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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 29, 2024.

Sam Boughton

• Sam Boughton → Electoral district of Terrigal  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Useless redirect. We never have articles for failed candidates unless they are notable, not even as redirects to the seat they failed to win. If we do have articles for failed candidates who haven't been elected to any office prior to failing to be elected then again they have to be notable (e.g Katherine Deves is notable because of her outspoken controversial views and her political activism, plus her preselection itself was controversial). Sam Boughton isn't notable and he was Labor's unsuccessful candidate for Terrigal (a seat the Liberals retained). I'm not sure why this article was even created in the first place but I think it should be deleted per notability guidelines and for consistency with every other article. 37.0.81.236 (talk) 23:59, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: Per WP:RFDHOWTO you're supposed to marktag the redirect you nominated. I did it for you. Also something seems messed up here considering the "add new entries" comment is below the nomination but I'll let someone who knows what they're doing fix that. Nickps (talk) 00:43, 30 March 2024 (UTC);edited 00:46, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
  • I've fixed that. Thryduulf (talk) 02:06, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

    Thanks. Now, I don't like rewarding work with more work but something else I noticed is that since I tagged the redirect on March 30 UTC, the link in the RfD notice sends people to that day's log. Is that fixable? Nickps (talk) 02:13, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

    Yes, and done. For future reference you can use the days=n parameter of the rfd template to do this automatically, n is number of days before the current day the redirect was nominated, e.g. for to tag a redirect nominated yesterday (or to add a redirect to a discussion on yesterday's page) use {{subst:rfd|days=1|content=.... Thryduulf (talk) 03:33, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

'Court of attachment

• 'Court of attachment → Royal forest#Courts  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Random apostrophe at the start suggests WP:G6 but, since Court of attachment does not exist, I wanted to be sure. Nickps (talk) 23:45, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

'Appy 'Ampstead'

• 'Appy 'Ampstead' → Albert Ketèlbey  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Appears to be a mistake. The target mentions " 'Appy 'Ampstead", notice the lack of a single quote at the end indicating that the first single quote was intended to be an apostrophe (like the second). Nickps (talk) 23:36, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Climate: The Movie

• Climate: The Movie → Martin Durkin (director)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This documentary is not even mentioned in the redirect target. Leyo 22:46, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: Looks like it currently is mentioned at the redirect target (added by an IP user an hour or so ago) 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 23:26, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Anastasia Horne

• Anastasia Horne → Undressed  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Actressed featured in several other shows, including a Buffy episode, Kids Incorporated and The Bachelor (1999 film). Does not seem to have enough sources for an independent article. PAge has been edit-warred back and forth from a near-sourcless article to a redirect. Rusalkii (talk) 21:32, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Restore without prejudice to AfD. Thryduulf (talk) 02:09, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Blatta Guziki

• Blatta Guziki → Blatta  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Contested WP:PROD candidate. Still an invalid name (WP:SPECIES), no point on a redirect to parent genus. If the species gets accepted, I'm happy for restoration. Until then the redirect, nor article, serves no purpose. NotAGenious (talk) 18:13, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Restore and send to AfD as a contested PROD and contested BLAR. Thryduulf (talk) 19:27, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

  That's a good idea. Can it be boldly done, or do we need this discussion to conclude? NotAGenious (talk) 20:08, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Delete without redirect. It doesn't exist. It's not a scientific name, it's not even a misspelling of a scientific name (see here. As far as I can see, it's nothing, except possibly someone's "in-joke" pretending there's a cockroach named after one of his friends/enemies. It smells entirely like a practical joke, and doesn't need to be here. Dyanega (talk) 00:59, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Battle Searcher

• Battle Searcher → Gameplay of Pokémon#Items  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:47, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Delete. According to Bulbapedia, this is the directly-translated Japanese name of the Vs. Seeker, a Key Item from the 3rd Gen Kanto and 4th Gen Sinnoh games. We don't need info on this-- We're not Bulbapedia. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 01:24, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Muhammad Murtadlo Dimyathi

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete per WP:CSD#G6. Thryduulf (talk) 19:30, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Muhammad Murtadlo Dimyathi → Muhammad Murtadho Dimyathi  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

