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Errors in the summary of the featured article

Please do not remove this invisible timestamp. See WT:ERRORS and WP:SUBSCRIBE. - Dank (push to talk) 01:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Errors in "Did you know ..."

Current DYK

Just leaving a note here that given the right column is much shorter today than the left one (even after ITN going to five items), I've copy-edited the lead hook. The description of the date range seemed overly wordy; I axed a number of words. Schwede66 04:37, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

It's all display size dependent. There's lots of space on my laptop montior, but only a little remaining on my external monitor. —Bagumba (talk) 05:12, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. On a smaller display, it makes a big difference whether or not you hide the tools. On my laptop, with the tools, it's balanced. Hiding the tools makes the screen real estate bigger and I get the same amount a white space as on a big monitor.

When I balance the main page for white space, I go by my large monitor. And lets not even talk about viewing the main page via mobile phone in desktop view; there are some truly strange font settings programmed somewhere. Schwede66 05:57, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

For the last 30 days, most readers used the mobile view of the main page – about 80 million to 60 million for the desktop view. Removing agreed text for the sake of cosmetic tinkering with the desktop view is therefore improper per WP:PREFER which states "Fully protected pages may not be edited except to make changes that are uncontroversial or for which there is clear consensus." Andrew🐉(talk) 14:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

DYK is not displayed in the mobile app. Cielquiparle (talk) 14:55, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Next DYK

• ... that Henry Kailimai and his Hawaiian Quintet were hired by Henry Ford to serve as official musicians for the Ford Motor Company?

@Kimikel, Johnson524, Nineteen Ninety-Four guy, and RoySmith: small nitpick, but they don't seem to have been "official musicians for the Ford Motor Company" exactly. The city council journal (reliable source?) describes them only as "[Henry] Ford's resident musicians", while Ukelele doesn't mention anything of the kind. Both sources do say that they played at lots of FMC events, though. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:17, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

I remember looking at the sources to verify the hook, but don't remember exactly what I found. It might have been Ukulele Magazine where it says "They regularly played ... at Ford company events" and later talks about the "Ford Motor Company Music Department", which sounds official to me. RoySmith (talk) 13:02, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

I had about the same thinking as RoySmith on this one, if there's an issue I apologize. Cheers! Johnson524 14:15, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Errors in "On this day"

Today's OTD

• Today were remember the anniversary of the premiere of Mozart's last opera. We say:
  • Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's opera The Magic Flute, composed shortly before his death, premiered at Theater auf der Wieden in Vienna.

  I believe that we can do better:

  1. This person is well known by his last name, and we don't have to mention one of his many given names, and then one he never used, - he used Wolfgangus Amadeus (when very formal or ironic) or Wolfgang Amadé. We could pipe or not link at all.
  2. The opera on the poster was called Die Zauberflöte, it was one of few operas he wrote in German while the majority was in Italien, - that was pioneering, and we could inform about that by not suggesting that it was given in English.
  3. When he wrote it he was still healthy, while "shortly before his death" sounds to me as if he was already thinking of death as when writing his Requiem. - Instead he conducted and played keyboard in the performance.
  4. I don't think the name of the theatre matters much, - few people will get from the name alone that this was not a prominent imperial or noble theatre in Vienna, but a suburban modest place of public entertainment.
  5. Vienna doesn't have to be mentioned. It is the default place for his mature years, and it is mentioned in the article about the theatre. If it is mentioned it doesn't need link, per WP:OVERLINK.

  My shortest take:

  • Mozart conducted the premiere of his last opera, Die Zauberflöte, in Vienna.

  Variant to play withs:

  • Mozart conducted the premiere of his last opera, Die Zauberflöte (The Magic Flute) at the Theater auf der Wieden in a suburb of Vienna.

  The opera was a great success that he enjoyed very much, but I don't know how to include it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:57, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

  Changed to "Mozart conducted the premiere of his last opera, The Magic Flute, in Vienna." He's pretty much always known mononymously, so the shortening makes sense, but I don't see why the name should be given in the original German when the article title (i.e. the thing we've decided most people most easily recognize) is in English. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 06:21, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

  No objection to someone re-adding "shortly before his death" if they'd like, as it's still true. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 06:23, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

  @Theleekycauldron: While he is the primary topic for Mozart, I'd just assume we defer to the community-supported page title, which is presumably his common name—this is a general "encyclopedia". —Bagumba (talk) 06:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

  I'm not sure I'd agree, Bagumba. An article can be placed at a title that is not its common name; a quick google ngrams search reveals the obvious, that the vast majority of works never even mention Mozart's full name. A full 92% of Google Scholar articles that talk about Mozart never use his full name (1 2). I think the reason that Mozart's article isn't at Mozart is because it'd feel awkward and unnatural compared to other shortenings, like Bill Clinton, that feel both familiar and proper. But on the Main Page, in running prose, I think it's fair to point out that "Mozart" is the most commonly used and most recognizable title, even at first use, and the blurb should reflect that. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 06:41, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

  @Theleekycauldron: I think we're only differing on "common name" vs. WP:COMMONAME. Cheers. —Bagumba (talk) 06:52, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

  I agree that it should be "Mozart" on the main page, and not "Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart". Schwede66 08:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

  Me too re "Mozart." But Gerda, we have to admit that in English the work is most often known as The Magic Flute, just as Mann's Der Zauberberg is known as The Magic Mountain. – Sca (talk) 12:36, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

  While I admit that it would be known best as The Magic Flute, I beg you to consider that in history it's correct to say that he composed Die Zauberflöte, and that name was on the posters, and in the libretto, and was the only name the composer knew. We have a chance to teach about that. See also 1 2, 3. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

  Leider, we can't expect a sizeable proportion of general readers of EngWiki to be opera aficionados. Tut mir Leid. Nun schönen Tag noch. -- Sca (talk) 15:23, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Errors in the summary of the featured list

Friday's FL

(October 4)

Monday's FL

(September 30, today)

Errors in the summary of the featured picture

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