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February 18

Meryl Davis and Charlie White

Meryl Davis and Charlie White (figure skater) won the Olympic gold medal yesterday for ice dancing. Is there anywhere on the internet where I can see a video of their winning performance? I checked on You Tube, and they seem to have only past performances from older competitions. Also, if possible, a video of the medals awarding ceremony? Is any of this stuff out there? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:53, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

It might be on the NBC Olympics website. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 23:27, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Try this: [1] You'll have to put up with an ad or two first. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 23:30, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that was perfect ... thanks! Can anyone find the medal ceremony for this? Thank you. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 00:10, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

NBC only just this evening showed it, so I expect it will be available on the website at some point. Immediately after the event, they gave the couples bouquets, with the medal presentation to come some time later. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 05:54, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

OK, thanks. I will check the NBC website. However, I had always thought that they give the medals pretty much immediately after the events. No? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:17, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

That's what I thought too. But they made the specific point at the end of the dance competition that they were awarding bouquets in the ice arena and that the medal presentation would be later, in the Olympic park. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 23:02, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Hmmmmm. I wonder why that was? Thanks for the help above. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 22:18, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

I have no idea. When the Canadian women won gold today, the medal presentations were done immediately afterward, in the arena, as I would have expected. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 00:50, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 17:26, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

February 19

"El coquí" song

Does Wikipedia have an article about the song "El coqui"? I cannot seem to find it. This is quite a popular song, and I'd be surprised if Wikipedia does not have an article on it. I am not sure if that ("El coqui") is the official title. That may just be the popularly known refrain and/or lyrics. Here is a You Tube video of it: [2]. Anyone? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:00, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

I couldn't find it mentioned either on English or Spanish Wikipedia. Our general article on Coquí does mention 'The sound of a Coquí can be heard distinctly at the beginning and end of the songs "Acércate" and "Ángel Caído" ', but that has nothing to do with the children's song. There are even common English nursery rhymes/children's songs that don't have an article here yet, e.g. "A Diller, A Dollar". ---Sluzzelin talk 10:08, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Wow, I am really surprised. Is there some page (or WikiProject) where I can offer this as a recommendation? I really don't have the time or the knowledge to start the article myself. But, I think it should be started. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:20, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

You could post it at Wikipedia:Requested_articles/music/Songs. I have no idea what the odds are that this will help turn it into an article, but there's nothing to lose either. ---Sluzzelin talk 22:18, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I will try that page. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 22:40, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 17:26, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Name of a Film

What is the name of the film, where a child from NZ is forced to learn Rachmaninov on piano, then moves to England to become a concert pianist and ends up in a lunatic asylum due to the stress? Apparently it's a true story. KägeTorä - (影虎) (TALK) 15:52, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Shine (film) --Viennese Waltz 15:55, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

That's the one! Excellent! Thanks! KägeTorä - (影虎) (TALK) 15:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Brilliant film. But set (mostly) in Australia rather than New Zealand.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 16:30, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

I wonder if the movie The Piano, which is set in NZ and released 3 years before Shine, led to the confusion (even though it's about a much earlier age). StuRat (talk) 21:22, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Possibly, but the only thing those two movies have in common is that a piano has a major role. Oh, one other thing: both the directors are Australians, or at least Australian-resident, but both were born overseas (Jane Campion was from New Zealand, and Scott Hicks was born in Uganda). -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:57, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

"Dropzone"

So when the full version of "Dropzone" by Richie Sosa and Donnie Daydream comes out? I still can't find anything besides the 1-minute tune from Lexus CT advert. Lexus blog doesn't shine much light on it either (I hope the tune wasn't made specifically for that advert). Brandmeister^talk 20:31, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

This is the production company: Godiy Music — Seems like they only do "music placement" (i.e.: commercials, etc.).   ~:71.20.250.51 (talk) 02:40, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Jana Pittman, and who else?

Been hesitant to ask this here, because it's just about my own country, but it's really bothering me. Jana Pittman yesterday competed for Australia in the two-woman bobsleigh at the 2014 Winter Olympics. Part of the publicity surrounding her has been that she is the first Australian female athlete to compete in both Summer and Winter games. (She is also a 400 metre runner and hurdler.)