A typo by an editor. Quickly moved. Викидим (talk) 17:47, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

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Mecha Break

• Mecha Break → The Game Awards 2023  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Non-notable game announced at the show and just mentioned as an item of the list in the target page. If it becomes notable, WP:RFD#DELETE #10 would still apply. Викидим (talk) 17:46, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Silphscope

• Silphscope → Gameplay of Pokémon#Items  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:46, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Silph Scope is also a redirect with the same target which should be added to the nomination. There seems to be some history here, it looks like at some point stubs for the subject existed at Silphscope, Silph Scope and Silph scope, even simultaneously. Nickps (talk) 00:20, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

  On a related note, since there is no item list at the target anymore, List of Pokémon items and List of Pokemon items should also be nominated, probably at a separate RfD. Nickps (talk) 00:26, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. It is a key plot item in the games but is otherwise non-notable outside of the verse. --Lenticel ^(talk) 02:57, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

The First Berserker: Khazan

• The First Berserker: Khazan → The Game Awards 2023  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Non-notable game announced at the show and just mentioned as an item of the list in the target page. If it becomes notable, WP:RFD#DELETE #10 would still apply. Викидим (talk) 17:46, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Mythical Pokémon

• Mythical Pokémon → Gameplay of Pokémon#Mythical Pokémon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:44, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Retarget to List of Pokémon. I assume at the time of me making this there was originally a section dedicated to the concept. If not then I don't know why it's here. I think now its better suited on the List of Pokémon article as that is where the concept is explained in some form of detail. CaptainGalaxy 18:51, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

7.9

• 7.9 → 8  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete Seems useless and potentially misleading. From the history it appears that someone made an article under the title about a music album's review score in some magazine, it was nominated for speedy, and someone else rounded the number off and redirected it. Trovatore (talk) 16:29, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Delete, 7.9 is not 8. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:06, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: Misleading StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 17:19, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
• Delete Not the same thing. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:50, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 11:48, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: per WP:NFRINGE 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 21:23, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

  I'm not sure how that's relevant to the redirect? Thryduulf (talk) 22:57, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

  The '7.9 = 8' theory touted by this redirect is some very fringe pseudomathematics 🙏‍ 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 23:05, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

  Ohhhh, okay. Fair enough! 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 23:09, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

  I uh, think HotMess is saying that this isn't notable? ...Not sure why zhe'd use WP:NFRINGE over WP:GNG or other notability tests. The conclusion is correct, though, 7.9 isn't a notable number. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 23:07, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Immigration control in Russia

• Immigration control in Russia → Federal Migration Service  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I'm not sure this is the best target for this redirect. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:24, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Retarget to Illegal immigration to Russia. Doing a history dive, this was the original target, before being retargeted to Federal Migration Service 20 days later by its own creator. As it stands, this seems like the most relevant, widest-shot page on this topic (Because one agency has not been in control of this issue for Russia's entire existence as a country, retargeting to any one of said agencies would be a disservice.)

...Alternately, we COULD Dabify between Immigration to Russia, Illegal immigration to Russia, Federal Migration Service, and Main Directorate for Migration Affairs. There IS a third agency listed as a predecessor to the Federal Migration Service in its article, but that agency doesn't have a page. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 17:16, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• The immigration control is not illegal immigration, but the fight against it (among other things), my first choice is therefore keep. If this is a no-go for some reason, then dabify it per Lunamann. --Викидим (talk) 21:29, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

  That doesn't explain why Main Directorate for Migration Affairs, the agency that replaced Federal Migration Service, isn't just as valid a target as Federal Migration Service... 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 21:52, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Joe Biden family

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) TarnishedPath^talk 14:11, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

• Joe Biden family → Family of Joe Biden  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

redirect term is not found in article nor is it likely to be a common search term TarnishedPath^talk 14:06, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Keep This seems like a very plausible search term to me. Dozens of hits on Google for this phrase. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 14:15, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. Very plausible search term. Thryduulf (talk) 15:29, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. Referring to "Family of (blank)" as the "(blank) family" is rather common in English, especially for famous/important figures. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 15:40, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

