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{{Short description|Language group}}
{{Short description|Language group}}
{{Redirect|Istvaeonic|text=This article is about a hypothetical branch of the Germanic proto-language. For the Germanic tribes described by Pliny and Tacitus, see [[Istvaeones]]}}{{Infobox language family
{{Redirect|Istvaeonic|text=This article is about a hypothetical branch of the Germanic proto-language. For the Germanic tribes described by Pliny and Tacitus, see [[Istvaeones]]}}
{{Infobox language family
| name = Weser-Rhine Germanic
| name = Weser–Rhine Germanic
| altname = Rhine–Weser Germanic, Istvaeonic
| region = Around the [[Weser]] and [[Rhine]] rivers
| region = Around the [[Weser]] and [[Rhine]] rivers
| familycolor = Indo-European
| familycolor = Indo-European
| glotto = macr1270
| glotto = macr1270
| glottorefname = Macro-Dutch
| glottorefname = Macro-Dutch
| altname = Istvaeonic
| fam2 = [[Germanic languages|Germanic]]
| fam2 = [[Germanic languages|Germanic]]
| fam3 = [[West Germanic languages|West Germanic]]
| fam3 = [[West Germanic languages|West Germanic]]
| mapcaption = The distribution of the primary [[Germanic languages]] in Europe c. AD 1:
| mapcaption = The distribution of the primary [[Germanic languages]] in Europe {{Circa|AD 1}}:
{{legend|Blue|[[North Germanic languages|North Germanic]]}}
{{legend|Blue|[[North Germanic languages|North Germanic]]}}
{{legend|Red|[[North Sea Germanic]], or Ingvaeonic}}
{{legend|Red|[[North Sea Germanic]], or Ingvaeonic}}
{{legend|Orange|'''Weser-Rhine Germanic''', or Istvaeonic}}
{{legend|Orange|'''Weser–Rhine Germanic''', or Istvaeonic}}
{{legend|Yellow|[[Elbe Germanic]], or Irminonic}}
{{legend|Yellow|[[Elbe Germanic]], or Irminonic}}
{{legend|Green|[[East Germanic languages|East Germanic]] †}}
{{legend|Green|[[East Germanic languages|East Germanic]] †}}
| map = Germanic dialects ca. AD 1.png
| map = Germanic dialects ca. AD 1.png
| child1 = [[Low Franconian]]
| child1 = {{unbulleted list||[[Central German]]|[[Low Franconian]]}}
}}
}}
'''Weser-Rhine Germanic''' is a term introduced by the German linguist [[Friedrich Maurer (linguist)|Friedrich Maurer]] for the group of prehistoric [[West Germanic]] dialects ancestral to [[Dutch language|Dutch]] and to the [[West Central German]] dialects.{{sfn|Maurer|1942|pages=123–126, 175–178}} It is a replacement for the older term '''Istvaeonic''', with which it is essentially synonymous. The term ''[[Rhine]]-[[Weser]]-Germanic'' is sometimes preferred.{{sfn|Henriksen|van der Auwera|1994|page=9}}
'''Weser–Rhine Germanic''' is a proposed group of prehistoric [[West Germanic]] dialects, which includes both [[Central German]] dialects and [[Low Franconian]], the ancestor of [[Dutch language|Dutch]].{{sfn|Wells|1987|page=39, Fig. 3}}{{sfn|Sonderegger|1979|p=71}} The term was introduced by the German linguist [[Friedrich Maurer (linguist)|Friedrich Maurer]] as a replacement for the older term '''Istvaeonic''', with which it is essentially synonymous. The term ''[[Rhine]][[Weser]] Germanic'' is sometimes preferred.{{sfn|Henriksen|van der Auwera|2013|page=9}}


