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I saw the situation developing at the article on the Battle of Zabadani. And I think we have to look at the time-frame and what the sources really do say. So I have carefully worded the article per the sources. First, I agree that it seems that a large part of the town is not under the control of the government, with the military only focusing on guarding government buildings in the town and the roads into and out of Zabadani. However, the sources are clear that the FSA itself doesn't have any control of Zabadani, with them holding positions outside the city (not being able to enter due to the checkpoints) while the ones who are actually on the streets of Zabadani are civilian opposition members who are organising the protests. Second, I do not agree the battle is ongoing because too much time has passed since the last phase. Three months, and the sources themselves state that battle ended with the military regaining control of Zabadani. So the event that the article covers is done. If there is a new event create a new article. However, as it seems, there is no actual ''battle'' for the city. The Army won the battle. Now it seems more of a situation where the military controls the critical points of the city, while they are letting the opposition protesters roam free on the streets. Again...three months, too much time has passed. All this now is for the aftermath section of the battle. [[User:EkoGraf|EkoGraf]] ([[User talk:EkoGraf|talk]]) 16:59, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
I saw the situation developing at the article on the Battle of Zabadani. And I think we have to look at the time-frame and what the sources really do say. So I have carefully worded the article per the sources. First, I agree that it seems that a large part of the town is not under the control of the government, with the military only focusing on guarding government buildings in the town and the roads into and out of Zabadani. However, the sources are clear that the FSA itself doesn't have any control of Zabadani, with them holding positions outside the city (not being able to enter due to the checkpoints) while the ones who are actually on the streets of Zabadani are civilian opposition members who are organising the protests. Second, I do not agree the battle is ongoing because too much time has passed since the last phase. Three months, and the sources themselves state that battle ended with the military regaining control of Zabadani. So the event that the article covers is done. If there is a new event create a new article. However, as it seems, there is no actual ''battle'' for the city. The Army won the battle. Now it seems more of a situation where the military controls the critical points of the city, while they are letting the opposition protesters roam free on the streets. Again...three months, too much time has passed. All this now is for the aftermath section of the battle. [[User:EkoGraf|EkoGraf]] ([[User talk:EkoGraf|talk]]) 16:59, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

:Sounds fine with me. I was just going along with the wording in the Economist that "much of the town is again under opposition control." From the sources it appears that the Syrian army has control of the entrances to the town, but does not control the town, perhaps because the army fears attacks if they station throughout the town, or perhaps because they are physically not able to. The Guardian source also appears to say that there's a truce or fragile peace in Zabadani with the civilian opposition in control of the town, and the armed opposition and loyalist forces stationed outside the town. But describing it as part of an aftermath section rather than a third phase is fine with me, since the exact details of what is happening in Zabadani is not clear. I think a more accurate heading or subheading for the last paragraph, however, would be either stalemate or truce as stated in the Economist and Guardian. [[User:Guest2625|Guest2625]] ([[User talk:Guest2625#top|talk]]) 00:29, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

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And Inshaat too. Jacob102699 (talk) 14:34, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[]

Sorry, I didn't create that map. I got it from the Voice of America website. The VOA is a US government organization so all the work they specifically create is in the public domain. If I have time I might be able to use Adobe photoshop and shade in additional neighborhoods although it's not a top priority. I'm also not that sure how beneficial it's to shade in more neighborhoods, because it's starting to sound like most the neighborhoods in Homs are being bombarded.--Guest2625 (talk) 04:41, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[]

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Sorry for the major edit mess ups on idlib governorate. The page must be messed up, because it only happens on that page to me. It keeps saying Wikimedia Error and I have to reload while editing. Maybe the server is down on this page. Jacob102699 (talk) 15:29, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[]

No problem. It sucks when the editor/server messes up. I've lost a bunch of work that way.--Guest2625 (talk) 04:44, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[]

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Battle of Zabadani

I saw the situation developing at the article on the Battle of Zabadani. And I think we have to look at the time-frame and what the sources really do say. So I have carefully worded the article per the sources. First, I agree that it seems that a large part of the town is not under the control of the government, with the military only focusing on guarding government buildings in the town and the roads into and out of Zabadani. However, the sources are clear that the FSA itself doesn't have any control of Zabadani, with them holding positions outside the city (not being able to enter due to the checkpoints) while the ones who are actually on the streets of Zabadani are civilian opposition members who are organising the protests. Second, I do not agree the battle is ongoing because too much time has passed since the last phase. Three months, and the sources themselves state that battle ended with the military regaining control of Zabadani. So the event that the article covers is done. If there is a new event create a new article. However, as it seems, there is no actual battle for the city. The Army won the battle. Now it seems more of a situation where the military controls the critical points of the city, while they are letting the opposition protesters roam free on the streets. Again...three months, too much time has passed. All this now is for the aftermath section of the battle. EkoGraf (talk) 16:59, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[]

Sounds fine with me. I was just going along with the wording in the Economist that "much of the town is again under opposition control." From the sources it appears that the Syrian army has control of the entrances to the town, but does not control the town, perhaps because the army fears attacks if they station throughout the town, or perhaps because they are physically not able to. The Guardian source also appears to say that there's a truce or fragile peace in Zabadani with the civilian opposition in control of the town, and the armed opposition and loyalist forces stationed outside the town. But describing it as part of an aftermath section rather than a third phase is fine with me, since the exact details of what is happening in Zabadani is not clear. I think a more accurate heading or subheading for the last paragraph, however, would be either stalemate or truce as stated in the Economist and Guardian. Guest2625 (talk) 00:29, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[]