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Faulty thinking

• Faulty thinking → Fallacy  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I just created this. But to be on the safe side, I wanted to ask for opinions, as this is actually a psychological term that does not appear in the given target as such, in fact. Hildeoc (talk) 12:37, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Comment. My first thought is that a fallacy is only one type of faulty thinking, others being using incorrect logic, extrapolating from a misunderstanding, etc. Thryduulf (talk) 15:33, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

  Uhh, "using incorrect logic" is a formal fallacy, "extrapolating from a misunderstanding" is (at a minimum) an informal fallacy. Paradoctor (talk) 17:47, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Question this is actually a psychological term Can you provide a source defining this psychological term? The only uses I could find were all literal uses, i. e. talking about thinking that is faulty.
  Thinking is more general than reasoning/arguing, and from what I've seen, a case could be made to target cognitive biases instead, or in addition. Paradoctor (talk) 17:55, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

  @Paradoctor: Thanks for taking an interest. Well, if you google the term (using quotes), the hits you get are like almost exclusively related to uses in a psychological context; cf., e.g., here. Hildeoc (talk) 05:03, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

  two [...] conceptions of faulty thinking That's two different terms. So we'd need to a) disambiguate, b) find articles to link to, which are defining these idioms. Alternatively a set index article would also be conceivable, though this would require a whole lot more sources.

  More to the point, the hits are uses, not definitions / discussions of the concept. Extracting definitions from usage would be WP:SYNTHESIS Paradoctor (talk) 06:10, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Metaltron

• Metaltron → Dalek  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No mention of this name or term in Wikipedia. No incoming links. The target is quite an exhaustive article and there are multiple articles dealing with Daleks, but none have mention of what a Metaltron is. External searches link the name to Dalek in fansites, but having this redirect doesn't inform a reader on Wikipedia any further. Suggest to Delete. Jay 💬 08:31, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Weak Delete. As a note, if this should point anywhere, it should point to Dalek (Doctor Who episode), where one of the characters refers to a Dalek by this moniker. However, the article does not currently mention this in its current state. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 09:16, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Eastman Village

• Eastman Village → Harrow, London  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Eastman Village is not mentioned at the target article. The only mention of "Eastman" is in a link to the Kodak article. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 01:56, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

• It seems to be a new housing estate on the site of a Kodak[1]. Maybe it should me covered in the target. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:57, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
• The article has "a large industrial premises was built in 1890 by the American Eastman Kodak company in Wealdstone, and by 1965 there were over 100 buildings on a 55-acre site at Kodak Harrow, employing 5,500 people", which I believe is now Eastman Village. I would want a better source than what I have to actually add this to the article, though. Rusalkii (talk) 20:45, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

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Colon Bracket

• Colon Bracket → Emoticon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

A vague name that is not mentioned at the target page, yet can reasonably imply other punctuation topics. The history is possibly the most 2005 of them all, created in 6 edits by an editors' only 6 edits. However, it has dubious usefulness as a redirect here. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 03:56, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

• Delete as per nom. Seems to denote :] or :[, which can indeed be emoticons, but I'm not sure this 'spelling out' of an emoticon is a useful and plausible search term? ...What, is it meant for people searching for emoticons using speech to text?? (6_9) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 12:11, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. Very clearly takes people to the content they are looking for, it's not ambiguous or in the way of anything else so it's both helpful and harmless. Thryduulf (talk) 12:42, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

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• Retarget to List of emoticons: It is not mentioned at the current target but is mentioned here StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 17:22, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Kao maaku

• Kao maaku → Emoticon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Neither "Kao maaku" nor "maaku" are mentioned at the target page. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 04:06, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

• Weak delete. Potentially meant to refer to Kaomoji? 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 04:32, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

  Retarget to Kaomoji. It took some digging, but Kao maaku is (was?) definitely used as a synonym for kaomoji. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 13:54, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

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Bharat Rs

• Bharat Rs → Indian rupee  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No related search result on Google whatsoever. Northern Moonlight 07:45, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Keep "₨" (which could easily be typed as "Rs") is an older symbol for the Rupee which is still used for non-Indian Rupees, and may still be used by those who don't have easy access to the current symbol for the Indian rupee, ₹. In addition, Bharat/Bhārat is an alternate name for India.

