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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on August 31, 2024.

Koi Mil Gaya 2

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. plicit 23:56, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[]

There's no such movie titled Krrish 2 or Koi Mil Gaya 2, Krrish's prequel's title is Koi... Mil Gaya and sequel's title is Krrish 3 but Krrish 2 or Koi Mil Gaya 2 doesn't exist. M S Hassan 🤓☝🏻 11:26, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on the page histories of the last two redirects?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 23:44, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[]

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Vegas shooting

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 8#Vegas shooting

Canada.

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 01:38, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[]

Appending a full stop is an WP:UNNATURAL error. 1234qwer1234qwer4 22:32, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[]

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Deputy Chief of Staff

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The result of the discussion was setindexfy. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 02:13, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[]

This redirect was automatically created following a page move due to this title being rather ambiguous with other pages that share this title, like White House Deputy Chief of Staff. I'm thinking either delete this redirect or turn it into a disambiguation page. Limmidy (talk) 22:15, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[]

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Hannon, Ontario

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 23:50, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[]

Outlying suburb/community that is not mentioned at target. Either retarget to the list entry at List of neighbourhoods in Hamilton, Ontario#Mountain (Escarpment) or just delete. Cremastra (talk) 21:38, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[]

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Hastings East (Vancouver)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 7#Hastings East (Vancouver)

Academy, Alberta

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 23:50, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[]

Possibly a settlement, but redirecting to Calgary is not helpful since there is no mention there and there doesn't need to be; I suggest deletion. Cremastra (talk) 21:28, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[]

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Almadina (school)

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 7#Almadina (school)

Woodridge, Ottawa River, Canada

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 23:51, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[]

Same as below. Either retarget to List of neighbourhoods in Ottawa#Fitzroy or just delete. Cremastra (talk) 21:22, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[]

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Cedardale, Ottawa

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 23:51, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[]

No mention at target (unsurprisingly). Either retarget to list entry at List of neighbourhoods in Ottawa#Gloucester or just delete. Cremastra (talk) 21:19, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[]

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🆥

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 10#🆥

Elite slaves

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 04:11, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[]

This sounds like a vague phrase (and google seems to back me up). I don't think a slave needs to themself own another slave in order to be considered an "elite slave". Duckmather (talk) 20:57, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[]

Yes that's true, and I'm relaxed about this. On the other hand, it's a question of helping readers to navigate; and there is no other current article that it could sensibly point at. If one is written one day, it's not set in stone and can be altered. Ttocserp 21:24, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[]
Agree with Duckmather that linking "elite slave" to "slave-owning slaves" is misleading enough not to be useful as a redirect. A primary example is temple slaves, who occur in several cultures and were certainly "elite" in some sense. Were concubines elite slaves? Sometimes, but is their favored status defined by owning other slaves? In ancient Rome, elite slaves encompassed public slaves working in the state bureaucracy who had privileges not accorded to others; slaves of the emperor, who were eligible for early manumission; and educated or high-skill slaves who worked in large upper-class households, who also were more likely to be manumitted. Technically, a Roman slave could not own anything, though they might manage other slaves and in effect "own" them. Defining the privileged status of some slaves does not rest solely or even primarily on whether they held any form of control over other slaves, let alone the legalistic issue of ownership. Defining "elite slave" as a category seems impractical; a link would be useful only to an article that discussed what positions of privilege might be available within a culturally specific system of slavery. Cynwolfe (talk) 17:17, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 21:13, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[]

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Canadialand

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Canadaland. plicit 23:54, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[]

Appears to be a podcast [1] but very unlikely to be referring to the actual country. The creator's edit summary suggests this is a semi-joke. Cremastra (talk) 21:10, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[]

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Krish 1

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The result of the discussion was keep. plicit 23:54, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[]

There's no such movie titled Krrish 1 or Krish 1. M S Hassan 🤓☝🏻 11:16, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[]