But who was the first male to do this? Or... Yesterday I saw a normally very reliable source tell us that she is the first Australian to compete at both forms of the Games, with no gender mentioned.

Anyone know for sure? HiLo48 (talk) 22:15, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

I didn't find a comprehensive list on Wikipedia (there is short list of those who competed both in summer and winter with most appearances, but it obviously excludes quite a few). So I performed a WP:CATSCAN once again. I got two male Australian athletes who had competed at both the Summer and Winter Paralympics (Anthony Bonaccurso and Dominic Monypenny), but none at the Summer and Winter Olympics. ---Sluzzelin talk 22:42, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that. (I do have an interest in the Paralympics.) Michael Milton competed at both versions of the Paralympics too. HiLo48 (talk) 00:08, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

As you probably know, HiLo, the Australian media generally has a sort of indifferent attitude to female sportspersons. Best exemplified by the golfiste Karrie Webb, who this week won her 5th (fifth) Australian Women's Open, but got scant mention for her troubles. As far as I can tell, nobody else has won more than twice. Had a man achieved this quintuple feat, it would have been front page news. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:57, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes. Jana, however, seems to have done enough to achieve media attention, but it wasn't all by competing. HiLo48 (talk) 00:08, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

A while ago I asked this question on Jana's Talk page, and an answer appeared there today. Paul Narracott did it. Very similar events to Jana. HiLo48 (talk) 01:27, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

(Just in case anyone's interested: Catscan itself didn't fail here, but the categorization of some of our articles did perhaps. Paul Narracott can't be found in the Category:Competitors at the 1984 Summer Olympics (or any other category referring to Summer Olympics), so he slipped through my dragnet.

Another difficulty I had, was the fact that seasonally specific "Olympic competitors" categories do not exist upward beyond "Competitors at the [YEAR] Summer/Winter Olympics". From then on the categories go by Olympics (the games) rather than competitors (people), and in the end I had to pick Category:Summer Olympic Games and Category:Winter Olympic Games, and scanned them together with Category:Australian athletes. (I decided to distinguish the male athletes by reading the results' first names). At first glance I thought "wow!" because the tool gave me lot of male athletes. Apart from the two I named, however, they were all figure skaters. Reason: Category:Olympic figure skaters of Australia is part of Category:Olympic figure skaters is part of Category:Figure skating at the Olympic Games which is part of Category:Summer Olympic events (!) because in 1908 and 1920 figure skating events were contested at the Summer Olympics (there were no Winter Olympics yet). As I said, just in case anyone's interested :-) ---Sluzzelin talk 23:20, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

February 20

Metal or techno song sampling Pulp Fiction

Hi, I'm looking for a metal or techno song that starts with a sample from Pulp Fiction when Yolanda and Pumpkin hold up the restaurant and Yolanda screams: "None of you fucking pricks move or I'm gonna kill every last one of ya". I've rewatched the movie a few days ago and it's been bugging me ever since 93.139.21.87 (talk) 01:38, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Could be "Scooby Snacks (song)". ~:71.20.250.51 (talk) 03:32, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

No, I don't think that's the one. The one I remember was much more energetic 93.139.7.192 (talk) 00:51, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

I would've said Scooby Snacks, too, but Google does also point to DJ Freak - Rot In Hell (which I don't know, but it appears to be speedcore and thus a tad more energetic. --— Rhododendrites ^talk |  20:20, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

February 21

1960s Subliminal US TV Sign-off

Can anyone confirm if the clips on Youtube showing subliminal messages during a 1960s US TV sign-off are real or not? Can you add the clip to a Wikipedia page referencing subliminal messaging if real. Eg: here is one example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y06RG_ffa0Q There are several versions of this - the original was posted by Naomi19631963 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMZ_rQKAy7c — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.243.222.24 (talk) 13:34, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Funny stuff. Even if it was a deliberate attempt at "subliminal messages" and not just the overactive imagine of the analyst, as far as I know the old idea of "subliminal messages" has long since been debunked. Those things go by too fast for the brain to pick them up. As indicated on the TV series "Brain Games", this kind of thing only works if it really jumps out at you. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 18:47, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