As a note, while Google does not do so for "Bhārata Rs" or "Bhārat Rs", it WILL pull up the currency conversion calculator for the Indian Rupee with the search prompt "Bharat Rs". 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 09:33, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Bharat Rupee

• Bharat Rupee → Indian rupee  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No search result on Google except a joke comment on Reddit. Northern Moonlight 07:42, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Keep. Bhārat is an alternate name for India as per Names_for_India#Bhārata, and searching "Bhārat Rupee" (or indeed, Bharat Rupee) on Google immediately pulls up information (including Google's exchange rate calculator) for the Indian Rupee. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 09:22, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Keep per Lunamann. Thryduulf (talk) 12:21, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
• Keep per Lunamann. English Wikipedia is used by millions of people in India, who may very well search for "Bharat Rupee". Also, I see several hundred Google results including Twitter posts, blogs, etc. Kk.urban (talk) 18:47, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Alien Baltan

• Alien Baltan → Ultraman  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Alien not mentioned at the target page. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 16:06, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Keep: Not mentioned there, but is included in a lot of other related pages, to the point where I don't think there's another valid target but that it should go somewhere relevant. Tag with Template:R to article without mention and Template:R from fictional character, and maybe another editor will come along and add it later. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 08:02, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

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• Retarget to List of Return of Ultraman characters#Aliens * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 15:45, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

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Vận động viên trung lập cá nhân tại Thế vận hội mùa hè 2024

• Vận động viên trung lập cá nhân tại Thế vận hội mùa hè 2024 → Individual Neutral Athletes at the 2024 Summer Olympics  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Vietnamese translation of title, clear WP:RLANG fail (the neutral athletes are Russian and Belurusian). Rusalkii (talk) 04:39, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 12:25, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per nom --Lenticel ^(talk) 11:53, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

LGBT rights in Mzansi

• LGBT rights in Mzansi → LGBT rights in South Africa  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Does not specifically discuss the city of Mzansi in any way. Rusalkii (talk) 04:33, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: per nom. 🌺 Cremastra (talk) 19:08, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

History of the socialism in Finland

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The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD#G6. Thryduulf (talk) 12:27, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• History of the socialism in Finland → Socialism in Finland  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Accidental creation at this title; was immediately moved. Unlikely mistake when searching. Rusalkii (talk) 04:01, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

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Numerous Falcon 9 Transporter mission redirects

There was a large collection of redirects recently added such that listing them all here would be difficult. So using the template to suggest that seems impossible without a ton of busy work of adding every single one here. They were added as part of this AFC here: Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Redirects_and_categories/2023-12#Redirect_request:_SpaceX_Transporter_/_SpaceX_Falcon_9_Transporter_/_Falcon_9_Transporter_/_Transporter_(SpaceX)_/_Transporter_(Falcon_9)_/_Transporter_(SpaceX_Falcon_9)_//_SpaceX_Transporter_mission_/_SpaceX_Falcon_9_Transporter_mission_/_Falcon_9_Transporter_mission_//_SpaceX_Transporter_missions_/_SpaceX_Falcon_9_Transporter_missions_/_Falcon_9_Transporter_missions_//_SpaceX_Transporters_/_SpaceX_Falcon_9_Transporters_/_Falcon_9_Transporters. I've currently marked them for speedy deletion but the creator who fulfilled the AFC disagrees so I'm bringing the discussion here. Here's my reasoning: Firstly several of the pages have "Transporters" in the title. None of the missions have ever been called this and they are unlikely to be called this because the sense of them is wrong. No teleportation is going on. Secondly, many of the page titles imply that Falcon 9 is being transported or that SpaceX is being transported, a mistake very unlikely to be made. Thirdly, the ip address who requested the pages be created has no recent edit history on Falcon-related pages. They were likely requested as a troll of some sort. Fourthly, the missions are always referred to by number in the form "Transporter-1", "Transporter-2", etc. I request that these pages be deleted. Ergzay (talk) 02:43, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