  • Keep [Rationale for all of the above Krrish related redirect discussions.] Shorthand search aids abound here on enwiki especially if they help readers and are common alternate titles. Similarly Captain America 1, Iron Man 1, Mafia 1 etc. all exist. No policy based rationale is there for a deletion of these. If Krrish 3 exists, a reader would expectantly search for a 1 and a 2 (and so on, as I did), Krrish 3 already notes: "The film was referred to as both Krrish 2 and Krrish 3 in media reports." A retargeting of these articles may be discussed but a wholesay deletion is not the solution (my targets were primarily based on the release order at Krrish (film series)).
Coming to Koi... Mil Gaya, the first film of the series, the working titles of its sequels were expectantly a play on its title as noted here, here and here. So these shouldn't really be in dispute.
Also I wasn't notified of the deletion discussion here despite creating these redirects. Gotitbro (talk) 11:23, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[]
And Krish is a common mis/alt spelling of Krrish, both of which can also exist redirects. Gotitbro (talk) 11:26, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[]
You searched for Krrish 1 and 2 because you didn't know that such movies doesn't exist, Krrish franchise is a popular movie franchise in India so I don't think anyone else would search for Krrish 1 or 2 knowing that such movies doesn't exist, also per WP:OTHERSTUFF just because Captain America 1 exists as a redirect doesn't mean Krrish 1 should also exist. M S Hassan 🤓☝🏻 11:53, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[]
Huh? That was a response to the 'no such movies exist' claim, not sure how "other stuff" applies here when these were only examples for WP:ALTTITLEs. Redirects need not only cater to the official names of films, plenty of sources use the alternative names (some of which have already been listed above). We would be better off discussing a retarget here than going around in circles about alt titles. Gotitbro (talk) 12:23, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[]
What source uses Krrish 1, Koi Mil Gaya 2 and Koi Mil Gaya 3? M S Hassan 📬✍🏻 12:33, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[]
The sources you provided only uses Krrish 2 M S Hassan 📬✍🏻 12:36, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[]
That is incorrect, you would know if you read the articles.
Bollywood Life which discusses the title discrepancy/controversy in detail lists all of these (including Koi Mil Gaya 2 and Koi Mil Gaya 3).
This article by an Indian SF editor outright lists the first sequel (Krrish) as Koi... Mil Gaya 2.
Krrish 1 is pretty self-explanatory, but here you go, Outlook (discusses the title controversies, including the Krrish vs. Krish spellings), Indian Express (about the reasons for titling the films as such), Great Bong (film review website). Gotitbro (talk) 15:35, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[]
Bollywoodlife is not a reliable source also they are not claiming that Krrish's another name is Koi Mil Gaya 2 and Krrish 3's another name is Koi Mil Gaya 3 instead they are asking If we accept the trilogy theory, shouldn’t it be Koi… Mil Gaya 3? But then, where was Koi…Mil Gaya 2? M S Hassan 📬✍🏻 16:30, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[]
The whole host of other sources that have been listed above discuss the same, need not pontificate on Bollywood Life alone (which was only meant as an exemplar of usage and RS should not really arise). All of which clearly establish a usage pattern, you need to first read what the purpose of WP:REDIRECT is rather than engage in selective analysis of the listed sources here.
And from what I can gather from these sources and the content at Krrish 3, Krrish 1 can be retargetted to Krrish and Krrish 2 to Krrish 3.
That Koi... Mil Gaya 2 was a clearly a working title has already been established and so has the usage of Koi... Mil Gaya 3.
This is my final say on this, the sources and usage have been laid down and I will wait for uninvolved editors to comment. Gotitbro (talk) 17:07, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[]
I have already read WP:REDIRECT. The redirects you created are not official alt titles, and I don't think anyone will search for them, which is why they should be deleted. M S Hassan 📬✍🏻 03:27, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[]
My bad, I forgot to notify you about redirect discussion. M S Hassan 🤓☝🏻 11:54, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 20:32, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[]

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Rubber latex

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Natural rubber. plicit 23:58, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[]

