gratuit. De quelles URL avez-vous pris ces photos, et comment les avez-vous manipulées? Nothing from Getty Images is ever considered by them to be free. What URLs did you get those photos from, and how did you manipulate them?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:39, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
Merci de votre réponse. Les URL sont présentes sur chaque photographies. De plus, celles que j'ai ajoutées semblent être en accord avec les droits d'auteurs. --Lethiernois (talk) 15:10, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
@Alexis Jazz: Not of me, but my deceased father. Is that ok for wikipedia? He didn't said that leave the photos just to me, those are in family now. But family would be formidable if I publish. I can put domaine public free use? Fan années 70 (talk) 20:54, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
@Fan années 70: please contact OTRS and send them the photos. You may also need to obtain permission from other family members. If all heirs are willing to publish the photos with a free license they can be used on Wikipedia. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 21:11, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

What is the process of proposing that Visual Editor be available to all editors in the Commons: namespace?

Hi

I asked this question on Help Desk and they suggested I come here. Can someone outline what the process would be to propose Visual Editor is enabled in the Commons: namespace?

For context, I'm currently working on creating a way for people to easily submit photo essays for Wiki Loves Competitions, the current prototype is here. The process is reliant on VE be enabled as an option for all users.

Thanks

John Cummings (talk) 08:39, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Tommy Robinson

Please can we lose https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tommy_Robinson_gag_order.jpg , see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tommy_Robinson_(activist) .--Ianmacm (talk) 09:52, 28 May 2018 (UTC) ✓ Done

Leaving aside the politics, which I'm compelled to do, one has to look at the copyright status of this document. The opinion of the Bar Council is that it is either the copyright of the judge making the order, or Crown Copyright as a document written by a servant of the Crown in the course of their duties. As to the latter, it does not fall within the exemptions from Crown Copyright listed in the white paper (as if that has any authority) of 2000. But it is certainly not public domain, as claimed by the uploader and would in the normal course of events be deleted within seven days as having no valid licence. I can find no evidence that these documents are released under an Open Government Licence. Therefore the document can be deleted on two grounds (1) breach of copyright and (2) under the precautionary principle as having an uncertain copyright status. Fair use arguments can be made on Wikipedie, but not of course here. Rodhullandemu (talk) 10:14, 28 May 2018 (UTC)