If you don't think subliminal persuasion is effective, check out this video. (The "reveal" at the end is remarkable)  ~E:71.20.250.51 (talk) 19:38, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

If it was really very effective, people doing subliminal adds would have taken over the world by now, with subliminal ads for their politicians, for example. StuRat (talk) 21:16, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

This has been studied and used in marketing. Speaking of Brain Games:  2013 episode 5 ("Power of Persuation") — response priming and/or pre-attentive processing was featured, relating to subliminal stimuli.  "This episode unveils the subtle tactics that advertisers, marketers and con men can use to get you to do what they want, without you noticing."^[3]  ~E:71.20.250.51 (talk) 00:28, 22 February 2014 (UTC) [Modified:00:36, 22 February 2014 (UTC)]

I was thinking of the time they flashed a series of silhouettes in quick succession, and they were all a blur except for the outline of a big spider, which registered right away, even though it was on-screen no longer than any of the other images. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:04, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

But it's the stuff you're not consciously aware you've registered subconsciously that has the profoundest effect. This is the basis of hypnotic suggestion, which, if done effectively, the subject has no memory of ever hearing. Same with stuff you have no memory of ever seeing. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 05:28, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Well, it just sounds bogus to me, like homeopathy. That one youtube, even when they slowed it down I couldn't see what they were talking about. Not much of a subliminal message. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 07:35, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Apparently you have no idea what "subliminal" means. See Subliminal stimuli, particularly the bit about it being beyond a person's threshold of conscious perception. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 07:41, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

I think Bugs has a point. If your conscious mind can't recognize the image slowed down, then your unconscious mind isn't going to recognize it, either. It's not like your unconscious mind has vast extra abilities to recognize things. And, again, if it was an effective advertising technique, then it would be far more widely used than it is. StuRat (talk) 14:37, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

I am slack-jawed with stupefaction at the amazing levels of ignorance I'm seeing on this subject:

• It's not like your unconscious mind has vast extra abilities to recognize things. - that is the exact opposite of the truth, Stu.
• ... if it was an effective advertising technique, then it would be far more widely used than it is - subliminal advertising has been banned in many countries (as long ago as 1958 in the USA, UK and Australia) and has been condemned by the United Nations [4]), exactly because of the lack of transparency involved; potential consumers were being influenced to buy stuff without their being consciously aware of this influence.[5]

It would be good to see ref desk respondents, particularly those of long standing, not just shoot from the lip when they hear something that sounds "bogus" to them; nobody knows everything; a little bit of research would have been indicated first. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 19:40, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

To be fair, the BBC article gives a 66% success rate for "negative" words and only 50% for "positive". By that math, I can influence a coin flip with positive messages. And Judas Priest was found not guilty. There's probably more going on in our brain that we can't see. Just hard to measure, obviously. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:08, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

Did you even read my comments, Jack (because your sources do nothing to disprove anything I said) ? Your first source doesn't say the subconscious has an ability to perceive something that, even slowed down, you conscious mind could not. It listed English words, which, presumably, slowed down, the conscious mind could perceive. And in your 2nd source, the judge agreed with the defense that "the power of such a message to move a person to action has never been proven ". Occam's razor applies here. If you claim there is some insidious mind-control method that we are helpless to resist, that's the outrageous claim, so you need to provide the proof. I don't intend to submit proof that the Earth isn't riding on the back of a turtle either.

Oh, and what about all those nations where subliminal advertising is legal ? Shall we assume the entire public in those nations has been transformed into mindless zombies by endless subliminal ads by now ? StuRat (talk) 20:07, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Not the entire public. Just the most loyal viewers. And a suggestion doesn't (or shouldn't) make them "mindless". It's just an addition. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:12, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

Well, that puts it back in the realm of regular ads, which do the same thing, so nothing magical about them. StuRat (talk) 20:18, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Close, but if I hear a man tell me to do/buy/kill something, I can counter with practical/financial/moral reasoning. If I don't know I was told, I can't argue. Pre-emptively avoiding the backlash isn't a surefire way to sell Armour hot dogs, but it's a good first step. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:29, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