== Nomenclature ==
== Nomenclature ==
The term ''Istvaeonic'' is derived from the [[Istvaeones|Istvæones]] (or Istvaeones), a culturo-linguistic grouping of [[Germanic tribes]], mentioned by [[Tacitus]] in his ''[[Germania (book)|Germania]]''.<ref>[https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.02.0083:chapter=2&highlight=suevi Tac. Ger. 2]</ref><nowiki> </nowiki>[[Pliny the Elder]] further specified its meaning by claiming that the Istævones lived near the [[Rhine]].<ref>[https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.02.0137:book=4:chapter=28&highlight= Plin. Nat. 4.28]</ref> Maurer used Pliny to refer to the dialects spoken by the [[Franks]] and [[Chatti]] around the northwestern banks of the [[Rhine]], which were presumed to be descendants of the earlier Istvaeones.{{sfn|Maurer|1952}} The [[Weser]] is a river in Germany, east of and parallel to the Rhine. The terms ''Rhine-Weser'' or ''Weser-Rhine'', therefore, both describe the area between the two rivers as a meaningful cultural-linguistic region of the [[Roman Empire]].
The term ''Istvaeonic'' is derived from the [[Istvaeones|Istvæones]] (or Istvaeones), a culturo-linguistic grouping of [[Germanic tribes]], mentioned by [[Tacitus]] in his ''[[Germania (book)|Germania]]''.<ref>[https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.02.0083:chapter=2&highlight=suevi Tac. Ger. 2]</ref> [[Pliny the Elder]] further specified its meaning by claiming that the Istævones lived near the [[Rhine]].<ref>[https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.02.0137:book=4:chapter=28&highlight= Plin. Nat. 4.28]</ref> Maurer used Pliny to refer to the dialects spoken by the [[Franks]] and [[Chatti]] around the northwestern banks of the [[Rhine]], which were presumed to be descendants of the earlier Istvaeones.{{sfn|Maurer|1952}} The [[Weser]] is a river in Germany, east of and parallel to the Rhine. The terms ''Rhine–Weser'' or ''Weser–Rhine'', therefore, both describe the area between the two rivers as a meaningful cultural-linguistic region.


== Theory ==
== Theory ==
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Maurer asserted that the [[Cladistics|cladistic]] [[tree model]], ubiquitously used in 19th and early 20th century linguistics, was too inaccurate to describe the relation between the modern [[Germanic languages]], especially those belonging to its Western branch. Rather than depicting [[Old English]], [[Old Dutch]], [[Old Saxon]], [[Old Frisian]] and [[Old High German]] to have simply 'branched off' a single common 'Proto-West Germanic', he proposed that there had been much more distance between the languages and the dialects of the Germanic regions.<ref>Johannes Hoops, Heinrich Beck, Dieter Geuenich, [[Heiko Steuer]]: Reallexikon der germanischen Altertumskunde: Band 7; Walter de Gruyter, 1989, {{ISBN|9783110114454}} (pp 113–114).</ref>
Maurer asserted that the [[Cladistics|cladistic]] [[tree model]], ubiquitously used in 19th and early 20th century linguistics, was too inaccurate to describe the relation between the modern [[Germanic languages]], especially those belonging to its Western branch. Rather than depicting [[Old English]], [[Old Dutch]], [[Old Saxon]], [[Old Frisian]] and [[Old High German]] to have simply 'branched off' a single common 'Proto-West Germanic', he proposed that there had been much more distance between the languages and the dialects of the Germanic regions.<ref>Johannes Hoops, Heinrich Beck, Dieter Geuenich, [[Heiko Steuer]]: Reallexikon der germanischen Altertumskunde: Band 7; Walter de Gruyter, 1989, {{ISBN|9783110114454}} (pp 113–114).</ref>


Weser-Rhine Germanic seems to have been transitional between [[Elbe Germanic]] and [[North Sea Germanic]], with a few innovations of their own.<ref>{{cite book |last1=Orrin W. Robinson |author-link=Orrin W. Robinson (philologist)|title=Old English and its Closest Relatives: A Survey of the Earliest Germanic Languages |date=2003 |publisher=Routledge |isbn=1134849001 |pages=225–226}}</ref>
Weser–Rhine Germanic seems to have been transitional between [[Elbe Germanic]] and [[North Sea Germanic]], with a few innovations of their own.{{sfn|Robinson|2003|pages=225–226}}


