Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hector Barbossa

Hector Barbossa

Hector Barbossa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

James Norrington (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Captain Teague (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Tia Dalma (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Weatherby Swann (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Joshamee Gibbs (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Pintel and Ragetti (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Kraken (Pirates of the Caribbean) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (Potential redirect to Kraken in popular culture)

Sao Feng (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log • AfD statistics)

These Pirates of the Caribbean characters do not hold any notability outside of the fictional universe as there is a lack of third party, independent and reliable sources to back the content up. Therefore, the articles are excessive plot summaries. WossOccurring (talk) 18:20, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

• Redirect them all to the respective movies. Drmies (talk) 20:06, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
• Keep at least Barbossa and Tia as major characters in arguably the most significant new film franchise of the decade. The others might be better served by merging, although none of them are so egregiously minor that an article is completely unacceptable. Sourcing should be no problem given the enormous amount of media coverage of the series. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 23:48, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

This comment fails WP:LOTSOFSOURCES, WP:IMPORTANT and WP:NOTINHERITED. WossOccurring (talk) 19:51, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

• Keep at least Norrington and Barbossa, they should have plenty of external sources, I'll go look for some now. Barbossa especially since sources point to him being in a 4th. The rest should be Redirected to a Characters of PotC page. Tphi (talk) 14:52, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

This comment fails WP:LOTSOFSOURCES and WP:NOTINHERITED. WossOccurring (talk) 19:51, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

• Keep some or mergeinto a combination article . Inappropriate group nomination, as they are not of similar importance. I must admit I too do not know the works involved, but at least I read the main Wikipedia articles and can see that much. A combination characters article is appropriate for all important works of fiction. Combination articles have contents that must meet WP:V but need not individually meet WP:GNG--for if they did, they would be separate articles. And character ≠plot -- they are separate aspects. The "cast" sections in the individual film articles are inadequate--for a franchise like this, it's better to keep all the characters together. And at least to me, if not to some of the people at the film project, characters and cast are also separate related things, each needing discussion. Retelling major amounts of the plot for each character's position in it is usually unnecessary if they are grouped in combination articles, which is another advantage. DGG ( talk ) 05:17, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

This comment fails WP:IMPORTANT. WossOccurring (talk) 19:51, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

• Strong keep - a totally absurd ignorant, unproductive delete suggestion. Keep all articles. More information is better. if you want to delete stuff, people are totally easy to go ignorant. Stop this nonsense. 174.16.239.106 (talk) 06:02, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

This comment fails WP:ILIKEIT, WP:VALINFO and WP:PA. WossOccurring (talk) 19:51, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

• Merge all these articles to one, not giving undue detail to each character. Giving a separate article to each character isn't necessary. Rkr1991 ^{(Wanna chat?)} 06:48, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
• Keep Barbossa and Norrington (they appear in every film and must have some sources). -- deerstop. 07:16, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

This comment fails WP:NOTINHERITED, WP:IMPORTANT and WP:LOTSOFSOURCES. WossOccurring (talk) 19:51, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

• Strong keep, especially Barbossa and Dalma. These articles contain lots of useful information, they're not just one- or two-paragraph stubs. I find the whole thing of deleting articles on notable fictional worlds quite absurd. --89.31.118.248 (talk) 08:01, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

This comment fails WP:ITSUSEFUL WossOccurring (talk) 19:51, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

• Absolutely keep! Barbossa is a major character that is vital to the plot, for heaven's sake, and should have a separate page. It serves no purpose to deleting this and the others that are also targeted. Also keep Norrington.PNW Raven (talk) 17:30, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

This comment fails WP:NOHARM, WP:NOTINHERITED and WP:IMPORTANT. WossOccurring (talk) 19:51, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

• Note to closing administrator and future AFD !voters - The majority of the above !votes appear to be based around the fact that users like the subject issue. Please remember to comply with Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions when airing your views. WossOccurring (talk) 19:55, 31 December 2009 (UTC)