Stu, naturally I read what you wrote. How else could I have quoted your sentences back at you? I at least provided some references. All you've done is argued the toss as if this were a debating society or a palaver with your buddies down at the bar. It's not that. It's a service for our clients, based on referenceable sources, not on what we individually happen to think is or is not the case. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 23:56, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

It is possible to cut and paste something without reading it, but perhaps "comprehend" would have been a better word than "read", since you seemed to miss the critical bits. I also don't think that references which don't support your point are an improvement over no references. StuRat (talk)

You're still debating but providing nothing at all to support your strangely uneducated opinions. This is at the level of "Fly to the Moon? Nah, that's completely impossible". -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 02:46, 23 February 2014 (UTC)]

You're the one with the uneducated opinion, as your "sources" which don't support your statements show. Here's a couple that support mine, since you seem incapable of looking them up yourself: [6], [7]. The last source even has the originator of the subliminal advertising myth admitting that he faked his data. I've now wasted enough time on this. StuRat (talk) 03:06, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

No need to be petulant. Why is it up to me to find sources to support what you're saying? That is surely your job. Thank you. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 06:12, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

You insulted me with that "uneducated opinions" bit, and then didn't seem to understand that since you are making the outrageous mind control claims, you are the one with the burden of proof. "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." StuRat (talk) 00:09, 24 February 2014 (UTC)]

When I uttered those words, you had not provided one single reference for anything you were saying. Not one. It was all just you intellectualising about why this sort of thing couldn't possibly work. They were your opinions; and speaking as someone who has achieved qualifications in Clinical Hypnotherapy and obviously studied this area of human interaction, in my opinion your opinions were uneducated. I see nothing insulting about saying that; it was just a statement of fact. Opinions can either be backed up by evidence, or they can't. In this case you hadn't at that stage provided any evidence, so I feel I was entitled to characterise your opinions as "uneducated". But I'm sorry if you were insulted, all the same.

Please point out where I made any claims about mind control, outrageous or otherwise. I talked about people being "influenced to buy stuff without their being consciously aware of this influence". This is exactly what was demonstrated (not buying, but designing a poster, logo etc) in the OP's video. They were given clues about what to draw, without ever being aware they were given those clues. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 10:27, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

You had no way of knowing what level of education I had on the subject, so calling my statements "uneducated opinions" was completely inappropriate. StuRat (talk) 15:34, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Fair enuf. I withdraw the offending words. That leaves you with saying the same thing straight back to me, so you should now withdraw that as well. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:06, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

I'd like to see a rigorous study about this notion of flashing words in a frame or two of a motion picture and somehow having that imprint on your subconscious. If such stuff has been made illegal, either those lawmakers bought into this idea, or they didn't but passed the laws anyway "just in case" it might actually be possible. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 17:25, 23 February 2014 (UTC)]

Not an answer, but this is some detailed American legal background (if you have half a day to spare). -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 19:05, 23 February 2014 (UTC)]

I don't believe in the flashing text kind of subliminal message, in case I implied I do. You need your conscious brain to read. Hidden sounds and images are what I'm about. I'll look for sources. Here's a 1992 patent for silent subliminal mind control, in the meantime. Not sure if it works, but it exists. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:27, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

This study suggests we recognize sub- and supraliminally projected fearful faces in different parts of our brains. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:53, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

That's why the spider image jumps out you in the silhouette thing I mentioned earlier. We have programmed ourselves to be on the alert for anything we perceive as dangerous. The rest of it didn't look like anything scary, so it didn't register. Here's one way to test this subliminal wording hypothesis: You know those movie trailer commercials, in which the credits flash on-screen for like half a second at the end? How many of those credits are you able to capture and remember? And that's with the message being right out in the open. Words take longer to register than image do. I don't see any way someone this side of Superman or Commander Data could make out a few words in a single sentence that appears as one sentence is being rolled out and the next one rolled in. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:21, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Meanwhile, back to the OP's query... I'm only finding references from the usual conspiratorial sources.  If this were legit, I'd expect to find references from reliable sources; however, it is not implausible (especially during Hoover's era).  On YouTube, "seeing ain't necessarily believing". ~E:71.20.250.51 (talk) 03:03, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

• The fact that Stu doesn't notice their effectiveness simply proves their effectiveness. μηδείς (talk) 18:27, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