== References ==
== References ==
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== Bibliography ==
== Bibliography ==
* Tacitus, ''[[wikisource:Germania|Germania]]'' (1st Century AD). (in Latin)
* Tacitus, ''[[wikisource:Germania|Germania]]'' (1st Century AD). (in Latin)
*{{cite book |last1=Beck |first1=Heinrich |editor1-last=Beck|editor1-first=Heinrich |editor2-last=Geuenich |editor2-first=Dieter |editor3-last=Steuer |editor3-first=Heiko |title=Reallexikon der Germanischen Altertumskunde |date=2003 |publisher=De Gruyter |location=Berlin |isbn=3-11-017163-5 |volume=24|pages=532–533|url=https://www.degruyter.com/database/GAO/entry/RGA_4417/html |access-date=26 March 2024 |chapter=Rhein-Weser-Germanen|doi=10.1515/9783110906141}}
* {{cite book |author=Gregory of Tours |author-link=Gregory of Tours |translator=Ernst Brehaut |editor-first=Paul |editor-last=Halsall |year=1997 |orig-year=1916 |title=History of the Franks: Books I–X (Extended Selections) |work=Medieval Sourcebook |publisher=Columbia University Press; Fordham University |url=http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/basis/gregory-hist.html }}
* {{cite book |last1=Henriksen |first1=Carol |last2=van der Auwera |first2=Johan |editor-last=van der Auwera |editor-first=Johan |editor-last2=König |editor-first2=Ekkehard |year=2013 |orig-year=First published 1994 |title=The Germanic Languages |chapter=1. The Germanic Languages |publisher=Routledge |location=London, New York |pages=1–18 |isbn=0-415-05768-X |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=DVBdAgAAQBAJ }}
* {{cite book |last1=Henriksen |first1=Carol |last2=van der Auwera |first2=Johan |editor-last=van der Auwera |editor-first=Johan |editor-last2=König |editor-first2=Ekkehard |year=2013 |orig-year=First published 1994 |title=The Germanic Languages |chapter=1. The Germanic Languages |publisher=Routledge |location=London, New York |pages=1–18 |isbn=978-0-415-05768-4 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=DVBdAgAAQBAJ }}
* {{cite book |first=Friedrich |last=Maurer |author-link=Friedrich Maurer (linguist) |title=Nordgermanen und Alemannen: Studien zur germanische und frühdeutschen Sprachgeschichte, Stammes- und Volkskunde |edition=3rd, revised, extended |location=Bern, Munich |publisher=Francke |year=1952| orig-year=First edition 1942| series=Bibliotheca Germanic, 3}}
* {{cite book |first=Friedrich |last=Maurer |author-link=Friedrich Maurer (linguist) |title=Nordgermanen und Alemannen: Studien zur germanische und frühdeutschen Sprachgeschichte, Stammes- und Volkskunde |edition=3rd, revised, extended |location=Bern, Munich |publisher=Francke |year=1952| orig-year=First edition 1942| series=Bibliotheca Germanica, 3}}
* {{cite book |first=Edward |last=James |author-link=Edward James (historian) |title=The Franks |series=The Peoples of Europe |location=Oxford, UK; Cambridge, Massachusetts |publisher=Basil Blackwell |year=1988 |isbn=0-631-17936-4 }}
* {{cite book |first=Edward |last=James |author-link=Edward James (historian) |title=The Franks |series=The Peoples of Europe |location=Oxford, UK; Cambridge, Massachusetts |publisher=Basil Blackwell |year=1988 |isbn=0-631-17936-4 }}


*{{cite book |last1=Robinson |first1=Orrin W. |author-link=Orrin W. Robinson (philologist)|title=Old English and its Closest Relatives: A Survey of the Earliest Germanic Languages |date=2003 |publisher=Routledge |isbn=1134849001}}
* {{cite book |last=Sonderegger |first=Stefan |title=Grundzüge deutscher Sprachgeschichte| volume=I|publisher=Walter de Gruyter |date=1979 |location=Berlin, New York|isbn=3-11-003570-7}}
* {{cite book |first=C. J. |last=Wells |title=German: A Linguistic History to 1945 |publisher=Oxford University Press |date=1987 |isbn=0-19-815809-2}}
==See also==
==See also==
*[[North Sea Germanic]]
*[[North Sea Germanic]]

Latest revision as of 14:38, 27 March 2024

Weser–Rhine Germanic
Rhine–Weser Germanic, Istvaeonic
Geographic
distribution
Around the Weser and Rhine rivers
Linguistic classificationIndo-European
Subdivisions
Glottologmacr1270
The distribution of the primary Germanic languages in Europe c. AD 1:
  North Sea Germanic, or Ingvaeonic
  Weser–Rhine Germanic, or Istvaeonic
  Elbe Germanic, or Irminonic