The word latex is colloquially used to refer to a small subset of latices: natural rubber latex, which is used in gloves, condoms, etc. While both the current target and Natural rubber cover this topic, there's a fair bit more detail in the latter, including a Uses section that gets into the thing most people picture when they hear "latex". So I suggest a retarget to Natural rubber. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe) 20:27, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[]

  • Retarget to Natural rubber. I wasn't previously aware that latex referred to anything other than rubber before, and the latex article is primarily about non-rubber latexes with a smaller portion devoted to what is commonly known as latex in most of the English speaking world outside academia and material sciences. It's a broad concept article where people are looking for the thing they call latex. A hatnote will be needed. Fieari (talk) 07:13, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[]
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Predictions of the end of Facebook

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 20#Predictions of the end of Facebook

Verenigd Koninkrijk

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 19#Verenigd Koninkrijk

Volcanoe facts

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 23:55, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[]

Delete per WP:NOTFAQ with precedent at eg Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 August 2#Facts on horses, and also due to the Quaylean spelling. -- Tavix (talk) 15:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[]

Delete per nom. Cremastra (talk) 16:14, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[]
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Sufferin' succotash

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 19#Sufferin' succotash

University Institutes of Technology

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 7#University Institutes of Technology

The Switch

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Switch (disambiguation). (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 21:12, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[]

Oh noes. An editor changed the target redirect to the video game console Nintendo Switch from the longstanding common household item switch (as in light switch, etc.). Maybe a redirect to the dab page would be necessary as both entries have no primary topic. ScarletViolet tc 10:49, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[]

Actually, since the release of the Nintendo Switch, its been pointing to the dab page. It's also very unusual for those typing "The Switch" when they are looking for the page switch because its unlikely would include the definite article and also because most people do it in all lowercase. I also note that the video game console gets way more views than films titled "The Switch" but idk if people actually type "The Switch" looking for the console. Just like someone typing "The Tube" is likely looking for the London Underground metro system (it currently redirects there) than the normal article about various types of tubes at tube (disambiguation) JuniperChill (talk) 18:36, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[]
The Retarget to Switch (disambiguation) tbh. that one also has switches that are the cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:59, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[]
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FuBl 2

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 19#FuBl 2

Crab angle

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 7#Crab angle

True democracy

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 14#True democracy

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The result of the discussion was keep. plicit 04:07, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[]

While the Unicode character is called "THERMODYNAMIC", I don't see how the current target would be helpful to any reader. 1234qwer1234qwer4 23:12, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[]

Keep - while it might not be the most useful, deleting it would be less useful. If the unicode character represents thermodynamics then we should redirect there BugGhost🦗👻 00:46, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[]
Deleting it would at least make it clear that we have no content on this symbol. As a reader, I would have trouble understanding why some very abstract character would redirect me to a physics article with no explanation of the symbol. 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:31, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[]
Keep – see this discussion for evidence of use. Cremastra (talk) 23:45, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[]
If anything, that is an argument to retarget to Wiktionary. 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:06, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 07:23, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[]

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 19#Ḙ

CBIs

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 04:12, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[]

Not mentioned in target. This appears to be an acronym for Ctiizenship by investment, but results for a search (which also includes CBIS) includes many things, none of them related to economic citizenship, and I don't really see the plural used. Rusalkii (talk) 03:58, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[]

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List of ambassadors of Turkey to Burundi

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The result of the discussion was keep. A merge can be carried out by any editor. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 21:09, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[]

The target article Burundi–Turkey relations contains no list of ambassadors. LibStar (talk) 03:46, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[]

Also I think "List of" is an unlikely search term. LibStar (talk) 05:47, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[]
Why? We have hundreds of thousands of titles beginning "List of". It strikes me as an extremely plausible search term for someone wanting a list of X to search for "List of X". Thryduulf (talk) 10:21, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[]
@LibStar, @Thryduulf: Based on the prefix finder, it looks like we have 1,883 articles that start with "List of ambassadors". That's what makes this also strike me as a very plausible prefix to any "ambassadors of" search. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:18, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[]
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