• I'd expect I'd notice when the subliminal ads wore off: "I'm a man with no baby in the house, so why exactly did I buy tampons and diapers ?". :-) StuRat (talk) 20:13, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

"I'm giving you a choice: either put on these glasses or start eatin' that trash can." InedibleHulk (talk) 18:37, February 22, 2014 (UTC)

Olympic blue lines

In the Olympics, there are blue lines painted on skiing and snowboarding courses. I have never noticed these before. When were these lines introduced, and why are they now necessary?    → Michael J Ⓣ Ⓒ Ⓜ 16:20, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

I can't answer the "when" part, but I can tell you why - they delineate the actual course itself and give assistance to skiers in poor light conditions. --TammyMoet (talk) 16:38, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Well, they've been at previous Winter Olympics - this 2010 article says "The blue line is a relatively recent development in the long history of skiing". This article (8th paragraph down) suggests that they're only necessary on overcast days when the daylight is not good enough to enable the skiers to see the best line. Finally, this article says; "Back in the 1980s, before the blue lines became the norm, eight-inch pine boughs were shoved into the ground by track workers every few feet down the course to serve as visual cues". Alansplodge (talk) 12:49, 22 February 2014 (UTC).

Wanted (2008 film)

1. When Sloan found out that he was targeted by Loom of Fate, is it true that Sloan started making a list of Fake Targets?

2. If it's true that Sloan made a List of Fake Targets, then does it mean that those Fake Targets are Innocent People?

3. After Cross found out that Sloan made a List of Fake Targets, Cross became Rogue but how did Cross become Rogue & what did Cross do that was (Rogue Behavior)?

4. Since Cross became Rogue, does it just mean that Cross decided to Retire from the Fraternity?

5. Why didn't Cross tell the Fraternity Members the Truth about Sloan?

6. Since Cross killed Mr. X at the beginning of this Movie, is it because Mr. X was tracking down Wesley or is it because Mr. X killed atleast 1 innocent person?

7. (When Wesley told those Fraternity Members that Sloan's a traitor, why did those Fraternity Members decide to kill Wesley? Why didn't those Fraternity Members feel Sorry for killing Innocent People? I know that Vesper felt sorry for killing Innocent People, so that's why Vesper killed those Fraternity Members, that's why Vesper wanted to save Wesley's life, & that's why Vesper killed herself.)(76.20.90.53 (talk) 22:29, 21 February 2014 (UTC)).

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February 22

Back to the Future 3 Saloon Old Timers

I ran into a bit of a problem on Back to the Future 3, mainly that the article doesn't mention the three famous "Saloon old Timers" who appear in the movie. When attempting to add this information, it was reverted twice by a user based on a "poll" in which two users voted. When trying to reopen the discussion, the material was again reverted with the note "the matter is closed"[8]. I recently re-watched the entire series and was in fact quite surprised that the Wikipedia article didn't mention the names of the three western actors. Also, and not to be too harsh here, saying that two editors conducting a vote between themselves is consensus just isn't the case and gets dangerously towards WP:OWN. Comments are welcome here. Thank you! -OberRanks (talk) 15:12, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

The "poll" is invalid. It should have been posted as an WP:RfC, left open for far more than two days, and been closed by an uninvolved admin. I agree the editor is expressing ownership. That being said, this is not the place to address content disputes. Also, there should not have been so many options, as this clouds the issue. You can file a new, valid RfC. Ask for help at Wikipedia:Help desk if you need it. If there is further contention over posting an RfC you can comment at WP:AN or WP:ANI as appropriate. μηδείς (talk) 18:23, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

It appears that a compromise has been reached. The thing about cast lists is that IMDB has room from complete cast clear down to the coffee-and-donuts guy, but that's beyond the scope of the typical Wikipedia article about a film. It's reasonable to mention interesting cameos within the article, in passing. Like for example the real Chuck Yeager appearing in a bar scene early in The Right Stuff, opposite the actor playing Yeager. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 17:35, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Or the real Arnold Schwarzenegger in Last Action Hero, beside the actor playing Schwarzenegger. —Tamfang (talk) 09:07, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Rapping