I'll note that I unmarked SpaceX Transporter missions as I feel like that is probably the only legitimate redirect out of that set. Ergzay (talk) 02:44, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Keep they are missions called Transporter X, so pluralize that would be Transporters. They are launched on Falcon 9s from SpaceX, thus they make logical sense. I don't see where the implications the nominator is suggesting comes from. From the way that disambiguation works on Wikipedia, something called Transporter associated with SpaceX and Falcon 9 is being indicated, and not some sentence structure. So SpaceX Transporters would be a plural form redirect of the Transporter mission set from SpaceX, and not some science fiction device. That would be the grammatical meaning. Where do you get teleportation from any of this? It doesn't say teleporter. SpaceX is operating a transport mission on a Falcon 9, called "Transporter #", so there is transportation occuring, on a Falcon 9 rocket operated by SpaceX. -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 07:21, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

  They would not pluralize to Transporters. The missions are properly called "Transporter-1 mission" so would pluralize to Transporter missions. You cannot call them "Transporters". For example see: https://www.spacex.com/launches/transporter-5/ "Transporters" is a common name that teleportation is given in science-fiction. Ergzay (talk) 17:21, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Comment every nominated redirect must be tagged and listed here. If there are too many to do easily, ask an AWB user for help. Thryduulf (talk) 12:31, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

SpaceX Mars propellant plant

• SpaceX Mars propellant plant → SpaceX ambition of colonizing Mars#Program manifest  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

PROD'd by user:Ergzay, who states "Destination page no longer contains info regarding this and no page on Wikipedia exists for this. Best to return this to non-existence and let someone create it when it's needed." PROD can only be used on actual articles, so I'm moving this here as a courtesy. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 01:45, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Wasn't aware you couldn't use the template for this purpose. The documentation isn't very clear.

As to the matter at hand, even with the change in the redirect done by @N2e it still doesn't talk anything about a propellant plant. It looks like N2e did a bunch of editing to add some details quickly, but I'm not sure if this was just restoring old content that was previously deleted or not. It might get removed again given that that page has been pared down a ton from what it was because of low quality sourcing. Ergzay (talk) 02:19, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Keep, propellant plant is mentioned and discussed at target. No other conflicting articles on Wikipedia according to nom, WP:CHEAP. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 03:52, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
• Retarget to Interplanetary spaceflight#Propellant plant on a celestial body where the plant is actually discussed. A propellant plant is mentioned at the current target, but only in passing, and in such a manner that one would have to alreay know what it was to get anything useful from it (the kind of place a bluelink would be useful). A7V2 (talk) 04:14, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

That target only has a passing mention of "SpaceX propellant plant", although it does go more in depth with propellant plants there. Going to the SpaceX specific article might be preferable for people that include "SpaceX" in the search term, although I don't mind either option. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 05:21, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

It was my interpretation (perhaps incorrect) that the section, while not written that well, was more or less entirely about the SpaceX plan. The last paragraph at least is entirely about it, not what I'd call a passing mention. A7V2 (talk) 22:40, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Keep. SpaceX need for, and intent to place on Mars, propellant equipment is discussed at the target. There are clearly few details, but the notable SpaceX endeavor to build a Mars-capable large spacecraft is covered in hundreds of sources, and that spacecraft (now flying in a test program), will need the Mars-generated propellant to refill it on Mars making SpaceX discussion of the propellant facility also notable, as also shown by sources at the redirect target. N2e (talk) 10:56, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Raindrops on the Open Road (ROTOR) - EP

• Raindrops on the Open Road (ROTOR) - EP → Raindrops on the Open Road  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Doesn't appear to be a useful redirect. Has previously been tagged for R3. BangJan1999 00:06, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: It is sold as Raindrops on the Open Road (ROTOR) on Bandcamp - but not as Raindrops on the Open Road (ROTOR) - EP. 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 00:25, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
• Tentative Keep as {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}} and {{R from incorrect disambiguation}}. While HOTmess is correct in that it's not *sold* as such, I'd like to point out that this is an EP, as stated by our own article on it. Thus, I can totally see someone unfamiliar with how disambiguators work on Wikipedia using the Bandcamp title for the EP and then tacking " - EP" on the end. (Unfortunately, this was created yesterday, and so, page views won't be a helpful metric here.) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 00:51, 29 March 2024 (UTC)