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The result was redirect‎ to Ranger#Sports. (non-admin closure) asilvering (talk) 22:54, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Rangers (sports team)

Rangers (sports team) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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unnecessary disambiguation, all articles here are already included in rangers — Karnataka 22:40, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. — Karnataka 22:46, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
• Delete I thought there was another avenue for unnecessary DAB pages. In any case, delete per nom. Conyo14 (talk) 23:12, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

There is another avenue for this. Redirect per the below. Conyo14 (talk) 20:01, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

@Conyo14 disambiguations come through AfD as they are mainspace pages. Please say what the avenue is if I'm wrong. — Karnataka 20:23, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 23:27, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to Ranger#Sports as a incomplete disambiguator. ~ A412 ^talk! 01:26, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect per A412. Standard {{R from incomplete disambiguation}}. SilverLocust 💬 07:34, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect as a {{R from incomplete disambiguation}}. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:37, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to Rangers#Sports per the above. Left guide (talk) 05:43, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

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The result was redirect‎ to Document (album). Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:35, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

King of Birds

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It's possible someone looking for "King of Birds" is looking for some bird, but the history of this disambiguation page shows that there is no consensus of what bird. They could be looking for the R.E.M. song. I don't think any of the other choices are likely. At first I edited the page down, but it should probably be deleted or possibly redirected to Document (album) which mentions, but does not discuss about the song.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  19:50, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs, Biology, and Disambiguations.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  19:50, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

• Redirect to Document (album). Shouldn't need any hatnotes as I doubt those terms would be easily confused for each other. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 04:30, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to Document (album) - This looks like an early attempt to disambiguate something that nobody would ever be confused about. There is a lovely Kingbird but I doubt that anyone interested would mistakenly search for it as "King of Birds". The only search possibility is the R.E.M. song so redirect there as basic housekeeping. Also note that until today this page was referenced unnecessarily at Kingbird (disambiguation) (that one is a proper name) which I will fix. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:50, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎ current article and then move Ceratodus (genus) to Ceratodus. Daniel (talk) 12:47, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Ceratodus

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Needless disambiguation page, as there are only two topics. The extinct lungfish genus seems to be the primary topic (the Queensland settlement is a small hamlet), going by pageview counts prior to the move, so it should be the primary title per WP:DAB: A disambiguation page with only two meanings is not necessary if one of them is the primary topic for that term. Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:25, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions. Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:25, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
• Given the reclassification of things that older works say to be Ceratodus but are not named such now, Neoceratodus is a plausible third place to direct readers to, making this not a two-topic disambiguation. Uncle G (talk) 15:12, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
• Keep: Don't believe there is a primary topic here and the page is useful for helping readers navigate to the page they are looking for.  // Timothy :: talk  07:30, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
  • This is demonstrably not true. The extinct lungfish is the primary topic by at least a factor of 5 [1]. Hemiauchenia (talk) 07:36, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 22:04, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

• Keep: following Uncle G's lead, I added Neoceratodus as a third target, tipping the scales into useful-DAB territory. Owen× ☎ 13:49, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organisms and Australia. Owen× ☎ 13:50, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
• Delete Nom has it right; the genus has a strong claim as the primary topic, and for readers there is no reason for (nor any benefit in) landing at Ceratodus (genus) when searching for Neoceratodus, as we have articles for both genera and they are multiply linked by hatnote and in text. Two topics, best resolved by hatnote. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 08:31, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
  • It's the other way around. People searching for things that used to be named Ceratodus need some way of knowing that Neoceratodus is where they now need to go. Uncle G (talk) 14:04, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes, turned it round. The point remains - we don't want to vector people looking for Ceratodus to Neoceratodus because the original genus name still remains. There is a (counts) 22/28 chance that they do not actually want to go to Neoceratodus. The correct place for the reader to figure that out is at the genus article, not at a disambiguation junction. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 09:07, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Move as suggested below seems suitable. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 11:20, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

• Delete and Move Ceratodus (genus) to Ceratodus, adjusting hatnotes. The town (population 28) seems to have pageviews about a tenth those of the genus - see here, complicated by the fact that the genus was at the base name until late December when it was moved. So my !vote is really Revert December 2023 pagemove because the genus is the primary topic. PamD 10:26, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:09, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

• Move Ceratodus (genus) to Ceratodus, precisely per User:PamD, and per WP:PRIMARY TOPIC. A hatnote is a wonderful thing. BD2412 T 21:20, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Seems like Move is stronger here, but there is some consensus for keep.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TLA (talk) 11:13, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

• Move – The genus has been demonstrated to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Svartner (talk) 20:52, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
• Delete and Move Ceratodus (genus) to Ceratodus per PamD. This isn't so much a deletion discussion, more a discussion about reverting a previous move. TarnishedPath^talk 11:19, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

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See also

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Disambiguation/Article alerts, a bot-maintained listing of a variety of changes affecting disambiguation pages including deletion discussions