The Wikipedia page that give the definition of rapping, gives reference to many artists. I distinctly remember the first artist I ever heard rap, was a man named Rudy Ray Moore. Rudy Ray Moore's work and albums came out in the 60's and we're considered adult only content. However his style and delivery was clearly copied and cleaned up by modern artists. Some effort to credit this entertainer with his contribution to rap music should be investigated. Ice t, clearly and precisely sampled his delivery in the 90's. Others have as well, in an interview, Rudy Ray Moore once said that by the time today's artists knew what to do with it (rap) I was through with it!,,, <email redacted> 2/22/2014 USA , after watching Jimmy Fallon and Justin timberlakes history of rap#5. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:4:1D00:1063:2916:F7E5:9ECB:94CE (talk) 19:15, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Rudy Ray Moore has an article, and there are plenty of sources like this and this that mention him as "presag[ing] the rap revolution in music by a good 20 years...". The place to suggest to other editors that his contribution should be recognised is Talk:Rapping. Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:28, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Where was Devon Sawa's son born?

In early January, his son Hudson was born. I want to know whether the baby was born in Los Angeles or Toronto, both residences of Sawa. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Japanesehelper (talk • contribs) 21:39, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

February 23

Help Identifying a Film - Please

The film opens with the star - an American agent/spy/special ops guy - using amazing skills and guts to get through wild mountainous country to get to a meet at some sort of cabin in a remote location. The guy in the cabin (a similar agent) is expecting him but has trouble believing that he got there by the route that he did. The cabin comes under attack and it looks like the organisation bosses want our hero dead.

Key to the plot is that these agents take some sort of pill or injection regularly that boosts their physical prowess and mental alertness to almost super-human levels.

Can anyone identify the film title please?

Thanks Gurumaister (talk) 12:54, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

That would the The Bourne Legacy. Comradezombie1 (talk) 16:35, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

He'll be seeking political office in the next installment, Bourne to Run. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 14:22, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

You are a HERO Comradezombie. Thank you. Gurumaister (talk) 16:43, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Xiangqi End-game

I'm studying a book on Xiangqi and it insists that if red has a rook and black has 2 ministers/elephants plus a knight, red can still win. It seems to me that black has no way to win with just a knight to attack with, but it also seems to me that the elephants defend the king far too well for red to checkmate black. How can red win this matchup? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.171.10.159 (talk) 23:42, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

February 24

Educational series where a boy defeats an evil wizard using reading skills.

I'm looking for the name of a very bizarre series of short educational videos I remember being shown in school in (I believe) 3rd grade. The subject headline is the best summary of the plot I can provide, sadly. I want to track it down and see if it's really as nonsensical as I vaguely remember. I would've seen it around 1996, and (from what I recall) it seemed to have been relatively recently produced. 173.68.52.132 (talk) 06:02, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Was he wearing purple? In any case, maybe this list of examples of the "Portal Book" trope can help. I sort of vaguely recall something like that, but it may have just been an Alphabits commercial. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:57, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

Not exactly a wizard or series, but maybe "The Tale of the Bookish Babysitter"? InedibleHulk (talk) 09:04, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

The Pagemaster has a wizard, but it's a movie. InedibleHulk (talk) 09:06, February 24, 2014 (UTC)

Through The Dragon's Eye perhaps? I seem to remember it being just about as nonsensical as the asker describes. Give me a prod on my talk page if you find way to get it. MChesterMC (talk) 11:15, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

It wasn't Wishbone (TV series) was it? It was about the right time period and type of show, though I don't remember any specific episodes. --Jayron32 14:09, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Looking for "Red Letter Media's Episode I Review - A Study in Fanboy Stupidity"

Dear Gentlemen.

I have seen the review of "Star Wars Episode I" from RedLetterMedia und I was curious to read the reactions of the other side (of the persons who enjoy the newer Star Wars movies). Do you have a link where I can get the PDF document called "Red Letter Media's Episode I Review - A Study in Fanboy Stupidity"? Thank you very much for your help.

Kind regards.--92.105.189.138 (talk) 13:27, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

After a cursory search, it only appears to be available on payment. Here for example. Rojomoke (talk) 19:30, 24 February 2014 (UTC)