User talk:Pangurban1

May 2011

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively.

In particular, the three-revert rule states that:

1. Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. 4 reverts by one editor is the definition of an edit war. Please do not keep reverting or you too will be blocked. At the edit-warring noticeboard, by the way, please format it correctly or it will be rejected. Jasper Deng (talk) 00:02, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Talk:Los_Angeles_Unified_School_District, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Specificially [[1]] Gerardw (talk) 01:35, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Not sure what you're talking about. I haven't edited or deleted anyone's comments. Thanks. Pangurban1 (talk) 17:27, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

The "1" next to specifically is what we can a WP:DIFF, more explictly: history diff of comment revertingGerardw (talk) 17:32, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

I didn't delete it. Or if I did, it wasn't done knowingly. Pangurban1 (talk) 17:58, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Probably hit a wrong button, then. No big deal. Gerardw (talk) 18:02, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your contributions. One of the core policies of Wikipedia is that articles should always be written from a neutral point of view. Please remember to observe this important core policy. Thank you. Jasper Deng (talk) 01:45, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Hello Pangurban1. If you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:

1. editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
2. participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors; and
3. linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam).

Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. Jasper Deng (talk) 01:45, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your concern. I am a library user. Is that a conflict of interest?Pangurban1 (talk) 17:19, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Depends on how much you interact with it.Jasper Deng (talk) 19:29, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

ip editing?

are you editing as 207.233.79.82? If you forgot to log in, that's okay, it happens sometimes. You'll just want to sign your IP edited statements with your username. Gerardw (talk) 16:28, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

No, but I've invited others at my school to read and comment. Pangurban1 (talk) 20:19, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

I see. Well, there's a policy on that, too. (There are lots of policies here. Editors aren't expected to know them all when you get started, so no one minds the first time or too an editor inadvertently breaks them.) Gerardw (talk) 20:35, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Interesting. Well, I didn't ask them to agree with my opinion. Just to comment based on what there is out of their own free will. Pangurban1 (talk) 20:56, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Policies

When we revert your edits, we do so for a reason, and not just WP:Verifiability. Your additions violate WP:Neutral point of view regardless of where they came from, don't have appropriate WP:TONE, and bring undue weight to a mostly non-notable point of view. Please spend time and read these.Jasper Deng (talk) 19:36, 24 May 2011 (UTC)'

Already read them. The reasons you have given are not justifiable. When a piece says "according to" someone, and then cites what that someone has said, it has nothing to do with point of view. If you are not familiar with the conventions of academic writing, I recommend visiting a local library. Thank you Pangurban1 (talk) 20:16, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

(PS it isn't accepted to say "Thank you" at the end of each of your comments). Yes, I'm justified. You don't seem to be getting WP:UNDUE and WP:TONE. The tone is not neutral.Jasper Deng (talk) 23:21, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Neither of them applies since it wan not biases and it had a neutral tone. But you can keep telling yourself you're justified if it helps. Thank you Pangurban1 (talk) 02:24, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Both apply clearly. If you can't see that it connotates a non-neutral point of view in its tone, it's not my problem. The sentences could've easily been taken out of a PR release. It still means the sentences will stay out of the article since you cannot prove to me that they don't connotate a biased point of view. This point of view is not very notable compared to what this article is actually about. It would belong better on an article about the budget crisis of California affecting schools. You're not listening.Jasper Deng (talk) 04:37, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

(Personal attack removed)Pangurban1 (talk) 14:58, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I am extremely good at tone connotations. If you don't understand our policies, it's not our problem - your sentences will stay out of the article because they violate our policies. The consensus is mainly for my position on this. You show no understanding of WP:UNDUE and WP:NPOV, as well as WP:TONE.Jasper Deng (talk) 17:34, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

(Personal attack removed) Pangurban1 (talk) 15:01, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Yet another standard we have here is simply expressed as comment on the content not the contributor. Statements like "take writing classes...community college..." are not appropriate here. Gerardw (talk) 23:06, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

(Personal attack removed) Pangurban1 (talk) 15:01, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Your recent edits

Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You could also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 20:33, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on other people again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. You will be blocked if you do not stop attacking me and other editors. Jasper Deng (talk) 19:09, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Canvassing

I saw an IP commenting on Talk:Los Angeles Unified School District. This IP seems to have shared the same point of view as you. Please do not ask others to come to Wikipedia to support your own point of view.Jasper Deng (talk) 05:52, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

ANI

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Gerardw (talk) 11:41, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

• Pangurban1, I am proposing that the thread at ANI about your behavior be closed, since you have received a final warning and since then haven't insulted any editors here. But let me tell you in no uncertain terms: joking with editors' names, yelling about their writing skills, and generally insulting those who disagree with you will get you blocked. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 13:03, 27 May 2011 (UTC)