Weser–Rhine Germanic is a proposed group of prehistoric West Germanic dialects, which includes both Central German dialects and Low Franconian, the ancestor of Dutch.[1][2] The term was introduced by the German linguist Friedrich Maurer as a replacement for the older term Istvaeonic, with which it is essentially synonymous. The term RhineWeser Germanic is sometimes preferred.[3]

Nomenclature[edit]

The term Istvaeonic is derived from the Istvæones (or Istvaeones), a culturo-linguistic grouping of Germanic tribes, mentioned by Tacitus in his Germania.[4] Pliny the Elder further specified its meaning by claiming that the Istævones lived near the Rhine.[5] Maurer used Pliny to refer to the dialects spoken by the Franks and Chatti around the northwestern banks of the Rhine, which were presumed to be descendants of the earlier Istvaeones.[6] The Weser is a river in Germany, east of and parallel to the Rhine. The terms Rhine–Weser or Weser–Rhine, therefore, both describe the area between the two rivers as a meaningful cultural-linguistic region.

Theory[edit]

Maurer's classification of Germanic dialects

Maurer asserted that the cladistic tree model, ubiquitously used in 19th and early 20th century linguistics, was too inaccurate to describe the relation between the modern Germanic languages, especially those belonging to its Western branch. Rather than depicting Old English, Old Dutch, Old Saxon, Old Frisian and Old High German to have simply 'branched off' a single common 'Proto-West Germanic', he proposed that there had been much more distance between the languages and the dialects of the Germanic regions.[7]

Weser–Rhine Germanic seems to have been transitional between Elbe Germanic and North Sea Germanic, with a few innovations of their own.[8]

References[edit]

  1. ^ Wells 1987, p. 39, Fig. 3.
  2. ^ Sonderegger 1979, p. 71.
  3. ^ Henriksen & van der Auwera 2013, p. 9.
  4. ^ Tac. Ger. 2
  5. ^ Plin. Nat. 4.28
  6. ^ Maurer 1952.
  7. ^ Johannes Hoops, Heinrich Beck, Dieter Geuenich, Heiko Steuer: Reallexikon der germanischen Altertumskunde: Band 7; Walter de Gruyter, 1989, ISBN 9783110114454 (pp 113–114).
  8. ^ Robinson 2003, pp. 225–226.

Bibliography[edit]

  • Tacitus, Germania (1st Century AD). (in Latin)
  • Beck, Heinrich (2003). "Rhein-Weser-Germanen". In Beck, Heinrich; Geuenich, Dieter; Steuer, Heiko (eds.). Reallexikon der Germanischen Altertumskunde. Vol. 24. Berlin: De Gruyter. pp. 532–533. doi:10.1515/9783110906141. ISBN 3-11-017163-5. Retrieved 26 March 2024.
  • Henriksen, Carol; van der Auwera, Johan (2013) [First published 1994]. "1. The Germanic Languages". In van der Auwera, Johan; König, Ekkehard (eds.). The Germanic Languages. London, New York: Routledge. pp. 1–18. ISBN 978-0-415-05768-4.
  • Maurer, Friedrich (1952) [First edition 1942]. Nordgermanen und Alemannen: Studien zur germanische und frühdeutschen Sprachgeschichte, Stammes- und Volkskunde. Bibliotheca Germanica, 3 (3rd, revised, extended ed.). Bern, Munich: Francke.
  • James, Edward (1988). The Franks. The Peoples of Europe. Oxford, UK; Cambridge, Massachusetts: Basil Blackwell. ISBN 0-631-17936-4.
  • Robinson, Orrin W. (2003). Old English and its Closest Relatives: A Survey of the Earliest Germanic Languages. Routledge. ISBN 1134849001.
  • Sonderegger, Stefan (1979). Grundzüge deutscher Sprachgeschichte. Vol. I. Berlin, New York: Walter de Gruyter. ISBN 3-11-003570-7.
  • Wells, C. J. (1987). German: A Linguistic History to 1945. Oxford University Press. ISBN 0-19-815809-2.

See also[edit]